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New theme for this site: "Civil Debate"


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2020 Jun 2, 10:00am   3,353 views  169 comments

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I'm very tired of the hate in partisan politics, and want to have productive discussions with people of good will on how we can improve life in the US and around the world.

So no more pictures of Trump as an insane clown or talk of his being raped by Putin. That does not address his policies specifically and helps nothing. It just divides us.

And no more phrases like "liberals". That immediately eliminates the possibility of a liberal wanting to have a polite discussion of his point of view here. Again, it just divides us.

We need unity, not more division. E pluribus unum.

I'm just going to flag posts and comments I find to be stirring up hate and division. Don't worry, you'll know what that means, and the author will be able to click the "edit" button to see just what it was that got the post or comment flagged. It will be clear and fair.

Yes, it's a kind of censorship, but my hope is that it will make this site more useful to people of good will who really want to understand their fellow citizens and improve life. While the MSM routinely censors "offensive" ideas like the Red Pill theory, or our innate differences by sex and race, I'm not going to do that. All ideas are still open for discussion in a civil manner. The tag-line "Freedom to Offend" was not being understood as I intended. It seemed to be generating posts that were deliberately and angrily offensive.

Sorry if it seems like the food-fight is over. Everyone is still very welcome to have their say, just treat others as you would wish to be treated, including other political parties and public figures, and you'll still be able to make any point you want.

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166   richwicks   2020 Jun 4, 7:22am  

Patrick says
Also @richwicks did you see this idea I had? https://patrick.net/post/1332461/2020-05-27-a-facebook-replacement


I'll read it and give input after I'm done with work tonight.

I'll send you a private link before I go to bed about what I want to do, and see if you're interested in it.

I want to destroy Facebook too.
167   Onvacation   2020 Jun 4, 7:29am  

marcus says
How was it a conspiracy ?

Be Cause Trump never colluded with the Russians. Got any proof to the contrary? Didn't think so.
168   PeopleUnited   2020 Jun 6, 5:17am  

@patrick

My organization encouraged all its members to recognize 9 minutes of silence in remberance of George Floyd earlier this week. For the most part, since his death we have all been reacting.

As we move past reacting and into charting a new course it has become apparent that most references to race are racist in modern day discourse.

The most obvious example of how most references to race promote racism would be the inequality in acceptable use of words that is actually enforced by the media and other racists.

The words “Black Lives Matter” are racist. How do we know this beyond a reasonable doubt? Ask any public figure with the common sense to respond by saying “all lives matter” to the racism that the phrase “black lives matter” represents. They will tell you they were forced to apologize for using language that by objective analysis is obviously all inclusive. The media has succeeded in labeling “all lives matter” as racist, and yet in their bizarro world “black lives matter” is not divisive or racist at all?

Let’s look at more examples.

Is white lives matter a racist comment? If it is, then it becomes obvious that “black lives matter” as a phrase is used to promote racism as well. In fact because the media promotes black lives matter racism, it is institutionalized racism. Objective analysis reveals that the narrative promoted in the media, politics and academia is essentially that people of one race are responsible for all the inequality and all the wrongs experienced by all other people of all other races. What they fail to recognize is that racism is a two way street.
Is the term black privilege racist? Well so is the term “white privilege.”
Is it racist to use the n word? Great, but that means EVERYONE that uses it is promoting racism.

We could go on and on, but the objective reader, if they will take the time to contemplate and not just react, will come to the conclusion that most discussion of and reference to race (outside of genetic research and science) is in itself racist, counterproductive, and divisive.
169   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 6, 8:02am  

marcus says
Anyone who thinks there is proof that they didn't have sufficient reason to investigate that, would have to have all the information intelligence agencies have about Russian financing of Trump, and everything else they knew about his dealings and his peoples dealing with Russia.


Steele dossier was oppo research written by Russian Oligarchs. There isn't any doubt about it.

All of Maddow's BOMBSHELLS about Russian Financing have been shown to be crap.

The NYT even tried to claim that a few thousand dollars in a Mutual Fund or REIT that itself invested a fraction of their holdings in Russia "Proved" Trumps invested in Putler's Regime.

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