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Western Wonder Weapons Too Fragile for Ukrainian Battlefield
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2022 Nov 30, 11:09am 4,913 views 73 comments
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UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Jan 18, 8:35am
UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Jan 18, 8:35am
RWSGFY says
Why are you hiding the source?
That thing was touted as a wunderwaffe by the littke bellend, but is completely defeated by fragile, overhyped and obsolete Patriot.
Why are you hiding the source?
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RWSGFY
2024 Jan 18, 9:21am
Fun to read couple of days after the only AWACS kill in the history of the world. Alllegedly by Patriot SAM. I don't think he meant "death trap" in this sense though.
RWSGFY
2024 Jan 18, 9:21am
Fun to read couple of days after the only AWACS kill in the history of the world. Alllegedly by Patriot SAM. I don't think he meant "death trap" in this sense though.
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And the truth is: You don't take Western artillery pieces to a...um, an actual artillery fight, apparenrly. High tech don't mean shit if it has a premature ejaculation problem.
In the artillery-heavy intensive warfare conditions of the east Ukrainian battlefield, hi-tech Western artillery pieces are being called on to fire hundreds of shells each a day and are simply not up to the conditions or the task, not tough enough, breaking down quickly due to wear and tear.
The commander of the logistics service of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Brigadier General Volodymyr Karpenko, complains that these Western weapons “constantly break down and require repair.”
The US-made M777 Howitzers which have become the mainstay of the Kiev regime’s military forces are quickly “blooming” under intense firing rates, which is to say the front of the artillery barrel explodes and fray’s back, looking much like a precious flower.
The M777s are largely made of titanium instead of steel, theoretically making them lighter and quickly mobile for shoot & scoot after firing, but aren’t proving durable as a result.
According to Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Defense Denis Sharapov one out of every 3 M777s have to be taken away for repair after the very first artillery duel.
US defense officials admit as much, reporting that a third of the roughly 350 Western-made howitzers are out of action at any given time.
Likewise; 1 out of 3 of the 22 vaunted German Panzerhaubitze 2000’s provided to the Kiev regime are also reported by German military officials as in need of repair after just a month of battlefield use. Seems they can’t take firing more than a hundred shells a day.
Similar problems are being reported with the US’s M109 artillery pieces, the Italian FH70, and the French
Broken and failing Western weapons need to be transported all the way across Ukraine to Western repair centers set up in Poland, Slovakia, and Germany – repaired if possible – and then make the return journey back to the front, under Russian fire, taking many months.
Jack Watling of the Royal Institute of Armaments in London notes that “The current approach, where each country transfers batteries in parts, is quickly becoming a logistical nightmare for Ukrainian forces, as each battery requires a separate training, support and logistics system“.
These hi-tech Western wonder weapons are just too fragile and precious, too logistically demanding, to hang in the high-intensity conflict in Ukraine.
What happens when an artillery barrel 'blooms':
https://frontierindia.com/m777-howitzers-constantly-break-down-and-require-repair-says-ukraine/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/25/us/ukraine-artillery-breakdown.html
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-how-to-repair-the-ukrainian-armys-modern-weapons/a-63215373
https://vpk.name/en/610446_deputy-minister-of-defense-of-ukraine-every-third-m777-howitzer-has-to-be-taken-away-for-repair-after-the-first-artillery-duel.html
https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/deutschland/ukraine-panzerhaubitze-2000-mit-verschleisserscheinungen-a-e0a3bc00-5e4b-40fa-821a-c2d158079133?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/deutschland/ukraine-panzerhaubitzen-2000-wegen-ersatzteilmangels-ausser-gefecht-a-a9056b03-3c01-40cb-b495-611817741b21?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/2022/09/21/m777-barrels-in-ukraine-bloom-they-will-be-repaired-abroad/
https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/western-wonder-weapons-too-fragile