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The problem with reasonable gun control


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2019 Aug 7, 6:41am   5,765 views  74 comments

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There is a lie that the left and the right can agree on reasonable gun control. Although both sides say so, neither side actually believes this.

Fact: The left wants a total ban on guns. Step#1 of achieving that is getting the right to agree to reasonable gun measures. These are measure that take one small step towards a total ban on guns. With each public incident or mass shooting, the left will call for more gun control measures. This will continue in a never ending campaign.

The right will not go along with reasonable gun control measures because they know that the campaign from the left will never cease. And so the right understands that there should be no negotiation on the topic with the left.

This was explained to me recently by a friend, who owns guns, and donates to the NRA.

Take the CA gun roster, which covers which guns can be legally bought/sold in CA. Without any logic, this roster includes certain guns while excluding other guns that function in exactly the same manner. The size of this roster has changed over the years, it’s only gotten smaller.

And so the statement that both sides should be able to agree on reasonable gun reform is a lie because the left will never stop their campaign for a total gun ban. With each incident in the media, the left will continue their campaign to increase restrictions until there is only one law remaining: total ban for civilians.

Neither side will ever trust the other to be reasonable on the topic.

It’s alarming to me how many of my leftist friends and colleagues believe that only police and government should own guns. Frankly, it terrifies me that they do not see any fault with this logic as an American.

“The police will be there to protect me”

“This is the United States of America, not Cambodia. The government will never harm us”

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70   Tenpoundbass   2019 Sep 22, 9:53am  

Gun advocates, and the NRA, needs to start pushing back just as hard after every mass shooting crissis.
Use the crisis as an excuse to stress why Americans need to be armed to protect themselves more than ever.

Beto argued last week, that if you can have an AR15 then why not a Bazooka? And why not indeed.
When the Left comes after your AR15's, push back and loby for fully automatic weapons. When they come after Bump stocks, lobby for High capacity magazines.
Make it hurt so much every time they bring it up, make them damn sorry they fucked with a good thing. They'll give up eventually. They keep pushing because they think we're Pussies. They are really soft and are the ones that fold and cave, when you push back on them and counter their demands, with your own demands.
71   Patrick   2019 Sep 22, 10:15am  

Booger says


I think this is true.

Employers and their union, the US Chamber of Commerce, have profited mightily by relocating US manufacturing to China and importing millions of illegals to drive down wages for menial labor.

Republicans went along with it because they are traditionally the party of business interests.

Democrats were supposed to represent labor, but have been paid off by Wall Street etc to shift their focus from labor issues to tranny bathrooms and to ignore the harms of globalization.

This worked because most Democrats tend liberal, and that kumbaya "we are the world" attitude makes them opposed to national borders which protect the citizens workers within those borders. They would much rather "keep families together" through endless chain migration and openly allowing illegals to break the law with "sanctuary" states and cities.

So what do the poorer half of all workers have on their side? Their guns. The US CoC and liberals know that eventually their anti-labor policies are going to lead to armed revolt as labor realizes that the democratic process has been so corrupted by globalist money that they really have almost no chance through peaceful democratic means of saving their jobs or recovering the living standards they had. Democracy has been a sham, just a show put on to distract the public and make them think they have choice when they actually do not. Elections have all been limited to candidates who support globalists.

And thus the media, wholly owned by the Democratic party and their globalist funders, really want to take those guns away.

The last-ditch effort of citizens to resist through democratic means was the election of Donald Trump. And it does seem to be working. The situation for labor has greatly improved under Trump, and he talks openly about how US workers have been screwed by bi-partisan policies to undercut US manufacturing and wages.
72   HeadSet   2019 Sep 22, 7:36pm  

The situation for labor has greatly improved under Trump, and he talks openly about how US workers have been screwed by bi-partisan policies to undercut US manufacturing and wages.

+1000

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