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marcus
2020 Jan 10, 11:37am
marcus
2020 Jan 10, 11:37am
Goran_K says
I actually think you might believe that. I know you want to believe it. Same thing for you people.
When you say something that even all intelligent republicans know is a fact, is a lie, it says more than you realize.
We both know the answer, but you (and others) keep falsely parroting the "big switch" lie. It's pathetic.
I actually think you might believe that. I know you want to believe it. Same thing for you people.
When you say something that even all intelligent republicans know is a fact, is a lie, it says more than you realize.
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Heraclitusstudent
2020 Jan 10, 11:38am
Heraclitusstudent
2020 Jan 10, 11:38am
NoCoupForYou says
Yeah, but no one can undo the pill. You can't put back the djinn in the bottle.
The illegitimate birthrate skyrocketed -
Yeah, but no one can undo the pill. You can't put back the djinn in the bottle.
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HeadSet
2020 Jan 10, 12:03pm
HeadSet
2020 Jan 10, 12:03pm
Heraclitusstudent says
The "pill" did not cause the illegitimate birthrate to skyrocket. The "pill" allowed promiscuity because the threat of pregnancy was severely lessened. The skyrocketing illegitimate birthrate was caused by welfare, paying women to stay at home merely for having a fatherless baby. True here and in England.
NoCoupForYou saysThe illegitimate birthrate skyrocketed -
Yeah, but no one can undo the pill. You can't put back the djinn in the bottle.
The "pill" did not cause the illegitimate birthrate to skyrocket. The "pill" allowed promiscuity because the threat of pregnancy was severely lessened. The skyrocketing illegitimate birthrate was caused by welfare, paying women to stay at home merely for having a fatherless baby. True here and in England.
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Chiromancer
2020 Jan 10, 1:35pm
Goran_K says
No it's not simple. The transition of the South to dominate Republican took place over many years. The racist Dems were often economically populist. So supported the Dem economic agenda going back to FDR. Eventually those Dems either died off or after Johnson passed civil rights legislation followed Wallace and Nixon. The Viet Nam war and the 1960s counter culture also played apart and so on. The transition was not all racially driven. There are still vestiges of white working class Dems in the south, ancestral Dems. Probably tipped the gov. race in Eastern Kentucky the Dem.
But clearly today the whites in the south gravitate toward the Republicans not because of Lincoln but in spite of Lincoln. The African Americans to the Dems in spite of Lincoln and because they feel the Dems best represent their interests. It's a nearly complete realignment. In States like Virginia the realignment is going the other direction due to demographic changes. This is the coming challenge for the Republicans. While the Dems have their own issues in the rust belt.
Did those racist democrats STAY democrats or become Republicans?
No it's not simple. The transition of the South to dominate Republican took place over many years. The racist Dems were often economically populist. So supported the Dem economic agenda going back to FDR. Eventually those Dems either died off or after Johnson passed civil rights legislation followed Wallace and Nixon. The Viet Nam war and the 1960s counter culture also played apart and so on. The transition was not all racially driven. There are still vestiges of white working class Dems in the south, ancestral Dems. Probably tipped the gov. race in Eastern Kentucky the Dem.
But clearly today the whites in the south gravitate toward the Republicans not because of Lincoln but in spite of Lincoln. The African Americans to the Dems in spite of Lincoln and because they feel the Dems best represent their interests. It's a nearly complete realignment. In States like Virginia the realignment is going the other direction due to demographic changes. This is the coming challenge for the Republicans. While the Dems have their own issues in the rust belt.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jan 10, 2:13pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jan 10, 2:13pm
HeadSet says
Both. The pill promised the end of unwanted pregnancy which changed social mores. The cloward pliven strategy ended the economic hazard.
Everywhere illegit births went up, not just USA out UK
Either would have increased illegit births, but together it was a double whammy.
Heraclitusstudent saysNoCoupForYou saysThe illegitimate birthrate skyrocketed -
Yeah, but no one can undo the pill. You can't put back the djinn in the bottle.
The "pill" did not cause the illegitimate birthrate to skyrocket. The "pill" allowed promiscuity because the threat of pregnancy was severely lessened. The skyrocketing illegitimate birthrate was caused by welfare, paying women to stay at home merely for having a fatherless baby. True here and in England.
Both. The pill promised the end of unwanted pregnancy which changed social mores. The cloward pliven strategy ended the economic hazard.
Everywhere illegit births went up, not just USA out UK
Either would have increased illegit births, but together it was a double whammy.
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HeadSet
2020 Jan 10, 2:17pm
HeadSet
2020 Jan 10, 2:17pm
Chiromancer says
In other words, virtually no racist Dem changed parties.
Goran_K saysDid those racist democrats STAY democrats or become Republicans?
No it's not simple.
In other words, virtually no racist Dem changed parties.
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Chiromancer
2020 Jan 10, 3:02pm
HeadSet says
Some did some didnt. Those that didnt are mostly dead. But today the "David Dukes" support Republicans.
In other words, virtually no racist Dem changed parties.
Some did some didnt. Those that didnt are mostly dead. But today the "David Dukes" support Republicans.
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HeadSet
2020 Jan 10, 6:58pm
HeadSet
2020 Jan 10, 6:58pm
Chiromancer says
I suspect that the "David Dukes" are so rare they are far outnumbered by black Republicans.
HeadSet saysIn other words, virtually no racist Dem changed parties.
Some did some didnt. Those that didnt are mostly dead. But today the "David Dukes" support Republicans.
I suspect that the "David Dukes" are so rare they are far outnumbered by black Republicans.
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Everybody I ever met who remembered the 50s thought it was one of the greatest decades of their lives. There wasn't so much regulation of people's behavior, crime was low, #1 problem with schools was gum chewing and passing notes rather than drugs and teen pregnancy and Transsexualism, economy was good.
Yet when the Media presents it, it was a dark time of Paranoid Patriarchy where women were chained to their frost free refridgerators in their Mimi Eisenhower Pink Kitchens.
Any thoughts on this?