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Rin says

indc says

Ok lets do this logically. You tell me in what chronological order you believe events happened. Then I will give you inputs on what happened during that time in Indian history. We are not coming to any conclusion with your discussion.

So here's the official start date of recorded history. 4000 BC (give or take) along the Nile River/Egypt and simultaneously, the mouth of the Tigris/Euphrates rivers, Sumer. Yes, I believe that other ppl lived during the time but these were to first two recorded nation-states, not tribal gatherings by a river basin.

Archaeologists have dated sites all around the globe, prior to 4000 BC, but weren't able to verify that they belonged to a nation-state vs a tribal gathering or trading spot.

So I'll place the start date to some 7000 BC with a lot of murkiness between then and 4000 BC.

And then, for a so-called Atlantis to have existed,...

You brought a new term nation-state. I dont think that is a correct starting point for any historical civilization which grows organically. And I am curios how did you come to the belief that Egypt was a nation-state?

indc says

And I am curios how did you come to the belief that Egypt was a nation-state?

While Egypt was spread up and down a 1000+ mile long river basin, the centers of commerce and power grew around Memphis in the north and Thebes towards the south.

And thus, like in any area where there are growing patriarchs, etc, they'll periodically challenge each others' power for control over the main artery of the region, the Nile river, which connects the Mediterranean basin to the Sudan and Ethiopia.

And in latter dynasties, the Pharaohs reached out north, beyond the Nile basin into Mesopotamia.

And when do you think this happened? How do you know that they were fighting with each other?

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election2020 says

In the same thread I am Khalistani and communist.It is like saying "Trump Commies".

Khalisthani-Communist is not Trump-commie. Its like cuban-communist. Duma**.

Farm subsidies and MSP are socialist ideologies. Socialism is off-shoot of communism. You take benefits of Capitalism but support socialism.

Now coming back to the video. How do you know those guys. And how can you provide counter point to what they said in the video if you dont see it.

Communists and Khalistanis are at war for long time.
Protecting farm income/MSP is not communism. Again don't use Hindoooo logic, Read...
Hint:Farms or other means of production are owned by government in communism.

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Communists and Khalistanis are at war for long time.
Protecting farm income/MSP is not communism. Again don't use Hindoooo logic, Read...
Hint:Farms or other means of production are owned by government in communism..

Do you think Christians and Muslims and Communists fight with each other?
How do they treat each other in India? Just because you have bad history doesnt mean your paths dont meet now. But I clarified what Blue meant. I think he equated these protests to Socialism. And there is no way you can say MSP is not socialism.

And please loosen your pagdi to let knowledge in.

indc says

election2020 says

Communists and Khalistanis are at war for long time.
Protecting farm income/MSP is not communism. Again don't use Hindoooo logic, Read...
Hint:Farms or other means of production are owned by government in communism..

Do you think Christians and Muslims and Communists fight with each other?
How do they treat each other in India? Just because you have bad history doesnt mean your paths dont meet now. But I clarified what Blue meant. I think he equated these protests to Socialism. And there is no way you can say MSP is not socialism.

And please loosen your pagdi to let knowledge in.

Capitalism = communism. Godless = faithful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy
US = communist country.

Now this is full blown Hindoo logic.

indc says

And when do you think this happened?

If we're still on the topic of ancient Egypt, the upper half and the lower half the Nile region developed semi-independently (or not, if military engagements were happening) until unification around 3100 BC by a Narmer (Menes) figure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narmer

Rin says

indc says

And when do you think this happened?

If we're still on the topic of ancient Egypt, the upper half and the lower half the Nile region developed semi-independently (or not, if military engagements were happening) until unification around 3100 BC by a Narmer (Menes) figure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narmer

Ok, I read it. So lets say egypt was nation state in 3100BC based on some heiroglyphics. What is next on your history progression.

Hindoos ( Persian slur) ran away again.
Before You argue with Sikhs,You need to get rid of "Hindoo" tag as it represent slavery and insult by Muslim invaders.
Sikhs freed themselves with Khalsa and you should too before become slaves of Chicoms.

I have no interest in kicking your collective butts on any unrelated threads.

I support "small farmers of India" and they will win. Sikhs always have to give sacrifices to get rid of tyrants of Bharat as Hindoos have no guts or respect for freedom...Hindoos always have "bean counting" priority.
They will get rid of Modi's tyranny to same way they freed Bharat from tyranny of Indira!

Hindooos, Your religion is "Sanatan Dharam" , Not Hindooo slur. You will get respect from me when your free yourselves from slavery.

indc says

What is next on your history progression.

Lucky for me, I don't need to dig up my history texts from storage. Someone's got both a chart and an article to go with it ...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization

And the author was able to highlight my point about ancient Egypt forming two nation-states, northern nile valley (called Lower) vs southern nile (called Upper), prior to unification under Narmer.

Rin says

indc says

What is next on your history progression.

Lucky for me, I don't need to dig up my history texts from storage. Someone's got both a chart and an article to go with it ...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization

And the author was able to highlight my point about ancient Egypt forming two nation-states, northern nile valley (called Lower) vs southern nile (called Upper), prior to unification under Narmer.

Good find. Now lets discuss this. I dont know much about egyptian timeline so I will accept the time line in the article. And it matches your timeline of 3100 BC of Narmer.

For Indus valley civ, Vedic period starts at 1500BC. In Rig veda there is mention of River saraswati. Which western historians try to put it in some imaginary Aryan Land. But if you see the Rig veda it mentions that saraswati is the biggest river of all the rivers that people in that area know. And they mention all the rivers also in NW of india in Rig Veda.

So the vedic period ends around 1500 BC because that is when the river completely dries up. Rrig veda has a record of drying up of the river which matches the geological record for the river. You can see the mention of gagar-hakra river but no mention of Sarawathi that shows the bias in wikipedia or the author of that article.

The lie of global deluge is the reason they have to put vedic period starting at 1500BC as you can see there is only 1 line explanation of vedic age. And that is the reason the AIT needs to be stressed. Here is video prof Subhash Kak

www.youtube.com/embed/Rj9lEX2W_e0

I dont give any value to wikipedia proofs just so you know.

indc says

The lie of global deluge

The lie about the global deluge is that it didn't happen during any of recorded ancient history, during or after the unification of the two Egyptian nation-states.

In fact, many theologians believe that Nimrod and his Babel Tower project was the story of Sargon the Great which also indicates a stupidity because by then, circa 2500 BC, ALL of the world had already developed other languages besides ancient Sumerian-Babylonian.

And realize, according to the Bible, the flood comes after Nimrod's adventures.

If these parables existed in the past, it was long before recorded history and thus, fall into the category of cultural mythologies (which could include Egypt, Mesopotamia, Central America, India, China, and anywhere else ppl lived) and not an account of recorded history which for the most part, started around 4000 BC.

Rin says

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The lie about the global deluge is that it didn't happen during any of recorded ancient history, during or after the unification of the two Egyptian nation-states.

I dont mind the stories. It is corruption of history that follows I hate. The vedic period in wikipedia is only 1000yrs. But four vedas put together have so much information that they have 14 books and they have to make up 1 book with all the happenings for each century which will be too advanced for 20th century. And we have ramayana and mahabharat which are supposed to have happened after vedic period and there is not enough time on that scale to fit them all. The reason Ramayana and mahabharat are considered real events without the poetic license since they have information of flora and fauna information in them.

indc says

Rin says

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The lie about the global deluge is that it didn't happen during any of recorded ancient history, during or after the unification of the two Egyptian nation-states.

I dont mind the stories. It is corruption of history that follows I hate. The vedic period in wikipedia is only 1000yrs. But four vedas put together have so much information that they have 14 books and they have to make up 1 book with all the happenings for each century which will be too advanced for 20th century. And we have ramayana and mahabharat which are supposed to have happened after vedic period and there is not enough time on that scale to fit them all. The reason Ramayana and mahabharat are considered real events without the poetic license since they have information of flora and fauna information in them.

@indc is joke.
Biggest corruption: Pesians enslaved bhartis and called them "Hindoos"(Persian slur).
Hindu did some magic that this name is related to "Sindhu" river and persians couldn't say Sindu, so they made them hindu.

Easy would be to just admit and throw away "Hindoo", No shame in that. Every community lost and enslaved some period of time.
What is shameless is to keep repeating "Proud to be Hindooooo".

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@indc is joke.

Here is something for you khalisthani bast**.

www.youtube.com/embed/76GwruGhYzU

The guy is ex-Khalistani.
I don’t watch videos.

You can talk to him To learn about his change of mind.

I am not Khalistani , If I were one nothing bad in it.
But if I would have to call myself “Hindooo” ,a Persian slur, I would be ashamed and would have gotten rid of it.
No pride in calling yourself slave and not trying for freedom.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/27/723501793/american-soil-is-increasingly-foreign-owned

Wake up Americans. Along with "stocks" etc. you should own few acres everyone.
We can't rely on foreigners for our food security.

All CCP owned land should be confiscated for CCP-virus and election meddling.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2020/12/14/in-pictures-indian-farmers

Protesting Indian farmers are holding a one-day hunger strike on Monday to demand the scrapping of three new farm laws, which they say will drive down crop prices and were passed without their consultation.

Tens of thousands of farmers have blocked highways leading to the capital, New Delhi, for three weeks as police continue to ban them from entering the city.

The protests, which have spread to other parts of India, have been supported by workers’ groups, opposition parties and other civil society groups.

Several rounds of talks with the Indian government, which is led by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), have failed to produce any breakthroughs.

Patrick says

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2020/12/14/in-pictures-indian-farmers

Protesting Indian farmers are holding a one-day hunger strike on Monday to demand the scrapping of three new farm laws, which they say will drive down crop prices and were passed without their consultation.

Tens of thousands of farmers have blocked highways leading to the capital, New Delhi, for three weeks as police continue to ban them from entering the city.

The protests, which have spread to other parts of India, have been supported by workers’ groups, opposition parties and other civil society groups.

Several rounds of talks with the Indian government, which is led by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), have failed to produce any breakthroughs.

Do you believe in aljazeera news? There are videos of protestors being fed pizza and getting foot massages. You think they will do hunger strikes...

https://www.opindia.com/2020/12/ten-farmer-organisations-aikcc-extend-support-farm-laws-read-details/

While some misled farmers continue to protest against the new farm laws, ten farmer leaders associated with the All India Kisan Coordination Committee (AIKCC) met Union Agriculture Minister Narendra Singh Tomar and extended their support to the three new agrarian laws passed by Parliament. The All India Kisan Coordination Committee (AIKCC) is the fourth group of farmers who have pledged their support to the laws in the last two weeks.

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indc says

extended their support to the three new agrarian laws passed by Parliament.

This protest is led by India's anti national elements both inside and out side. None of them like farmers getting freedom.

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You can check people who are supporting these supposed "farmers". And why I call the election2020 a khalisthani bast***. who are in-cohots with the commies.

https://twitter.com/cmkshama/status/1338295340496130049

https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/several-us-lawmakers-voice-support-for-agitating-farmers-in-india/1989209

"I stand in solidarity with the Punjabi farmers in India protesting for their livelihoods and protection from misguided, manipulative government regulations,” Congressman Doug LaMalfa said on Monday.

"Punjabi farmers must be allowed to protest peacefully against their government without fear of violence," said the Republican lawmaker who represents Californian''s first Congressional district.

Peaceful protests r encouraged but hope they don't riot like blm here.
Usually opposing party trying to get power back india.

New regulations were requested by farmers and even opposing party wanted to do it. But now they are protesting since its done by current political party.



Like blond n polish, there are lot of sikh jokes.

Teacher and the Sikh Student
Teacher: What do we call people living in Turkey?

Sikh Student: I don’t know Sir.

Teacher: They are called Turks.

What about those in Spain and Germany?

Santa: That’s easy, sir. They are called Sperms and Germs, respectively.

Sikhs are the best protesters everywhere.
They feed poor people.

I can't deal with stupid people. All the farmers from other states come to Punjab to sell their produce.Once you find the reason of why, You would free from Hindoooo=Slave cult.
All political parties are run by Hindoooo=Slave, So Persian thug mentality is common.

election2020 says

https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/several-us-lawmakers-voice-support-for-agitating-farmers-in-india/1989209

"I stand in solidarity with the Punjabi farmers in India protesting for their livelihoods and protection from misguided, manipulative government regulations,” Congressman Doug LaMalfa said on Monday.

"Punjabi farmers must be allowed to protest peacefully against their government without fear of violence," said the Republican lawmaker who represents Californian''s first Congressional district.

Now lets see what the commie f kshama Sawat said in her tweet "Tomorrow, the Seattle City Council will vote on a resolution I'm co-sponsoring with CM Mosqueda. in support of millions of farmers in India, protesting against new privatization & exploitation laws by the Hindu fundamentalist & reactionary establishment regime of Modi & the BJP."

Freedom to protest doesn't mean you can give death threats to PM of India like your bloody khalisthanis do. And start asking govt to release all the islamo-commies to be released from jail even before govt can hold talks with them.
And when will you stop lying, farmers from all over india come to punjab to sell? HAHAHA. There is a punjabi saying that sikhs are going out of punjab and doing farming in other states because Punjab has become khalisthani base who try to oppress local sikhs to fill their cadre. Typical oppressors.

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election2020 says

Hindoo=Persian Slave
I showed you republican supporting farmers.There are tons of politicians of all political parties who support Sikhs.
Like a coward Hindooo you ran to other topic.

Go now run to some other topic after getting your ass kicked even more.
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/why-are-farmers-from-other-states-coming-to-punjab-to-sell-paddy-in-bulk-7053966/..

Are you dumb asking to let people protest peacefully and saying that they will pass a resolution in city council against another democracy are the same? Like I said loosen that pagdi.

Did you even read the article you shared?
“Despite the Centre’s ‘one nation one market’ or open market push, MSP is the biggest attraction among farmers across the country. That is why farmers of Bihar and UP are selling their paddy through traders in Punjab’s mandis where it is being sold at the MSP rate. Though these farmers are not getting the full MSP as farmers of Punjab are getting for their paddy, they are still fetching a higher rate for their paddy in Punjab than the local markets of their own respective states,”
Punjab APMC are paying higher MSP. Why is Central govt paying more for punjab farmers than other states? Because the center is afraid of khalisthani bitches there.

indc says

election2020 says

Hindoo=Persian Slave
I showed you republican supporting farmers.There are tons of politicians of all political parties who support Sikhs.
Like a coward Hindooo you ran to other topic.

Go now run to some other topic after getting your ass kicked even more.
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/why-are-farmers-from-other-states-coming-to-punjab-to-sell-paddy-in-bulk-7053966/..

Are you dumb asking to let people protest peacefully and saying that they will pass a resolution in city council against another democracy are the same? Like I said loosen that pagdi.

Did you even read the article you shared?
“Despite the Centre’s ‘one nation one market’ or open market push, MSP is the biggest attraction among farmers across the country. That is why farmers of Bihar and UP are selling their paddy through traders in Punjab’s mandis where it is being sold at the MS...

I get that you are on the slave side of Hindooooo equation, Not on slave driver based on lack of IQ.

I showed republican support for your commie jab.He is from central valley and sikh farmers are his constituents not of seattle lady.
>>>> Proven your lack of IQ.

The link shows that prices are highest in Punjab as there is a MSP slab which government is trying to destroy and farmers are agitating.
>> The laws is already present in other state where farmers are dead economically.Anybody can buy directly from farmer above MSP. The issue is that they want to make Sikh farmers slaves like Hindoooooo, But Sikhs are going to kick their dirty Hindooooo ass and help rest of Sanatanis, jains etc.

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I get that you are on the slave side of Hindooooo equation, Not on slave driver based on lack of IQ.

I showed republican support for your commie jab.He is from central valley and sikh farmers are his constituents not of seattle lady.
>>>> Proven your lack of IQ.

The link shows that prices are highest in Punjab as there is a MSP slab which government is trying to destroy and farmers are agitating.
>> The laws is already present in other state where farmers are dead economically.Anybody can buy directly from farmer above MSP. The issue is that they want to make Sikh farmers slaves like Hindoooooo, But Sikhs are going to kick their dirty Hindooooo ass and help rest of Sanatanis, jains etc...

I did not want to reply to you. But you will again say stupid hindu ran away.

Coming to IQ. I agree my IQ is lowest in hindus and you have highest in khalisthanis. If you are dumb than me what does it mean to all khalisthanis. HAHAHA.

Now coming to republican from central valley. Why do you keep bringing up points supporting my argument. Of course if khalisthanis say we will not vote he will talk that. How many other republicans support you khalisthanis outside the central valley. That is the point I made about the communist from Seattle.
Did anyone ask the Republican why dont USA take back the case from WTO where they complain that India gives high MSP to indian farmers.

And maybe they should point out to him that khalisthanis get the highest MSP in India so USA should withdraw the case else they will protest in Central Valley.

Hindooooo logic is back!
What do you expect republicans/democrats to do.. Not listen to concerns of their constituents?.. What does communism has to do with it as you brought in discussion using Hindoooo logic.

How does it matter to me what WTO says or does?
Sikhs have guts and brave they fight for better prices, whereas Hindoo=Persian slaves have no guts.

The government is selling all the assets cheap to their cronies and Hindooo slaves have no guts to stop it.
reason is simple. Hindoo are basically Persian slaves and used to slavery.

election2020 says

Hindooooo logic is back!
What do you expect republicans/democrats to do.. Not listen to concerns of their constituents?.. What does communism has to do with it as you brought in discussion using Hindoooo logic.

How does it matter to me what WTO says or does?
Sikhs have guts and brave they fight for better prices, whereas Hindoo=Persian slaves have no guts.

The government is selling all the assets cheap to their cronies and Hindooo slaves have no guts to stop it.
reason is simple. Hindoo are basically Persian slaves and used to slavery.

Thanks for making so many self goals. Now let me show why you are a commie f khalisthani:
I need more money I dont care what happens to you. That is a commie logic. My brethren should get more money it does not matter India has to pay more fine to WTO.

Govt should control everything that is commie logic. Why is indian govt selling all its assets for better management by private sector(their cronies). They are not selling them to foreign companies.

Now coming to repugs/demrats of central valley. They can talk shit because they are in USA. CANADA is being told by India to better watch out and UK MP apologized for writing khalisthani supporting tweets about protests.

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Please, no personal attacks. They just don't help anything.

Patrick says

Please, no personal attacks. They just don't help anything.

@patrick,
How about if you raise your voice for justice and someone call you "white racist" every time?
This is what these Hindooo do, Whenever we talk about justice , They call us terrorist.

You can ban me if you want, But This is what word Hindooo means and they also act like it:

Hindoo as ‘chore (thief), dakoo
(dacoit), raahzan (waylayer), and ghulam (slave)’.
In Turkish: chore,
raahzan and lutera (looter).
In Persian: ghulam (slave), barda
(obedient servant), sia faam (black color) and kaalaa (black). The
hypothesis that Persians had difficulty in pronouncing Sindhu is
baseless and preposterous.

www.youtube.com/embed/1Aaa-ekqxBg&feature=youtu.be

Here is "farmer bills" described by Hindooo, who learned How Khalsa believes "share and eat".

Election2020, you should follow Michail Boris on twitter. He is a big supporter of Khalistan.