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What is the difference in terms of the right to not be killed?
I think that modern science makes a compelling argument that a new human being is created at conception. Where do you draw the line(s) to relax the prohibition against killing innocent humans?
Because a human at 11 weeks of development doesn't even have a brain structure yet. It's more immoral to kill a mouse than it is to destroy that.
You may be right that abortionists are breeding themselves out. I am not concerned about laws, but about making a moral judgment.
You seem to make some strange assertions. Are you saying it's immoral to kill mice but it is not immoral to kill ½ of the adult human population?
As far as I know, in all societies killing innocent humans is prohibited. You say that some human beings should not have this protection. Which are those?
Have you ever had kids?
My kids (and all kids) didn't have much sentience or brain development for the first 3 months after they were born. All children up to several years are absolutely dependent on the parents for survival and would die within a few days if not provided food and shelter.
Frankly, I would rather have our abortion restrictions to be closer in line with most of Europe, as opposed to California, New York and Illinois that let abortions occur up to crowning for any reason - closer to what they do in North Korea and China.
I really don't think anyone that doesn't have a kid should have an opinion on abortion in all reality.
I really don't think anyone that doesn't have a kid should have an opinion on abortion in all reality. Not you UTF specifically as I don't know if you have kids.
A long time ago, I had a girlfriend who had an abortion w/o telling me. So that is reason numero uno why I don't have at least one kid. I had no say in it. So, ppl telling me that I shouldn't have an opinion on this because I don't kids...well, that's a touchy subject for me.
I shouldn't have an opinion about murder because I didn't have a relative who was murdered too?
You can't possibly think that a 6th week old fetus is the same thing as a 12 year old kid.
A long time ago, I had a girlfriend who had an abortion w/o telling me. So that is reason numero uno why I don't have at least one kid. I had no say in it. So, ppl telling me that I shouldn't have an opinion on this because I don't kids...well, that's a touchy subject for me.
Richwicks, you made an assertion, can you at least explain it? What is the difference between a fetus and a 12 year old that allows one to kill the first but not the second?
As far as societal norms, California law prohibits murder of a human being. As far as the right to live, I personally don't see any difference between humans in different stages of development.
I don't think that abortionists consider the fetus to be alive or human but rather an inconvenience to be eliminated.
I don't know why you bring up special situations such as having to chose between killing an old man or a child, or of governments engaging in war and war crimes.
If it is forbidden to kill a 12 year old on account that he is a human being, why not forbid the killing of a fetus on account that it is a human being?
Maybe they shouldn't have kids, they'll be like them. You oppose them, we know for certainty that children adopt the beliefs and attitudes of their parents, you want to reduce abortion - don't you?
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