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The Israeli Mossad Carries Out A Brilliant Operation!
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richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 11:42am
richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 11:42am
NoCoupForYou says
What makes you think everybody involved with a conspiracy has to know they are part of a conspiracy?
Hey, if you were to be making a television that was capable of spying on the purchaser, would you alert the entire engineering team this was a feature? If you wanted to make a machine capable of ballot fraud, would the entire company be alerted to this as a feature on the machine?
I literally slapped my head when I read what you wrote. This are military men, they follow orders, and if they don't, there are severe repercussions. I don't give a FUCK what some redacted report 60 years later says. Why should I? This is just the cleanup operation.
The question remains, why aren't the people who were involved able to talk openly in a congressional session? It really doesn't matter now, all the people that would have been involved with this incident if it was a false flag are gone. They will never know for certain, but that's the point of congressional testimony. Congressman have access to classified information and direct access to intelligence officers. They're all dead or retired now.
They just wanted to be heard, and even THAT won't be fucking allowed. Can't embarrass Israel.
The pilots and PT boats had no idea who the boat belonged to, other than it was so close to the warzone is was mere miles off the Sinai Penninsula. The instructions to the Patrol Boats was to immediately ascertain the nationality of the crew. So much for (((THEY KNEW!!!)))
What makes you think everybody involved with a conspiracy has to know they are part of a conspiracy?
Hey, if you were to be making a television that was capable of spying on the purchaser, would you alert the entire engineering team this was a feature? If you wanted to make a machine capable of ballot fraud, would the entire company be alerted to this as a feature on the machine?
I literally slapped my head when I read what you wrote. This are military men, they follow orders, and if they don't, there are severe repercussions. I don't give a FUCK what some redacted report 60 years later says. Why should I? This is just the cleanup operation.
The question remains, why aren't the people who were involved able to talk openly in a congressional session? It really doesn't matter now, all the people that would have been involved with this incident if it was a false flag are gone. They will never know for certain, but that's the point of congressional testimony. Congressman have access to classified information and direct access to intelligence officers. They're all dead or retired now.
They just wanted to be heard, and even THAT won't be fucking allowed. Can't embarrass Israel.
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mostly reader
2020 Nov 30, 12:25pm
richwicks says
But, again, the "casual" strategy was to take radical points of view and stir shit. Pro BLM, pro white supremacists, pro antifa, pro whoever. Then swap the position to the opposite and continue triggering, basically contribute to breaking down the society. No idea if Russia played a part in recent unrests, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was out there in some capacity (most likely there are multiple players involved, possibly both external and internal)
If you think that "false flag" is the only reason to not have Congressional hearing, your imagination is quite unbalanced. It's wild on one end, and poor on the other. I can think of multiple embarrassing issues that such hearing would've uncovered (in communication protocols, in authority overreach, in defense mechanisms) which is why it may have been avoided. You know what it most likely would not have uncovered? A false flag, if there were such, because uncovering that would almost require voluntary confession (yeah, right)
You didn't answer my one key question about USS Liberty: If it were false flag, why did it not work out as such? (that there were survivors is not a reasonable answer because survivors should've be expected in planning of the operation)
Give me an example of how the "Internet Research Agency" has "sowed discord" in American society? What did they do? Did they encourage Burn Loot and Murder to burn down cities and call the people that protested this "white supremacists"? Did they inject unrelenting propaganda in our our "news"?Their typical "casual" strategy was to take radical points of view, often opposing, and stir shit in online space. Sometimes there would be a specific task at hand and it would shift away from that "casual" MO. For example, the MH-17 incident required immediate online domination in order to steer away public opinion, which was attempted by throwing a lot of shitty versions on the fan and an army of trolls demanding that each one is considered. "Air controller Carlos", "They targeted Putin", "There was a bomb aboard", "It was shot down by Ukrainian fighter", "The pilot confessed", "They filled the plane with dead bodies", etc, etc, etc. Human attention span is not that great, it can only consume that much, which is why "domination by presence" works even if the presence is full of shit.
But, again, the "casual" strategy was to take radical points of view and stir shit. Pro BLM, pro white supremacists, pro antifa, pro whoever. Then swap the position to the opposite and continue triggering, basically contribute to breaking down the society. No idea if Russia played a part in recent unrests, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was out there in some capacity (most likely there are multiple players involved, possibly both external and internal)
If you think that "false flag" is the only reason to not have Congressional hearing, your imagination is quite unbalanced. It's wild on one end, and poor on the other. I can think of multiple embarrassing issues that such hearing would've uncovered (in communication protocols, in authority overreach, in defense mechanisms) which is why it may have been avoided. You know what it most likely would not have uncovered? A false flag, if there were such, because uncovering that would almost require voluntary confession (yeah, right)
You didn't answer my one key question about USS Liberty: If it were false flag, why did it not work out as such? (that there were survivors is not a reasonable answer because survivors should've be expected in planning of the operation)
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richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 12:37pm
richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 12:37pm
mostly reader says
But you can't show me any concrete examples of this.
Remember this story?
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/18/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-audio-proves-rebels-shot-boeing_n_5598469.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABb7g12_rd1_x3olGps9V9J49oC6h49MTWVHxfF8pJOOkAEIecwVARE1eIbpptE57_QfrTdaCSpcB6N5GXKR0K5uhREBhspgOHl4d1bm5-BuaJxIeJCeh8xHIBP6qa44OP-R2kApOdNeEETTuHPBg_4rrO1lLqXDkE7eMom7GHQF
Well the audio they released was analyzed by some jerks on the net, and I downloaded it as well. It's spliced together of two audio clips, one is mono, the other is stereo.
And that's when I ignored it.
Given that I know, for an absolute fact, that the United States overthrew Ukraine, I don't trust anything from my fucking lying government anymore.
Or the UK one. The Skipral story is hilarious. There were 3 victims of that "Novichock" attack - all their pets died - they were sealed in the house for 3 weeks. The cat survived it, but was euthanized in the end. The two gerbils died of lack of food and water. How's that for a nerve agent that a tiny amount can kill a city block? If I wanted to kill them, I'd put Hydrogen Florine on the door knob. That would kill them slowly of mercury poisoning and it wouldn't be traceable, but it would have been certainly noticed as an intentional murder. Super dangerous to handle that stuff. I could put a drop on your hand, and you're dead 3 months later. Organic mercury is scary.
Anyhow, our government really really wants to restart the Cold War because HOLY FUCK that was lucrative for the "defense" industry. The MIC hated that the USSR collapsed and we were about to have a "peace dividend" after 40 years of that bullshit. Good thing the "war on terror" showed up conveniently. It's all just about fucking money and power.
mostly reader says
Oh my god, I just don't give a goddamned what your opinion is.
mostly reader says
Same reason the Lavon affair didn't work - they got caught. Duh.
Give me an example of how the "Internet Research Agency" has "sowed discord" in American society? What did they do? Did they encourage Burn Loot and Murder to burn down cities and call the people that protested this "white supremacists"? Did they inject unrelenting propaganda in our our "news"?Their typical "casual" strategy was to take radical points of view, often opposing, and stir shit in online space. Sometimes there would be a specific task at hand and it would shift away from that "casual" MO. For example, the MH-17 incident required immediate online domination in order to stir away public opinion, which was attempted by throwing a lot of shitty versions on the fan and an army of trolls demanding that each one is considered. "Air controller Carlos", "They targeted Putin", "There was a bomb aboard", "It was shot down by Ukrainian fighter", "The pilot confessed", "They filled the plane with dead bodies", etc, etc, etc. Human attention span is not that g...
But you can't show me any concrete examples of this.
Remember this story?
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/18/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-audio-proves-rebels-shot-boeing_n_5598469.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABb7g12_rd1_x3olGps9V9J49oC6h49MTWVHxfF8pJOOkAEIecwVARE1eIbpptE57_QfrTdaCSpcB6N5GXKR0K5uhREBhspgOHl4d1bm5-BuaJxIeJCeh8xHIBP6qa44OP-R2kApOdNeEETTuHPBg_4rrO1lLqXDkE7eMom7GHQF
Well the audio they released was analyzed by some jerks on the net, and I downloaded it as well. It's spliced together of two audio clips, one is mono, the other is stereo.
And that's when I ignored it.
Given that I know, for an absolute fact, that the United States overthrew Ukraine, I don't trust anything from my fucking lying government anymore.
Or the UK one. The Skipral story is hilarious. There were 3 victims of that "Novichock" attack - all their pets died - they were sealed in the house for 3 weeks. The cat survived it, but was euthanized in the end. The two gerbils died of lack of food and water. How's that for a nerve agent that a tiny amount can kill a city block? If I wanted to kill them, I'd put Hydrogen Florine on the door knob. That would kill them slowly of mercury poisoning and it wouldn't be traceable, but it would have been certainly noticed as an intentional murder. Super dangerous to handle that stuff. I could put a drop on your hand, and you're dead 3 months later. Organic mercury is scary.
Anyhow, our government really really wants to restart the Cold War because HOLY FUCK that was lucrative for the "defense" industry. The MIC hated that the USSR collapsed and we were about to have a "peace dividend" after 40 years of that bullshit. Good thing the "war on terror" showed up conveniently. It's all just about fucking money and power.
mostly reader says
If you think that "false flag" is the only reason to not have Congressional hearing, your imagination is quite unbalanced. It's wild on one end, and poor on the other.
Oh my god, I just don't give a goddamned what your opinion is.
mostly reader says
You didn't answer my one key question about USS Liberty: If it were false flag, why did it not work out as such?
Same reason the Lavon affair didn't work - they got caught. Duh.
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mostly reader
2020 Nov 30, 12:53pm
richwicks says
I personally have seen enough to confirm what I wrote above with high confidence. This is a lot more than what you offer in support of your theories.
richwicks says
How did they get caught? by not sinking the ship, by leaving survivors, by doing or not doing what?
But you can't show me any concrete examples of this.What kind of concrete example do you expect? A post from account which has been deleted a long time ago? Accumulation of posts from different accounts, you want me to track them down? Those in which people "forget" their prior identities, and first post as a male and then as a female?
I personally have seen enough to confirm what I wrote above with high confidence. This is a lot more than what you offer in support of your theories.
richwicks says
Same reason the Lavon affair didn't work - they got caught. Duh.Ok, now it looks like you are trolling. Note that you are doing it to a person who patiently works with you through your conspiracy theory, while others just call you a nut.
How did they get caught? by not sinking the ship, by leaving survivors, by doing or not doing what?
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richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 1:09pm
richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 1:09pm
mostly reader says
The people who were there, bombed, and survived, THEY believe it was a false flag attack. Who am I to disagree? You can argue it with them.
I've listed multiple conspiracies that were called "conspiracy theories". Operation PBSuccess, Operation Ajax, Project MKUltra, The Tuskegee Trails, Operation Northwoods (aborted), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, the Lavon Affair ALL of these happened and then the USS Liberty. These are done by the intelligence agencies more often than not.
I have to spend post after post after post after post after post explaining why the USS Liberty, in particular, was a false flag. Do you think I give a shit about a PARTICULAR false flag or a PARTICULAR conspiracy that is considered a "conspiracy theory"?
No, I don't. I don't care.
Say I'm wrong on this - so what?
We just had a coup, and what's difficult is getting people to understand conspiracies happen. They are so naive and gullible that even when a conspiracy happens RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, they don't have the fucking balls to not believe the media. They are slaves to authority, have no ability to think for themselves, and they are the REAL ones giving up this nation. It's not a couple of people that sold this nation into 70 years of slavery which may begin in 2 months, it's people like you.
You are hung up on this very specific, who gives a shit, issue while a coup of the United States is taking place.
Good for the Mossad though murdering more Iranian nuclear scientists while they have a clandestine "secret" nuclear weapons program that unlike Iran, doesn't have IAEA inspections, and Israel won't sign the NNPT like nearly ever fucking other country in the world does - including the United States. Just disgusted with their hypocrisy.
mostly reader saysSame reason the Lavon affair didn't work - they got caught. Duh.Ok, now it looks like you are trolling. Note that you are doing it to a person who patiently works with you through your conspiracy theory,
The people who were there, bombed, and survived, THEY believe it was a false flag attack. Who am I to disagree? You can argue it with them.
I've listed multiple conspiracies that were called "conspiracy theories". Operation PBSuccess, Operation Ajax, Project MKUltra, The Tuskegee Trails, Operation Northwoods (aborted), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, the Lavon Affair ALL of these happened and then the USS Liberty. These are done by the intelligence agencies more often than not.
I have to spend post after post after post after post after post explaining why the USS Liberty, in particular, was a false flag. Do you think I give a shit about a PARTICULAR false flag or a PARTICULAR conspiracy that is considered a "conspiracy theory"?
No, I don't. I don't care.
Say I'm wrong on this - so what?
We just had a coup, and what's difficult is getting people to understand conspiracies happen. They are so naive and gullible that even when a conspiracy happens RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, they don't have the fucking balls to not believe the media. They are slaves to authority, have no ability to think for themselves, and they are the REAL ones giving up this nation. It's not a couple of people that sold this nation into 70 years of slavery which may begin in 2 months, it's people like you.
You are hung up on this very specific, who gives a shit, issue while a coup of the United States is taking place.
Good for the Mossad though murdering more Iranian nuclear scientists while they have a clandestine "secret" nuclear weapons program that unlike Iran, doesn't have IAEA inspections, and Israel won't sign the NNPT like nearly ever fucking other country in the world does - including the United States. Just disgusted with their hypocrisy.
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mostly reader
2020 Nov 30, 2:17pm
richwicks says
richwicks says
richwicks says
It doesn't mean I disagree with everything that you post, but I would suggest that you are more critical of your data.
Dixi.
The people who were there, bombed, and survived, THEY believe it was a false flag attack. Who am I to disagree? You can argue it with them.Those people are in better position than others to give details of the attack. They are NOT in better position than casual observer to offer motivation for the attack, and it's the motivation that we discuss. On the contrary. Getting bombed sucks, especially by an ally, and may lead to all kinds of biases.
richwicks says
Say I'm wrong on this - so what?
richwicks says
You are hung up on this very specific, who gives a shitI can only discuss one item at a time, and time is sparse. I did the one which you used to start this enlightening conversation. I'm not going to check your entire laundry list, quantity is not quality.
It doesn't mean I disagree with everything that you post, but I would suggest that you are more critical of your data.
Dixi.
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richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 4:09pm
richwicks
2020 Nov 30, 4:09pm
mostly reader says
The USS Liberty is not vitally important. It is important to know governments engage in conspiracies. I listed the USS Liberty as just one example. If you want PROVEN examples, there's the Lavon Affair, there's the fact Lehi murdered Count Bernadotte then their leader (they were a triumvirate) Yitzhak Shamir became PM, or the bombing of the King David Hotel, bombed by Irgun where one of it's leader Menachem Begin ordered the attack.
See? The British don't care if Israelis murder their men - do they? They had no problem with two terrorists becoming PM of Israel even when their own military were attacked. Think the US does?
Kissinger said military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy - and he wasn't kidding. That's not how just Kissinger thinks of military men, that's how the entire government thinks of us and military men. We're all cannon fodder.
It doesn't mean I disagree with everything that you post, but I would suggest that you are more critical of your data.
The USS Liberty is not vitally important. It is important to know governments engage in conspiracies. I listed the USS Liberty as just one example. If you want PROVEN examples, there's the Lavon Affair, there's the fact Lehi murdered Count Bernadotte then their leader (they were a triumvirate) Yitzhak Shamir became PM, or the bombing of the King David Hotel, bombed by Irgun where one of it's leader Menachem Begin ordered the attack.
See? The British don't care if Israelis murder their men - do they? They had no problem with two terrorists becoming PM of Israel even when their own military were attacked. Think the US does?
Kissinger said military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy - and he wasn't kidding. That's not how just Kissinger thinks of military men, that's how the entire government thinks of us and military men. We're all cannon fodder.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/27/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-scientist-assassinated-mohsen-fakhrizadeh.html
I have no doubt that the Israeli Mossad pulled off this attack. Many of you readers already know that from July of,1995 to July of 2005 I worked on the biography of a Mossad agent. One of my great achievements in life was getting the book published.
Over the ten years working on the book, I came to admire, respect, and even love the men and women who work at this intelligence agency. They do not have big budgets like the US, Russia, China, etc. This agency is still "flat out" the best intelligence agency on planet earth!!!
The state of Israel does not have capital punishment as a part of its criminal justice system. However, if a very-dangerous terrorist (for example) or some party or parties seriously threatens to destroy the state of Israel, capital punishment can be carried out in an extra-judicial manner.
When I was researching the Mossad, its headcount was roughly 1,200 men and women. Only 12 of these employees had the legendary license to kill that the famous novel and movie secret agent James Bond had. These men and women were organized into 4x 3-person teams known as Kidon teams. Kidon is a Hebrew word that can be translated several different ways including arrowhead, spear, or perhaps Buffalo's head.
The State of Israel is a Democracy governed by rule of law. An extra judicial killing is a very serious matter. It can have devastating domestic and international consequences. Vladimir Putin learned this well when several of his attempted "hits" failed.
A death warrant must be personally signed by both Israeli's Prime Minister and the Chief Justice of the Israeli Supreme Court (robo signatures are not accepted.) Once this is done, the target is located. A Yarid Team or teams is dispatched. The subject is placed under surveillance. This can last up to several months. By the time this surveillance is complete, the Israelis know the subject just as well as the people who live with this person. They know all the weaknesses in security measures to protect this subject.
The Kidon Team moves in to carry out the death warrant. In the case of the Iranian scientist I have no doubt that the US intelligence apparatus knew of this plan. They helped the Israelis with spy satellites, signal intercepts, and super-advanced computer technology.
The Iranian leadership is shaken right to its core. The frightening thought goes through their minds: "If they can get him, they can get any of us." There is also rage as Iran has been made a fool of in front of its own people and the world.
There will be calls for revenge against Israel and the US. We could spend pages talking about what form the revenge would take. One thing that I have no doubt of is that any revenge would get retaliation from President Trump in the form of a bomber and/or stealth missile attack on Iranian nuclear facilities. The escalation that followed would shut down the transport of Iranian oil to customers all over the world. Iran's economy is weakened by sanctions and the devastation of Covid-19. The loss of oil revenues will lead to an economic collapse. Most people in Iran will hate the US and Israel. I will leave you to reflect on what happens next. It will not be a happy ending.