patrick.net

https://t.me/greatreject/31379?source=patrick.net

Putin does have a point that the US just flagrantly lied about "weapons of mass destruction" to justify the invasion of Iraq after a bunch of Saudis attacked the US on 9/11.

Russia does have a legitimate security concern about NATO expanding to its border, but the US had no legitimate concern about Iraq threatening it.

Patrick says

Sounds believable, but then why did Biden lift sanctions on Nordstream 2?

He did with a caveat: if Russia messed with Ukraine at all, the pipeline was to be immediately canceled. And when Russia decided to “recognize” two breakaway pieces of Ukraine as sovereign states, Biden invoked that clause and cancelled the pipeline. Putin invaded the next day.
Are the events linked? Sure seems that way. I think this could all be over at once if Nordstream 2 was allowed to operate.

Eric Holder says

This justifies dropping ballistic missiles on million+ cities?

Are there?

We'll see the damage in a few months.

Go pull up a map of Ukraine today, and record the street views on a few dozen places. Revisit in a year.

I noticed that Libya and Syria's street views have all but disappeared on google maps.

Bd6r says

The only ones who need to negotiate are stupid Europeans who will freeze without Russian gas,

Yes. This is correct.

Before the CIA overthrew Ukraine, was the current conflict even a remote possibility?

The US doesn't want a prosperous Russia, and they want to control Europe's access to energy. Why does the US have any say about the completion of the Nordstream II? Well, might makes right. The US federal government is as predatory on European citizens as they are on American citizens.

richwicks says

The US doesn't want a prosperous Russia, and they want to control Europe's access to energy.

Why did Biden remove sanctions from Northstream2 immediately after coming into the office? Makes no sense if control of energy is what US wants.

Why was Russian gas flowing through Ukrainian pipelines for the last 8 years and still flows FUCKING NOW? Wasn't the whole point of "CIA coup of 2014" to stop the transit?

The transfer of Russian gas supplies through the Ukrainian gas transmission system is expected to remain close to maximum required capacity through Sunday, data from the Gas Transmission Operator of Ukraine (GTOU) and GSA Platform indicates.
Current orders for the pumping of Russian gas through Ukraine are amounted to 107.33 million cubic meters, close to the maximum contractual obligations for Gazprom (which average about 109 million cubic meters per day).
Data shows that the pumping of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transit system has grown sharply since Thursday, when Russia kicked off its “special military operation” in Ukraine aimed at “demilitarizing” and “denazifying” the country. On Saturday, 108.1 million cubic meters of gas were delivered through the Ukrainian transit system, according to Gazprom. For comparison, deliveries through the network last Monday amounted to less than 50 million cubic meters.

https://sputniknews.com/20220227/russias-gazprom-continues-transit-of-gas-via-ukraine-in-regular-mode-1093418875.html

Or this is Mockingbird too? Are Sputnik and Gazprom in on the racket?

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

The US doesn't want a prosperous Russia, and they want to control Europe's access to energy.

Why did Biden remove sanctions from Northstream2 immediately after coming into the office? Makes no sense if control of energy is what US wants.

I don't spend ANY time listening to what these assholes CLAIM they are going to do, or even pay attention to any of the bullshit agreements they CLAIM they have made.

Show me the agreement that was signed.

I waste ZERO time listening to our "news". Zero. Show me the document. Show me this actually happened, because I have a government that fucking lies to me, and a press that will push those lies. DID Biden remove sanctions? Show me, prove it.

Nothing in this country is MORE FULL OF SHIT than our intelligence agencies, then our government, and then our press in that order.

Eric Holder says

Why did Biden remove sanctions from Northstream2 immediately after coming into the office? Makes no sense if control of energy is what US wants.

Why was Russian gas flowing through Ukrainian pipelines for the last 8 years and still flows FUCKING NOW? Wasn't the whole point of "CIA coup of 2014" to stop the transit?

Maybe the bribes paid to Biden and Hunter are paying off for someone.