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RFK Jr. announces he's running as an independent.


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2023 Sep 30, 10:35am   5,280 views  137 comments

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I bet DeSantis does the same thing just to level the vote shaving playing field. But I'll go one further, I bet it was DeSantis' plan all along if his failing campaign doesn't turn around by November, he'll run as Independent.

I don't think DeSantis will make a dent in either parties numbers. But I wonder what the Left/Right leaning Independent voters ratio will be that vote for RFK Jr in the general election.
If you ignore all else and just look at the D next to his name. You would assume that all of the voters he would shave off any numbers, it would be the Democrats that felt it the most. But I'm not sure, RFK Jr. is more Conservative and more Patriotic than anyone besides Trump on the Republican ticket.
People who are fed up or worn down with the Trump hysteria, might opt to vote Independent for RFK Jr.
Of course we all know, that without a Party representation and saturation in every voting district in America to make sure the Indy votes don't get shit canned, or (Cured) changed to a Democrat vote. Then no Independent or 3rd party will ever stand a chance. Especially not in this era of compromised complicit Judges that tells real victims they have no legal standing, while actively persecuting any and all that brings Voter Fraud to the light.

RFK Jr. could get 75% of the actual vote, but on election day they would say he barely got 5% of the vote. While the losing party wring their hands, blaming him for their loss.

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89   richwicks   2024 Feb 26, 4:15am  

WookieMan says


My timeline might be off as I don't like to make predictions, but end of 2025-2027 EV owners will get hammered. Financially it will be even worse than it already is to own one.


I think the EV phase is dying off, it was a minor mania. Now that enough people have bought them, there's enough word of mouth with people saying "don't make this mistake..".

The cost of the car offsets the cost of fuel and once that battery is dead, the car has to be replaced. You're not going to see a Tesla built in 2015 on the road in 2035. Well you might, but it will be as rare as seeing a 1960's car on the road. When the battery needs to be replaced, that's the entire car and the technology is going to be changing. You won't be able to buy a compatible battery easily in 10 years. A car from 1950 still runs on gasoline, and the battery is the same as it was in 1950.

An old car, you can take apart, refurbish the engine, even build engine parts. No normal person is going to be able to build a lithium ion battery, even an exceptional person. You can't service a battery. It's like servicing a computer chip, fortunately, computer chips last forever.
90   WookieMan   2024 Feb 26, 7:24am  

richwicks says

An old car, you can take apart, refurbish the engine, even build engine parts. No normal person is going to be able to build a lithium ion battery, even an exceptional person. You can't service a battery. It's like servicing a computer chip, fortunately, computer chips last forever.

Solyndra or whatever the name was. EV's aren't and can't be the future. No grid/power supply to handle the charging with any incremental increase in charging. Solar won't help, reliant on the sun. So how do these get charged if nukes are bad, coal is bad, and I've even heard nat gas plants are bad. How the F do you power these things with even another 20% increase? You can't.
91   HeadSet   2024 Feb 26, 9:12am  

richwicks says

A car from 1950 still runs on gasoline, and the battery is the same as it was in 1950.

Your main point is valid, but a slight correction here - the 1950 cars had 6-volt batteries and electrical systems, and some required leaded fuel.

richwicks says

You won't be able to buy a compatible battery easily in 10 years.

Maybe, it depends on the price. If someone develops tech for a cheaper battery then they will surely make it compatible with a market of many thousands of used Teslas. Sorta like how one can convert a 1950 car to a 12 volt system and do fuel additives to replace the lead.
92   HeadSet   2024 Feb 26, 9:15am  

WookieMan says

How the F do you power these things with even another 20% increase? You can't.

That is the rub, not the individual car tech. I believe the plan for those who want 100% EV is to get the public off the road.
93   Patrick   2024 Feb 28, 1:27pm  

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/super-pac-backing-rfk-jr-secures-enough-signatures-get-him-georgia-and


Robert F. Kennedy Jr. secures enough signatures to get on Georgia and Arizona ballots
94   HeadSet   2024 Feb 28, 2:22pm  

Patrick says

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. secures enough signatures to get on Georgia and Arizona ballots

That may not be the good news you think it is. Odd that those are two of the states with the targeted 2020 voter fraud. Only now with RFK in the race, the fraudsters have the additional tool of "dominioning" votes from Trump to RFK. Then they have to do less of a vote dump to bring Biden to win in a plurality.
95   richwicks   2024 Feb 28, 6:34pm  

HeadSet says

Your main point is valid, but a slight correction here - the 1950 cars had 6-volt batteries and electrical systems, and some required leaded fuel.


You can still get leaded fuel, as an additive. I'm glad that shit is gone.

HeadSet says

Maybe, it depends on the price. If someone develops tech for a cheaper battery then they will surely make it compatible with a market of many thousands of used Teslas. Sorta like how one can convert a 1950 car to a 12 volt system and do fuel additives to replace the lead.


I doubt it. The cost of the battery is the materials, there's very little markup and they depend on scale of economics. The batteries are part of the structural integrity of the car as well, they are are designed differently for each vehicle. 1/2 of the cost of an EV is the battery. When an EV needs a new battery, it doesn't get one, it goes to the landfill. We aren't going to get increased energy density, we're there now, we might get different technology and different materials, but there's never going to be a battery that comes out that has twice the energy and 1/2 the size or 1/2 the weight.

Converting a 1950's car to a 12 volt system is quite trivial, you just have a DC to DC converter. Stepping down is really easy from a high to low voltage, stepping up though requires a bit more complexity. From 12 to 6, it's just pulse width modulated. You connect the battery for a split second, and when it goes over 6 V on the output, you disconnect it. You use a capacitor to smooth out the signal, and you end up with a tiny ripple at 6V. This is common in modern electronics. We could make devices where you could plug in anything from 5v to 30v DC and take in the energy but it would add to the cost of the device, so... If a phone costs $199 versus $200, that's a big deal because people won't buy as many at $200 as they do at $199. People are stupid.
96   Patrick   2024 Mar 6, 10:48am  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/magas-next-obstacle-rfk-jr


The majority of MAGA have written off RFK Jr. as irrelevant, but he is polling anywhere from 9-14%, with Trump and Biden neck and neck.

Trump’s new slogan is “Too Big To Rig”. If we intend to outvote the steal, we are going to need all the help we can get. There is no room for error. ...

RFK Jr. also pulls 1% more from Trump voters than he does Biden voters. That’s 1% we cannot afford to be missing out on, with the fate of humanity on the line.

If Kennedy were to drop out entirely, that would give Trump an approximate net 1% boost against Biden. If Kennedy were to drop out and endorse Trump, we could see an even bigger bump. But if Trump were to offer Kennedy his VP seat, we would be able to bring over a substantial chunk of that 9-14%, and create a significant gap between the Trump/Kennedy ticket and the Deep State ticket.

As things stand now, Kennedy’s presence in the race is detrimental to Trump’s chances, meaning he is technically aiding Biden and the Deep State. And if the Dems switch Biden out for a better candidate, all the sudden Trump is in real trouble.

The only logical conclusion is for these men to align, unite under one banner, and ensure the Deep State do NOT win in November. We have to create a ticket that is TOO BIG TO RIG!

There’s only one way to make that happen.


I'd love to see Kennedy as Trump's VP pick, but it seems impossible, because they are such different personalities, and presidents traditionally pick comically incompetent VP's so as not to have any threat to their own power.
97   HeadSet   2024 Mar 6, 11:43am  

Patrick says

I'd love to see Kennedy as Trump's VP pick,

A better cross party pick would be Tulsi Gabbard.
100   Tenpoundbass   2024 Mar 8, 8:40pm  

I would imagine Jeffery Epstein was perceived as a mover and shaker and someone to know if you weren't privy to his darker endeavors.
I wouldn't think Jeffery was on every corner saying "psst! Hey old dude! Wanna buy some Kids?" I bet 80% of the people on the list, were just duped stooges, promised a goodtime party, to sell influence for the mark or client he was procuring compromising options for. The rest of the guest might have not even known what was going on in the blue and white temple thingy. Or where ever they did the sick shit. But having those other people on the island made it all seem organic rather than just a honey pot kiddie brothel. He probably had Mr. Rodgers there.
102   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 3:21am  

Patrick says

I'd love to see Kennedy as Trump's VP pick, but it seems impossible, because they are such different personalities, and presidents traditionally pick comically incompetent VP's so as not to have any threat to their own power.

He can't talk. It's grinding when he does. Polling is bull shit anyway. My wife is not political at the federal level. If she heard him talk she'd be like is that a talking rat? Or is he dying? She's 100% Trump and RFK Jr. wouldn't get her vote or Biden. I'm Trump.

I need to talk to my one neighbors that are college professors. I don't want to get into an argument with them, but have a slight feeling even they are turning on Biden. One is the village President the other is on the school board. I'm on my board, so politics do come out when we hang out and they're 2 houses away.

I don't think the DNC really knows how bad this is. I think Vivek would be the best choice. This idea that Vivek would upstage Trump would actually be good. Trump can pick his battles and focus on what needs to be done. He'll be a lame duck POTUS anyway. Have him fight the minor shit Trump doesn't want to deal with. He was literally campaigning for Trump the whole time. He's well spoken and a business owner. Really think about Kamala? She got a law degree because she was a minority. She's not intelligent.

That's what's great about a 2nd term POTUS, your VP pick can be aggressive and it's no biggie. Trump will work until he's dead, but he does know he has to hand this off to someone of like mind. He's learned the game. Vivek took lessons from Trump. He's young. The only thing is if Trump's son Don Jr. eventually wants to run and he picks another vanilla VP like Pence.
104   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 11:40am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/in-the-mud-monday-march-25-2024-c


The Hill ran an op-ed yesterday asking the obvious question, “Why are the Democrats suddenly so petrified of RFK Jr.?” Probably because polls show Kennedy is peeling off more disaffected democrats than disaffected Republicans. ...

The gist of the article was that the trouble seems to be with younger voters, a staple low-information democrat constituency. ...

Who doesn’t like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.? Trump supporters might not vote for the independent democrat, but they admire his courageous stance against biomedical tyranny. Blue-leaning independents, though, who can’t stomach Trump, but hate Biden, find a candidate to love in RFK.

In other words, an independent-running Kennedy is the dream candidate for a lot of left-leaning independents.

Cowardly Joe Biden won’t debate RFK, but he’ll sure slander the anti-vaccine campaigner behind the scenes.
105   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 11:41am  

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4550916-why-are-the-democrats-suddenly-so-petrified-of-rfk-jr/


Because he has been essentially blackballed by much of the mainstream media, Kennedy and his team have engaged in a powerful “get out the message” guerilla warfare media campaign by appearing on many of the most popular podcasts in the nation. Be it Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson, the Chief Nerd or others, Kennedy — and his collective message — is now regularly being received by millions of Americans every week.

Keep in mind that the combined viewership of the broadcast network evening news programs averages about 18 million. Rogan’s podcast alone has surpassed 50 million streams multiple times, and Carlson’s as well. Kennedy has the potential to dwarf the viewership of the mainstream media while pounding home a message that seems to speak to many.

Team Biden and the DNC realize that the president seems to be losing more ground by the week. More than that, they also understand that presidential elections are won by shaving an eighth of a percent off of one district, a quarter of a percent off of one county and half of a percent off of one major city. To them, Kennedy’s razor surely appears to be getting larger and sharper by the day.
106   HeadSet   2024 Mar 25, 12:11pm  

Why are the Democrats suddenly so petrified of RFK Jr.?

That "petrified" is an act. Running the 2020 playbook of stealing votes through Dominion and late night vote dumps to make Biden an even more popular candidate than last time will be a tough sell. However, fixing an actual 55% Trump with 40% Biden and 5% RFK into a Dominion and Dump altered 40% Trump with 45% Biden and 15% RFK lets Biden win with a more believable plurality.
107   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 26, 1:24pm  

It's now official: RFK is gonna take waaay more votes from Biden than he is from Trump. Especially in the Bay Area.

She's a Kamala Harris with a brain and command if sentence structure.


109   HeadSet   2024 Mar 26, 6:00pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

It's now official: RFK is gonna take waaay more votes from Biden than he is from Trump.



110   HeadSet   2024 Mar 26, 6:02pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

She's a Kamala Harris with a brain and command if sentence structure.

Ironic that you have a typo in that sentence! ("if" instead of "of").
111   Patrick   2024 Mar 26, 8:00pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

It's now official: RFK is gonna take waaay more votes from Biden than he is from Trump. Especially in the Bay Area.

She's a Kamala Harris with a brain and command if sentence structure.


Yes, I think RFK got some wonderful blow jobs from Nicole.

His credibility is completely gone now, and he will indeed pull many more votes from Biden than from Trump after this exceptionally poor choice in running mate.
113   WookieMan   2024 Mar 28, 2:55pm  

Patrick says

Yes, I think RFK got some wonderful blow jobs from Nicole.

His credibility is completely gone now, and he will indeed pull many more votes from Biden than from Trump after this exceptionally poor choice in running mate.

Core Trump supporters were never gonna support RFK. He can't speak without you wanting to kill yourself. It's like someone sanding your skin. I think RFK and Vivek were plants by the Trump campaign. This is his 2nd rodeo. Outside of a bull shit conviction, Trump will be POTUS again. I'm nearing 90% confidence on that.

We have little to no domestic policy. I don't care about Russia/Ukraine. I don't care about Isreal/Palestine. This is the same outlook everyone I talk to says. Fuck 'em. How about stop the wars in Chicago, Baltimore, LA and other cities. Bring back manufacturing jobs so blacks have something else to do besides kill each other.

We need to unite this entire hemisphere and tell the rest of the world to fuck off. We have what we need in abundance resource wise. WWII is almost a century ago. Let it go...
114   richwicks   2024 Mar 28, 3:55pm  

WookieMan says

Core Trump supporters were never gonna support RFK. He can't speak without you wanting to kill yourself. It's like someone sanding your skin.


This is the man's version of "he's not handsome enough".

Be less superificial.
117   stereotomy   2024 Apr 2, 6:06pm  

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1774957541203533902




Not true. John Adams and the Federalists passed the Alien and Sedition Act in 1798 to block the rise of Jefferson's Democratic party.

This has all happened before, and it will happen again . . .
118   AD   2024 Apr 2, 6:14pm  

richwicks says

This is the man's version of "he's not handsome enough".

Be less superificial.


Media like Frank Luntz says RFK Jr more of a threat to Democrats based on his policies like government regulations and taxes as RFK Jr has proposed crypto currency taxes. Also to a minor extent his VP pick is major BLM and AntiFa supporter. Seems like more of a Green Party ticket than a Ross Perot 1992 ticket.
119   richwicks   2024 Apr 2, 8:16pm  

AD says

Also to a minor extent his VP pick is major BLM and AntiFa supporter. Seems like more of a Green Party ticket than a Ross Perot 1992 ticket.


I agree. I don't think RFK will get very far, and his VP pick is pretty abysmal.

I don't think RFK is a very serious candidate anyhow. Political dynasties are shunned rather than embraced. Liz Cheney is out, the Bush family is done, the Clintons are done, and I think the Kennedys are done.

I only think RFK is correct about better review of vaccinations, that is literally the only issue he has that I can think of. That's not going to be allowed, I think that it's up to parents to protect their children and do the research. This pandemic brought a lot of people sitting on the fence about forced vaccination to wake up. I never worried about it, until they pushed out the mRNA vaccine which OBVIOUSLY doesn't work, throwing into question everything else. Today if I were to have kids, I'd be looking for a way to get around most vaccinations including bribery.
120   Patrick   2024 Apr 3, 12:23pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/rfk-jr-doubles-down-biden-genuine-threat-our-democracy-much-worse-trump/


Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doubled down Tuesday on his warning that Democrat President Joe Biden “is a genuine threat to our democracy.”

Citing the current administration’s efforts to censor the political speech of the American people online, Kennedy declared that Biden is “much worse” than President Donald Trump.

After making similar comments on Monday, RFK Jr. doubled down on the remarks during a Tuesday appearance on “Fox & Friends.”

“President Biden has done something that no other president in history has done, which is to order media, particularly social media, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Google to censor his political opponents,” the independent presidential candidate said on the Fox News show.
121   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 3, 10:16pm  

They'll gun his ass down on TV just like they did to his daddy and uncle...then proclaim that the shooter is a white supremacist MAGA supporter.

Change My Mind
122   Tenpoundbass   2024 Apr 4, 7:28am  

richwicks says

I don't think RFK is a very serious candidate anyhow. Political dynasties are shunned rather than embraced. Liz Cheney is out, the Bush family is done, the Clintons are done, and I think the Kennedys are done.


He stood a real chance at one time. Had he ran on a JFK revival platform. I think he would have given Trump a serious run for his money.
But he would have had to come out bashing all of the commies and Lefties and been branded another meanie like Trump, to have been authentic.
JFK was no fan of the rabid Progressives and radical Socialists. RFK seems to be a closet Proggy.
123   Tenpoundbass   2024 Apr 4, 7:34am  

The Curious thing about RFK Jr. he is not trying very hard to court the Democrat voters, that feel they have to vote for Commies and Freaks because of the D by their name. I mean he's there for them for an alternative. But he is not making any serious attacks on the Left. Other than crying that Joe Biden wont give him Secret Service protection. Something awfully screwy going on there. But then again he's not attacking Trump and courting his supporters either.

Might the Democrats use his candidacy as somewhere to put the extra Trump voters when they flip their votes, so that it wont be so blaringly obvious this time around? They wont need to remove the votes from Trump and give them all to Biden, they can just shave them off Trump and put them on RFK(But not enough to win).
124   WookieMan   2024 Apr 4, 8:08am  

richwicks says

WookieMan says


Core Trump supporters were never gonna support RFK. He can't speak without you wanting to kill yourself. It's like someone sanding your skin.


This is the man's version of "he's not handsome enough".

Be less superificial.

You seriously don't get the point? Assuming a miracle happened. This would be the leader of our country? He can't fucking talk dude.... He sounds like he had a bowl of sand for breakfast. I get it's a disease or ailment, but I don't care. We already have a demented retard leading our country. You want to double down?

Trump says some dumb stuff, but he can speak. I swear you're anti-American at this point. Just admit it.
125   richwicks   2024 Apr 4, 8:16am  

WookieMan says


You seriously don't get the point? Assuming a miracle happened. This would be the leader of our country? He can't fucking talk dude....


For fucks sake, we have a figurehead now who is fucking out of his mind in senility, who can't read cue cards. Who gives a shit if RFK can talk at all, can he GOVERN?

I am fucking sick and tired of fucking puppets being "president". I'm fucking tired of people not realizing they are puppets.

WookieMan says

I swear you're anti-American at this point. Just admit it.


If you actually think this, you're one stupid nitwit.
126   HeadSet   2024 Apr 4, 1:47pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Might the Democrats use his candidacy as somewhere to put the extra Trump voters when they flip their votes, so that it wont be so blaringly obvious this time around? They wont need to remove the votes from Trump and give them all to Biden, they can just shave them off Trump and put them on RFK(But not enough to win).

That is what I have been saying - RFK will be a bucket for fraudulent Dominion votes transfers from Trump so that Biden will win in a plurality in the swing states.
127   Patrick   2024 Apr 15, 8:11pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/rfk-jr-qualifies-iowa-ballot-holding-special-one-day-state-convention/


RFK Jr Qualifies for Iowa Ballot after Special ‘One-Day Blitz’ in State
128   Patrick   2024 Apr 17, 1:25pm  

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/the-pros-and-cons-of-bobby-kennedy


The Pros and Cons of Bobby Kennedy, Jr.

For most of my life, I didn’t pay much attention to Kennedy. My thought was probably that he was a run-of-the-mill liberal environmentalist whose ideas definitely ran counter to my own.

Kennedy popped up on my radar when he became the world’s most influential voice, theorizing that childhood vaccines, very possibly, are related to the massive increase in children diagnosed on the autism spectrum.

Back then, I thought every child should get every vaccine recommended by the Science and Health Establishment. It never occurred to me that some vaccines might cause serious adverse events and perhaps aren’t even necessary.

Still, I couldn’t help but admire a man who went against conventional wisdom in such a conspicuous way. I also knew this position cost him his exalted position in the liberal and mainstream media establishment.

To me, it’s incredibly easy to support the “Current Thing.” However, it takes genuine courage to advocate for a position one must know is going to cause him to lose many friends and social status (not to mention income potential).

I definitely became a Kennedy admirer
when I read The Real Anthony Fauci
In reading this book, my mouth hit the floor on almost every page. I couldn’t believe a person as prominent as Kennedy was attacking (and debunking) a person as prominent and widely admired as “Science himself,” Anthony Fauci.

As I quickly learned, this book was not just a scathing critique of Fauci and the disastrous Covid response, it was actually an indictment of the entire corrupt Science/Medical Complex.

It’s rare when one book can change your entire outlook on large swaths of the world hierarchy, but this book did. Not only did I read the book, I wrote a book review for my new Substack newsletter where I called it “perhaps the most important non-fiction book of my lifetime.”

For me, the book connected many dots and made me realize the capture of medicine and Big Pharma traces back to the creation of the Rockefeller Foundation and the birth of the world-changing “pill-for-every-ill” movement.

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