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Sophia took the car again I see.

ThreeBays says

1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.

ThreeBays says

Be suspicious of anyone who talks to you in absolutes like "masks don't work"

or, "Masks do work".

I saw a couple walking through the park yesterday. She wore her blue chinese exam mask on her arm just below her elbow. He wore his in his back pocket.

They weren't Using "approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines".

Nobody does.

And still with the "asymptomatic" hokum!

Do you guys really believe your life will be better under communism because you supported Biden?

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

ThreeBays says

Be suspicious of anyone who talks to you in absolutes like "masks don't work"

or, "Masks do work".

"Masks reduce spread" is not an absolute statement :-)

Would you like to quantify that?

Didn't think so.

Onvacation says

"Don't breathe your own exhaust".

Recommended for Patrick's Chalk Graffiti thread.

ThreeBays says

1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.

Who the fuck does all this? I have never seen anybody, everybody has their little home made rags or dust masks on. Attitudes have deteriorated into perfunctory mask management in general, yanking them off and stuffing them in pockets as soon as they are out the door.
They are going to have to do better that the !INDIA PANIC! if they expect to gin up more worry here.

Not done in a real world public health setting; done with swabs in a lab.

Every real world public health survey says the exact opposite: Masks have no impact on virus spreading.

Every. Single. One. For. Decades. (inc. during Corona)

ThreeBays says

Be suspicious of anyone who talks to you in absolutes like "masks don't work".

Be suspicious of anyone promoting outdoor masks because there has not been one single documented casual outdoor transmission anywhere on earth.

Not one.

Indoor masks reduce spittle, but that's about all. Check out the videos of vapers wearing masks.

One quick meta thing.

Leftists LOVE any crisis that requires regulation and obedience (Pandemics, Global Warming).

Rightists DREAM about crisis that increase freedom and reduce regulation (ie Complete breakdown of Gov)

True.

I think it also corresponds mostly to a split between women (plus gay or effeminate men) and normal men.

Women and gay or effeminate men feel the need for regulations and obedience because they feel weak. They fear normal men.

Normal men know that freedom and low regulation is all they need to succeed.

Daily cases had been level until mask mandates kicked in on a totally new virus around June last year. This is indisputable here in the US and the rest of the world. No one is studying if the mask causes MORE spread. The science has said they don't stop it. The thing no one is studying is if the masks themselves cause the spread. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The graphs themselves show the obvious. We still saw a rise during a time when UV should knock out a virus, summer AND we were mandated to wear masks to stop the spread. This is in defiance of two known scientific facts. Mask don't work and flu season ends around late May. Decades of science just goes out the window? That's what is being argued here?

No one on this forum to date has personally know someone that died as far as I recall. A family member or good friend. Someone you actually see multiple times a year. It's all a co-worker or friend of a friend info. This is a joke...

ThreeBays says

for coronavirus droplets transmission of particles of >5 µm."

Covid is airborne, reducing droplets doesn't do shit. You need to reduce aerosols which you can't below n95/p100 with exhaust valve.

This fellow has many charts on his twitter account showing states and country level mandates and cases/deaths over time, with some overlapped to show correlation, along with some news headlines and comments from moronic politicians and other empty heads.

https://twitter.com/ianmSC

He also did a brief text on the flu disappearing and the unbelievable claim that it was "because of masks".

https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/the-magic-of-masks

I forgot being stranded on a desert Island, preferably with a Hot Chick or three. Not too too many, or you won't have time to dabble with all the work they'll make you do to feed and house them.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Leftists LOVE any crisis that requires regulation and obedience (Pandemics, Global Warming).

Rightists DREAM about crisis that increase freedom and reduce regulation (ie Complete breakdown of Gov)

I must be in between because neither of those extremes seem very pleasant.

We should start with enforcing the laws and stop following the rules.

https://spectator.us/topic/attractive-lose-mask-rebel/

Want to be attractive? Lose the mask
I go maskless. You should too

May 12, 2021 | 10:29 am

Masklessness in public requires courage. It earns the respect and esteem of your fellow commuters — the ones who don’t tut at you or berate you, that is.

There is also the exhilaration of risk. Exhibiting your face in a public space is now a crime. Here in Britain, officers have ‘enforcement powers’, meaning that they can issue fines of $277 for the ‘first offense’.That is twice the penalty for dangerous driving, an act which clearly carries more substantial threats to the public at large. That is relatively cheap compared to New York. In October, the New York State Department of Health announced that ‘individuals who violate [social distancing and mask-wearing rules] are subject to a maximum fine of $1,000 for each violation’. Ouch. In Washington State, refusal to ‘protect the health’ of ‘friends and loved ones’ can result in incarceration. You can, in theory, get 90 days in county jail for a breath of fresh air.

The rules are nonsense and everybody knows it. ...

Removing your mask doesn’t make you universally abhorred. In fact, it endears you to surprisingly large sections of the population. You will be met with wide-eyed admiration from men and women alike. Last week, I was approached suggestively by not one but two members of the opposite sex. Could it be that I have emerged from my lockdown chrysalis a great beauty? Of course not! It’s because these hopeful gentlemen haven’t seen a strange face in full since the halcyon days of early 2020. Try it, I implore you.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/12/996078156/south-carolina-governor-bans-mask-mandates

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/its-time-to-end-the-health-orders-ohio-to-lift-mask-mandate-on-june-2/

There are a number of uncertainties about restarting the pipeline, which had never been shut down entirely before last week. Industry experts have warned of residual delays, noting it takes between 15 to 18 days for the fuel to flow the entire length of the pipeline.

Booger says

Industry experts have warned of residual delays, noting it takes between 15 to 18 days for the fuel to flow the entire length of the pipeline.

That implies that a pipe shutdown at the source has 15-18 days of residual fuel in it. No need to refill the pipe, just add fuel at the source to push along the fuel remaining in the tube.

HeadSet says

Booger says

Industry experts have warned of residual delays, noting it takes between 15 to 18 days for the fuel to flow the entire length of the pipeline.

That implies that a pipe shutdown at the source has 15-18 days of residual fuel in it. No need to refill the pipe, just add fuel at the source to push along the fuel remaining in the tube.

I don't think it's that simple. You have to consider the inertia needed to start pushing a 1000 miles of liquid through a pipe.

I readily admit that I don't know the intricacies of such a pipeline, but the physics of it is interesting. It must require a HUGE amount of energy to start up the flow.

richwicks says

I don't think it's that simple. You have to consider the inertia needed to start pushing a 1000 miles of liquid through a pipe.

Regardless of the mechanics, I was just pointing out that the pipe is likely not empty and does not need to be refilled for fuel to come out the other end. Unless the shutdown happened 18 days ago, and in-line pumps drained the tubes.

HeadSet says

Regardless of the mechanics, I was just pointing out that the pipe is likely not empty and does not need to be refilled for fuel to come out the other end.

I think for safety reasons, it would have to be a nonvolatile gas in the line. I bet it's not been drained at all.

Just imagine draining the pipe to have gasoline vapor spanning the pipe for a couple hundred miles. Haha - now I'm curious to do that with a PVC pipe just to see what happens.

ThreeBays says

Perhaps they are waiting for large breakouts in communities of unvaccinated Trumpists

Like in Texas or Florida?

ThreeBays says

So now that mask mandates are gone and the guidance is wear a mask if you're not fully vaccinated, people will go around shops and restaurants maskless, pretending to have been vaccinated, i.e. act like scum against society

Maybe we should just lock everyone up?

Isn't it even more scummy to produce a virus in a laboratory, release it, and then try to get everyone to take an experimental biologic agent by calling it a "vaccine "?

You're "vaccinated" , so you're immune. Right?

ThreeBays says

So now that mask mandates are gone and the guidance is wear a mask if you're not fully vaccinated, people will go around shops and restaurants maskless, pretending to have been vaccinated, i.e. act like scum against society.

How? If you're vaccinated why should you care? I thought masks worked? Vaccinated people still can pass Covid. Calling people scum is a bit over the top if you've been vaccinated. Nothing for you to worry about. You don't have to wear a mask and can spread it to people that decided not to get it. Shouldn't you be happy in theory?

WookieMan says

How? If you're vaccinated why should you care?

Well, that's only if the vaccine works. Provided the vaccine works, they are immune and the unvaccinated pose absolutely no risk to the vaccinated, provided the vaccine works. If it doesn't work, well, I have to ask what the point of getting the vaccine was?

Of course the government changed the definition of what a vaccine was recently. It used to be if you were vaccinated, you were immune. Now, they only claim you don't get "as ill" although there is no quantifiable way to measure that, and no qualitative way to measure that without vaccine trials - which we never had, but are going through now.

Just rest assured, it's safe - although for some reason the "vaccine" producers have demanded and gotten indemnity, and the FDA refuses to take responsibility by approving these "vaccines".

Also, these are the first DNA and mRNA vaccines EVER in human beings. There is no published data on the efficacy of either type of "vaccine" in humans, but in animals studies, there have been some fairly negative results which is why there are no DNA or mRNA "vaccines" for animals either.

Oh yes, and wikipedia's entry for mRNA vaccines has had their history scrubbed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RNA_vaccine&offset=&limit=500&action=history



Remember, if anything the US Federal government has done in the last 20 years, was prove how absolutely the US government is committed to being truthful </sarcasm>

WookieMan says

Shouldn't you be happy in theory?

You would certainly think so but, these people are NOT EVER happy when people are allowed to make choices on their own. Especially after they, themselves, have been conned into doing something they can never admit was a mistake.

Covid Vaxxers are seriously flawed people.

WineHorror1 says

You would certainly think so but, these people are NOT EVER happy when people are allowed to make choices on their own. Especially after they, themselves, have been conned into doing something they can never admit was a mistake.

"We'll be happy when Women are LIBERATED to make their own choices!"

Also:
"I'm 33. Where are all the Good Men? Won't somebody Man Up and provide me any my three Chadlings with an Upper Middle Class lifestyle? We have a Toxic Masculinity Problem! Who will pay for my Macy's Card and pay off my Student Loans for my Modern Theater Degree! Patriarchy sucks!!!"

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/gov-larry-hogan-covid-19-update-may-14

No more mask requirements in Maryland, except in Baltimore City.

WalMart no longer requiring masks for employees:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-walmart-says-fully-vaccinated-215657574.html

It's going to be useless to try to get businesses to verify vaccination status. Like at a grocery store--would everyone que up for a store employee to check their papers? And what would stop me from going in with a mask (bypassing the vaccine verification line) and then take it off and blend in with the pre-checked people?

Another reason to avoid NY and NJ:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-cdc-guidance-wont-end-ny-mask-mandate-yet-cuomo-says/ar-BB1gI3bV

Typical liberal:

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/14/nancy-pelosi-refuses-to-relax-mask-mandate-until-more-republicans-in-the-house-get-vaccinated/