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Shaman says

people I know with average or even lower intelligence

That's why the average 3rd grade educated farmer of 100 years ago was better equipped to have a good life and avoid the pitfalls of stupidity that modern sophisticated people fall into and then blame society for it.

BoomAndBustCycle says

If sexual abuse is so prevalent… especially in the lower class… which I don’t disagree with. Then wouldn’t there be a disproportionately large portion of gay poor people. Wouldn’t we have an epidemic and growing gay population ?

I know it’s anecdotal but actually I know 5 sets of twins where one is gay and the other is straight. Is it really likely only 1 was molested? And that’s why they turned out that way? Three of the twins are female.. so were they molested by women .. since men molesting them just makes them more promiscuous?

I’m not arguing that sexual abuse or abuse in general doesn’t mess kids up badly. Just the extrapolation that sexual abuse is the cause of all gayness in the world is ridiculously myopic.

You are free to do your own research. The study I linked to showed 35% of male victims of male perpetrators were gay. Considering gay men are about 10% of the population, that’s an overwhelmingly large correlation.

Thus far you are choosing not to research. Instead you are arguing anecdotally based on a ridiculously small sample size. And how in the world would you know how many gay men there are that are lower income, particularly when gay men are most stigmatized in lower income black communities and the numbers would very likely be underrepresented in first generation low income Latino communities?

Plenty of highly educated and presumably intelligent people I’ve met are incredibly foolish, believing fervently in the most irrational and contradictory ideas and “facts” just because an authority they trust has said so.

Their own status depends on being part of that expert class. This is a big motive to fervently believe in those authorities, no matter how obviously wrong.

I'm all in favor of civil rights for homosexuals. They work, pay taxes, mind their own business. It's their business, not mine.

That said, anyone who got a digital prostate exam knows it's an abomination.

B.A.C.A.H. says

I'm all in favor of civil rights for homosexuals. They work, pay taxes, mind their own business. It's their business, not mine.

That said, anyone who got a digital prostate exam knows it's an abomination.

Big problem is when they start pushing it onto kids because of acceptance. To pump up gay numbers. It’s fucked up. I Fully oppose that shit.