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If you have been pardoned, then you can't plead the 5th


               
2024 Dec 6, 4:42am   361 views  9 comments

by Tenpoundbass   follow (10)  

And since Hunter has been pardoned for any crime going back to 2014, that means he can be compelled to answer any question on any crime going back to 2014. I hope Trump does pardon Cheney, the Clintons, Obama Schiff and Rosenstein. They will have to testify against the rest of the Swamp and go into elaborate details, and can not hide behind "on going investigation".

Trump's DOJ will probably have better luck hanging them all on process crimes for lying under oath.
That Matt Geatz will be one hell of a Mueller/Smith style unbridled special prosecutor.



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3   HeadSet   2024 Dec 6, 7:31am  

Tenpoundbass says

And since Hunter has been pardoned for any crime going back to 2014, that means he can be compelled to answer any question on any crime going back to 2014.

Not so, as Hunter can claim the 5th to protect himself against any state charges.
4   MolotovCocktail   2024 Dec 6, 7:38am  

He'll just defy the subpoenas as he did before.

And again, our pussified/corrupt GOP leaders in Congress won't defer it for prosecution.
6   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 20, 9:27am  

HeadSet says

Not so, as Hunter can claim the 5th to protect himself against any state charges.


That wont matter, he/they could still be prosecuted, the 5th wont protect them from documented facts no matter how tight lipped they are.
Remember every crime has been shielded from any real scrutiny, Judges and Prosecutors has used creative ways to avoid them. Saying they lacked legal standing. So it really depends on who is willing to give those cases legal standing. The establishment knew full well none of their crimes would stand up to even the documented evidence, even if the defendants were absent in the courtroom to defend themselves.
Those facts and discoveries will drag the employees and aides that facilitated those crimes, and will make them accomplices. They weren't pardoned, and need to be removed from DC before the 2028 election.
7   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 20, 9:29am  

The stonewalling happens behind the veil of "I can't answer to that there's an ongoing investigation"

All of that has been removed, they will be compelled to answer the questions. More over since they are pardoned, they can't plead the 5th, or they can be locked up for contempt. Like I said, they risk going to prison for process crimes and perjury, they are not shielded from the legal process, just prisons.
8   Misc   2025 Jan 20, 10:48am  

Of course, the POS can claim the 5th. Since the criminals can be charged by the States for crimes they committed, they can take the 5th so as to not incriminate themselves.
9   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 20, 11:31am  

You can't plead the 5th because there's nothing that can incriminate you. Your Civil Liberties are not in peril. You're obliged to answer truthfully.
Normally Presidents pardon individuals, they wont touch a member or members of a conspirator group. Because it opens them up to being forthcoming about their non pardoned coconspirators. They'll be fine as long as they stick with pleading the 5th, so they don't normally get pardoned.

These pardons will be disputed on many levels, besides the viability of still prosecuting them. I think there will be serious challenges to pardoning people with a blanket pardon for possible crimes that were six years before he was even President.

He can pardon individuals incarcerated now, or even have an active case going through the system for crimes committed before he was president. But there's no way in hell a sitting President can hand someone a generic non specific "Get Out of Jail Free" card,

Then the nuclear option will be investigating just how brain dead Biden was, and who was actually issuing EOs and releasing press releases that wasn't actually Joe Biden's own cognitive actions. Once that's discovered, then it voids much of his presidency, especially combined with the proof that will come out about how corrupt and fraudulent the 2020 elections were.

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