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Tenpoundbass says

I think he really admires them, that's why he rags on about them, then projects his red team blue team shit others not interested or can give three shits about the shit hole politics of India.

Yes. Good idea. Time to put him/her on ignore.

There. That was easy.

Tenpoundbass says

I think he really admires them, that's why he rags on about them, then projects his red team blue team shit others not interested or can give three shits about the shit hole politics of India.

No I have no respect for hindoooo cult.
But by same logic you must be “democrat lover” as you rant about them whole day.

Are you communist bootlicker?

farmer2021 says

Are you communist bootlicker?

Well of course not silly, I'm already condensed to "Red team vs. Blue team". You might want to change the strings on that fiddle.

Tenpoundbass says

farmer2021 says

Are you communist bootlicker?

Well of course not silly, I'm already condensed to "Red team vs. Blue team". You might want to change the strings on that fiddle.

I have multiple fiddles.
But your own logic suggests you are secret communist lover pretending as “red team”.

farmer2021 says

But your own logic suggests you are secret communist lover pretending as “red team”.

I'm an independent three thinker, do you support genocide?

Hey, let's not personally insult each other. That's just about the only rule here.

B.A.C.A.H. says

There. That was easy.

Good way to handle free speech!

Ten pound,

soooooooo many folks immigrate here to California and reckon their brief, narrowly focused incomplete American experience filtered through their outside perspective entitles them to "explain it all" when in fact they are clueless.

Surely you know, enclaves in California, or any other single region in our country, give an incomplete picture. Probably their American born kids will "get it", but they won't, 'cause they can't. To their folk "back home" perhaps they would seem to have some well-informed perspective. To us native folk (including, and maybe especially, - their American born kids) they are just making noise.

I think Alistair Cooke may have been exceptional in this regard.

Thank you for calling it to my attention, time to tune out the noise.

Patrick says

Hey, let's not personally insult each other. That's just about the only rule here.

I don’t mind his insults.
I will continue to expose his politics of bending to sleazy politicians to hurt fellow citizen.

farmer2021 says

I don’t mind his insults.
I will continue to expose his politics of bending to sleazy politicians to hurt fellow citizen.

It's his job!

Tenpoundbass says

farmer2021 says

I don’t mind his insults.
I will continue to expose his politics of bending to sleazy politicians to hurt fellow citizen.

It's his job!

Yes for sure.
All citizens must keep calling out broken politics which only help elites and not common man.
Hindoooo is worse form of “elite cult” which treats fellow humans below cows.

farmer2021 says

All citizens must keep calling out broken politics which only help elites and not common man.

I'm in 100% agreement.

farmer2021 says

Hindoooo is worse form of “elite cult” which treats fellow humans below cows.

And Sikhs like you, are beneath them. You've got what you call a little bit of an Asshole problem. Sikhs shouldn't let you be their spokes person. You make Islam sound like the religion of peace.

Tenpoundbass says

farmer2021 says

Hindoooo is worse form of “elite cult” which treats fellow humans below cows.

And Sikhs like you, are beneath them. You've got what you call a little bit of an Asshole problem. Sikhs shouldn't let you be their spokes person. You make Islam sound like the religion of peace.

I am not spokesman of Sikhs and nobody can be. Sikh gurus ensured that every individual is empowered enough to be spokesman.
Sikhs faith is for true equality, They don't accept up/down just equal, So we are not beneath or superior to anybody.

I will continue to exercise my free speech and keep calling out "your worship of politicians" and trying to make "all of us" beneath your politician of choice.
Sikhs could have better outcome if they accepted Hindooo hegemony, But they didn't. They should continue to be free.
I love the motto of new Hampshire "Live free or die" when visited it and ever since ingrained in my mind.

Sufi Islam is very peaceful, But biased minds like you will only concentrate on violent wahabi cult.

By the way "free thinkers" are always called assholes by "agents of elites".. Nothing new as they are thorn in aristocrats ass on side of plebs.

farmer2021 says

Sufi Islam is very peaceful

Maybe so, but then they are in direct contradiction with the actions demonstrated by Mohammed, who robbed caravans, raped the women, and murdered his enemies, including a pregnant woman (bint Marwan) and a 100-year old man (abu Afak) who wrote mocking poems about him.

Patrick says

farmer2021 says

Sufi Islam is very peaceful

Maybe so, but then they are in direct contradiction with the actions demonstrated by Mohammed, who robbed caravans, raped the women, and murdered his enemies, including a pregnant woman (bint Marwan) and a 100-year old man (abu Afak) who wrote mocking poems about him.

I understand what you mean and they are resisting violent Islam for sometime.
If Americans in spite of freedom and weapons can't beat tyrants here, You can see what "unarmed sufi" can do over there.

There are other people who use similar logic against US flag and history.. "US is built on slavery and Indian genocide".
We should figure out "right stream" in every culture which promotes welfare of common man.
I would like to see the cult who thinks slavery/genocide is good defeated like Wahabis/hindoo... without giving up on US flag and history of doing good.(Sufis are in somewhat similar situation).

Farmer has to be muslim. Muslims has issue everywhere they go. Europe, Nigeria, india pak border, Burma Bangladesh, Phillipines. They kidnap women, riot, kill , convert forcefully. And farmer defends them. Not saying all but their book considers all non Muslim human as slaves n they may be ok if less than 2% after they start claiming their area as sharia

They kidnap women, riot, kill , convert forcefully. And farmer defends them. Not saying all but their book considers all non Muslim human as slaves n they may be ok if less than 2% after they start claiming their area as sharia

Yes, like EVERY Abrahamic religion. It's all in the Old Testament for Christian, the Torah for Jews, and Qu'ron.

I'm so tired of hearing "But their book says this!!!" - every Abrahamic religion says the same fucking thing.

richwicks says
They kidnap women, riot, kill , convert forcefully. And farmer defends them. Not saying all but their book considers all non Muslim human as slaves n they may be ok if less than 2% after they start claiming their area as sharia

Yes, like EVERY Abrahamic religion. It's all in the Old Testament for Christian, the Torah for Jews, and Qu'ron.

I'm so tired of hearing "But their book says this!!!" - every Abrahamic religion says the same fucking thing.
Lol. Yup. It's a club. If you ain't in it, you're a loser or the one with a problem. Sorry I didn't want to read a fiction novel.

I respect the religious that are moral and do the right thing. As someone not religious I still expect some decorum. Religious people as a whole don't live up to that standard from my experience. They're ass holes and use it as cover for being an ass hole.

KgK one says

Farmer has to be muslim. Muslims has issue everywhere they go. Europe, Nigeria, india pak border, Burma Bangladesh, Phillipines. They kidnap women, riot, kill , convert forcefully. And farmer defends them. Not saying all but their book considers all non Muslim human as slaves n they may be ok if less than 2% after they start claiming their area as sharia

Not the Sufis. Wahhabi does.
I am Sikh and I don't care your illogical brain farts.

Hindooo cultists are extremely violent as being illicit child of Islamic invaders, The plundering and genocidal DNA speaks very often.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots

richwicks says

They kidnap women, riot, kill , convert forcefully. And farmer defends them. Not saying all but their book considers all non Muslim human as slaves n they may be ok if less than 2% after they start claiming their area as sharia

Yes, like EVERY Abrahamic religion. It's all in the Old Testament for Christian, the Torah for Jews, and Qu'ron.

I'm so tired of hearing "But their book says this!!!" - every Abrahamic religion says the same fucking thing.

I like Christianity but not like pathetic christian missionaries.
In the modern era, Christianity has done lot of good. There is bad and good everywhere.

Islam is in clutches of Wahhabi and I wish Sufis take over.. It will be complete makeover.
Sikhs have Sufis in our holy book and message is very peaceful and so is their conduct even in modern times when intolerant Islam is reigning supreme.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fariduddin_Ganjshakar

Sufis practice Guru Yoga, it has almost nothing to do with Islam besides making Mohammed into some guru.

Rin says

Sufis practice Guru Yoga, it has almost nothing to do with Islam besides making Mohammed into some guru.

They are Muslims and I am not sure about "Guru Yoga", But their peaceful message is target of violent islamists.
Violent Wahhabi and Hindooos(Both product of same plundering school of thought) are scourge of the Bharti subcontinent.

WookieMan says

I respect the religious that are moral and do the right thing. As someone not religious I still expect some decorum. Religious people as a whole don't live up to that standard from my experience. They're ass holes and use it as cover for being an ass hole.

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Religion may be, strictly, incorrect - however, it's time tested for a stable society.

"Intelligent" people seem to go out of the well warn path, but generally when you're exploring some new route, you nearly always end up with a dead end. You're not just competing against present people, you're competing against generation after generation after generation. The "new paths" you wander along might very well have been walked before, 1000 years ago, and forgotten, because they were found to be dead ends 9 centuries ago.

Religion has utility but I'm disturbed at it's abuse by the powerful. However, when you're exploring "new" ways to view and explore the world, you're doing it without any benefit of prior knowledge which has been built over millennia.

farmer2021 says

They are Muslims

Many Sufis do not believe that Mohammed was the final prophet of the world and thus, they're almost like Latter Day Saints where Joseph Smith, like Christianity's founder Paul of Tarsas did centuries ago, have a vision of Christ and thus, became an apostle of sorts. Most mainstream Christians consider Smith to be full of shit or delusional.

So no, unless Islam has a reformation of sorts, where oddball denominations can form w/o the Imams and Clerics shutting it down, it's stll Islam, the religion started by Mohammed and spread by Caliphate Abu Bakr by the sword.

Sufis are Muslim in name and geography only.

farmer2021 is a worst cross bread of Sikh and Islam commie very likely have been working for a Hindus and doesn't have a clue on how to get out and be frustrated based on the comments. There is no f. god out there. Religion is all about looting resources and launching an assault on others. I ignored him/her long time ago and never justify to waste a second on any sh* comes out of him/her.

Blue says

farmer2021 is a worst cross bread of Sikh and Islam commie very likely have been working for a Hindus and doesn't have a clue on how to get out and be frustrated based on the comments. There is no f. god out there. Religion is all about looting resources and launching an assault on others. I ignored him/her long time ago and never justify a second to waste on any sh* comes out of him/her.

Good job. You learned to ignore, rather than genocide.
I am improving Hindoo cult members to learn to tolerate "free speech" without going on riot and rape journey.

Eventually Bhartis will get rid of slave Hindoo cult and their lives will improve massively.
I know this is hard for brainwashed people, But this is good therapy.

Blue says

farmer2021 is a worst cross bread of Sikh and Islam commie very likely have been working for a Hindus and doesn't have a clue on how to get out and be frustrated based on the comments. There is no f. god out there. Religion is all about looting resources and launching an assault on others. I ignored him/her long time ago and never justify a second to waste on any sh* comes out of him/her.

+I like all including Hindooo commoners. They will eventually free themselves from Stockholm syndrome.The are also victims of Hindooo cult crime and indoctrination and were sold "hate" in lieu of toilets and better life.