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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 18, 9:06am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 18, 9:06am
And let's also talk about forcible hospitalization.
39 encounters with LEOs. Expulsion from School for violent behavior. Made death threats. Authorities alerted to social media posts where he proclaimed he'd be a pro school shooter. Bragged about torturing animals.
... and yet he wasn't forcibly hospitalized with these abundant and repeated Major Red Flags.
"Here's an idea; let's not forcibly hospitalize crazy kids who make repeated violent threats and exhibit a litany of red flag behaviors, that would be an imposition on FREEDOM and HUMAN RIGHTS! instead, let's restrict Gun Rights for the entire population."
39 encounters with LEOs. Expulsion from School for violent behavior. Made death threats. Authorities alerted to social media posts where he proclaimed he'd be a pro school shooter. Bragged about torturing animals.
... and yet he wasn't forcibly hospitalized with these abundant and repeated Major Red Flags.
"Here's an idea; let's not forcibly hospitalize crazy kids who make repeated violent threats and exhibit a litany of red flag behaviors, that would be an imposition on FREEDOM and HUMAN RIGHTS! instead, let's restrict Gun Rights for the entire population."
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 9:41am
LeonDurham says
There are many personal defense scenarios wherein the AK47 is the ideal weapon of defense. That's why its popular.
Id rather have a baby shotgun in my room, but I wake up dreary eyed and don't want to aim.
weapons whose sole purpose is mass killing
There are many personal defense scenarios wherein the AK47 is the ideal weapon of defense. That's why its popular.
Id rather have a baby shotgun in my room, but I wake up dreary eyed and don't want to aim.
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 9:57am
anon_4480e says
OK, outside of John Wick, please describe those scenarios.
There are many personal defense scenarios wherein the AK47 is the ideal weapon of defense. That's why its popular.
OK, outside of John Wick, please describe those scenarios.
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 10:03am
Sniper says
OK great. Please describe what one would need an AR-15 where other firearms would not work. Nobody is talking about banning all firearms.
Sniper says
Yes--that is what I think.
Sniper says
I don't know--let's discuss and look at the data.
Sniper says
Who cares? Do you or don't you think gun show sales should follow the same procedures as any other gun sale?
Sniper says
Talk to McGee---he said it was for hunting.
Please define "sole purpose". Every weapon made today has multiple purposes.
OK great. Please describe what one would need an AR-15 where other firearms would not work. Nobody is talking about banning all firearms.
Sniper says
So, if someone needs to take medication for a short while trying to get over the depression of losing their wife, they shouldn't be able to own a gun.
Yes--that is what I think.
Sniper says
What medical conditions would preclude getting a permit. Who decides what's an applicable medical condition?
I don't know--let's discuss and look at the data.
Sniper says
How many of these past mass killers bought their weapon at a gun show?
Who cares? Do you or don't you think gun show sales should follow the same procedures as any other gun sale?
Sniper says
You can't use a AR-15 to hunt deer, it's not powerful enough. An AR-15 shoots a bullet approximately the same size as a 22. There are MANY more powerful rifles used for hunting. AR-15s aren't one of them.
Talk to McGee---he said it was for hunting.
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 10:07am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
And they have automatic badges. Everyone doesn't check in with a security guard.
Not at all. Like I said, go to any private or government office of any size, and they have the bulk of people arriving at 9AM and leaving at 5PM, and yet they still have security checkpoints.
And they have automatic badges. Everyone doesn't check in with a security guard.
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 10:07am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
And they have automatic badges. Everyone doesn't check in with a security guard.
Not at all. Like I said, go to any private or government office of any size, and they have the bulk of people arriving at 9AM and leaving at 5PM, and yet they still have security checkpoints.
And they have automatic badges. Everyone doesn't check in with a security guard.
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 10:09am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Except that's a bald faced lie. Its no use discussing this with someone who persists is lying. Obviously you don't want to discuss this rationally.
There ABSOLULTELY was security. The school was locked down. The shooter knew the school's routine because he was a former student so he knew a way to subvert the security.
We are having one. Broward and the Gun Banners are saying a 3100+ campus with a single security guard or checkpoint = "Did everything possible" when it didn't.
There was NO Security
Except that's a bald faced lie. Its no use discussing this with someone who persists is lying. Obviously you don't want to discuss this rationally.
There ABSOLULTELY was security. The school was locked down. The shooter knew the school's routine because he was a former student so he knew a way to subvert the security.
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 10:11am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Or let's stop false choices and do both!! I think as Americans we can actually do 2 things at once!!!!!!!
Most difficult and large problems have multiple causes and require multiple solutions.
Can we stop pretending that if one proposed solution doesn't solve the entire problem that its not worth doing??
"Here's an idea; let's not forcibly hospitalize crazy kids who make repeated violent threats and exhibit a litany of red flag behaviors, that would be an imposition on FREEDOM and HUMAN RIGHTS! instead, let's restrict Gun Rights for the entire population."
Or let's stop false choices and do both!! I think as Americans we can actually do 2 things at once!!!!!!!
Most difficult and large problems have multiple causes and require multiple solutions.
Can we stop pretending that if one proposed solution doesn't solve the entire problem that its not worth doing??
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MrMagic
2018 Feb 18, 2:26pm
MrMagic
2018 Feb 18, 2:26pm
LeonDurham says
I've been asking for SPECIFIC solutions, but all I've seen are generic Liberal MSM anti-gun talking points.
Why is that?
Can we stop pretending that if one proposed solution doesn't solve the entire problem that its not worth doing??
I've been asking for SPECIFIC solutions, but all I've seen are generic Liberal MSM anti-gun talking points.
Why is that?
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 2:26pm
LeonDurham says
..where the real problem lies in these shootings:
How many other shootings took place after people knew the shooter was trouble and did nothing?
Can we stop pretending...
..where the real problem lies in these shootings:
How many other shootings took place after people knew the shooter was trouble and did nothing?
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 3:14pm
TwoScoopsPlissken says
What are the odds?
LeonDurham saysIf you want to have a real discussion about how to stop more of these shootings, I'm game.
We are having one. Broward
What are the odds?
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 3:43pm
Sniper says
There are several solutions posted on here.
They're talking points because they are good and deserve to be discussed.
I've been asking for SPECIFIC solutions, but all I've seen are generic Liberal MSM anti-gun talking points.
Why is that?
There are several solutions posted on here.
They're talking points because they are good and deserve to be discussed.
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 4:13pm
LeonDurham says
...that's all the Liberals have. Talking points but no solid workable realistic solutions.
Typical.
They're talking points because...
...that's all the Liberals have. Talking points but no solid workable realistic solutions.
Typical.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 18, 4:14pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 18, 4:14pm
anon_cf6c6 says
It's missing a final square: Blame Guns!
How many other shootings took place after people knew the shooter was trouble and did nothing?
It's missing a final square: Blame Guns!
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LeonDurham
2018 Feb 18, 4:25pm
anon_cf6c6 says
It's not practical to require background checks at gun shows?
It's not practical to keep mentally ill people from getting guns?
Somehow other countries can do it.
Talking points but no solid workable realistic solutions.
It's not practical to require background checks at gun shows?
It's not practical to keep mentally ill people from getting guns?
Somehow other countries can do it.
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MrMagic
2018 Feb 18, 6:17pm
MrMagic
2018 Feb 18, 6:17pm
Why are you repeating the same crap, over and over, when it's already been answered multiple times?
LeonDurham says
Gun show background checks go on ALL the time. Just stop with the BS Liberal talking point.
LeonDurham says
Ahh, geez, another one.... Go read the Federal 4473 transaction form. This has been repeated over and over, yet you're still repost the same BS.
Why?
Tatty/Joey/happygilmore/cajunsteve/LeonDurham, it can only be one thing, you're just trolling at this point.
LeonDurham says
It's not practical to require background checks at gun shows?
Gun show background checks go on ALL the time. Just stop with the BS Liberal talking point.
LeonDurham says
It's not practical to keep mentally ill people from getting guns?
Ahh, geez, another one.... Go read the Federal 4473 transaction form. This has been repeated over and over, yet you're still repost the same BS.
Why?
Tatty/Joey/happygilmore/cajunsteve/LeonDurham, it can only be one thing, you're just trolling at this point.
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FortWayne
2018 Feb 18, 6:44pm
FortWayne
2018 Feb 18, 6:44pm
Government should not dictate needs.
LeonDurham says
LeonDurham says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Killing intruders, deer, and target shooting as well.
It's like saying cars should be banned because their only purpose is to run over people.
If someone needs an AR-15 to hunt deer, they should probably get a new hobby.
Let's get real here.
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Y
2018 Feb 18, 6:51pm
Y
2018 Feb 18, 6:51pm
Deer are fast.
Myopia is real.
Libbies need to stop dictating the terms of their surrender...
LeonDurham says
Myopia is real.
Libbies need to stop dictating the terms of their surrender...
LeonDurham says
If someone needs an AR-15 to hunt deer, they should probably get a new hobby.
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bob2356
2018 Feb 18, 7:58pm
Sniper says
So that's why it's called the gun show loophole. Because gun show background check go on ALL the time. I'm so glad that point was cleared up. ROFLOL.
Gun show background checks go on ALL the time.
So that's why it's called the gun show loophole. Because gun show background check go on ALL the time. I'm so glad that point was cleared up. ROFLOL.
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 8:04pm
Even if gun retards were to be intellectually honest for a nanosecond they'd admit that no ban on 2A rights is worth saving the lives of children. Here's the thought experiment:
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Morons.
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Morons.
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 8:35pm
anon_46fb4 says
The real morons are the idiots who create straw man hypotheticals that distorts the facts. The facts are Guns don't kill. Some people are killers. Here's a thought experiment, if putting all murderers to death eradicated murder, would you execute the murderers or let them live?
Even if gun retards were to be intellectually honest for a nanosecond they'd admit that no ban on 2A rights is worth saving the lives of children. Here's the thought experiment:
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Morons.
The real morons are the idiots who create straw man hypotheticals that distorts the facts. The facts are Guns don't kill. Some people are killers. Here's a thought experiment, if putting all murderers to death eradicated murder, would you execute the murderers or let them live?
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anonymous
2018 Feb 18, 8:35pm
anon_46fb4 says
Is that English?
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Is that English?
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MrMagic
2018 Feb 18, 8:36pm
MrMagic
2018 Feb 18, 8:36pm
bob2356 says
A gun show "loophole" is another one of those Libbie, made up terms, just like "assault weapons". A FAKE term used to fire up their base with inaccurate facts.
Can you please post a link to any of the current firearm manufacturers site showing the page with the "Assault Weapon" model? I'd like to buy one.
So that's why it's called the gun show loophole.
A gun show "loophole" is another one of those Libbie, made up terms, just like "assault weapons". A FAKE term used to fire up their base with inaccurate facts.
Can you please post a link to any of the current firearm manufacturers site showing the page with the "Assault Weapon" model? I'd like to buy one.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 18, 9:37pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 18, 9:37pm
LeonDurham says
But if you don't have a badge, the guard doesn't let you pass. And insists you get a visitor badge or register a book or otherwise identify yourself. C'mon, this is obtuse now.
And they have automatic badges. Everyone doesn't check in with a security guard.
But if you don't have a badge, the guard doesn't let you pass. And insists you get a visitor badge or register a book or otherwise identify yourself. C'mon, this is obtuse now.
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 7:48am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Agreed. It is obtuse. Are you going to give every parent a badge then? And every kid?
But if you don't have a badge, the guard doesn't let you pass. And insists you get a visitor badge or register a book or otherwise identify yourself. C'mon, this is obtuse now.
Agreed. It is obtuse. Are you going to give every parent a badge then? And every kid?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 19, 7:51am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 19, 7:51am
anon_8f378 says
Every employee at most 3100+ facilities has a badge, what's the problem? Badge wearing to gain access to buildings is done all over the USA Millions and Millions of Times a day.
Stop acting like it's some wild new solution; it's ubiquitous.
Remember, one dead kid is too many, right?
Obtuse is when you want to begin an entire new process to register gun owners on top of the background checks already in place, but you resist a basic, common, everyday checkpoint at a school. The same checkpoints that are found at most similar sized facilities, public or private, around the country. So many than badge scanners and badge makers have multiple competing companies fighting each other for market share.
Agreed. It is obtuse. Are you going to give every parent a badge then? And every kid?
Every employee at most 3100+ facilities has a badge, what's the problem? Badge wearing to gain access to buildings is done all over the USA Millions and Millions of Times a day.
Stop acting like it's some wild new solution; it's ubiquitous.
Remember, one dead kid is too many, right?
Obtuse is when you want to begin an entire new process to register gun owners on top of the background checks already in place, but you resist a basic, common, everyday checkpoint at a school. The same checkpoints that are found at most similar sized facilities, public or private, around the country. So many than badge scanners and badge makers have multiple competing companies fighting each other for market share.
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Y
2018 Feb 19, 7:53am
Y
2018 Feb 19, 7:53am
surround all schools with the retired and elderly looking for additional income.
no way in without passing one of these.
they all have their medic alert buttons to signal danger.
if the perp trys to shoot his way in, well they were going to go soon anyway...
anon_8f378 says
no way in without passing one of these.
they all have their medic alert buttons to signal danger.
if the perp trys to shoot his way in, well they were going to go soon anyway...
anon_8f378 says
Agreed. It is obtuse. Are you going to give every parent a badge then? And every kid?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 19, 7:56am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 19, 7:56am
We need more TEACHERS! Thousands of them at $50k+/year!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!
"How about a security guard at the entrance?"
NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!
"How about a security guard at the entrance?"
NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 8:11am
BayArea says
Probably. One thing is for certain, alcohol possession a/o consumption should definitely disqualify anyone from purchasing/possessing/owning a gun(s).
We should also revisit Alcohol Prohibition
Should anti-depressant prescription disqualify you from gun ownership?
Probably. One thing is for certain, alcohol possession a/o consumption should definitely disqualify anyone from purchasing/possessing/owning a gun(s).
We should also revisit Alcohol Prohibition
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 8:13am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
I for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.
I have a much better, simpler, cost effective solution.
Raze all the schools in this country, sell the School Buses off to foreign countries, and make Public Education something we do from home on our Government Internet.
Game.Set.Match
Fin
We need more TEACHERS! Thousands of them at $50k+/year!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!
"How about a security guard at the entrance?"
NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!
I for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.
I have a much better, simpler, cost effective solution.
Raze all the schools in this country, sell the School Buses off to foreign countries, and make Public Education something we do from home on our Government Internet.
Game.Set.Match
Fin
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 19, 8:19am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 19, 8:19am
errc says
Excellent. But the Teachers would flip the fuck out.
Raze all the schools in this country, sell the School Buses off to foreign countries, and make Public Education something we do from home on our Government Internet.
Excellent. But the Teachers would flip the fuck out.
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 8:25am
anon_e96ec says
Yup. So now, admit that saving everyone from mass killings still wouldn't convince the gun retards to mitigate their rights to shoot things. Saving children just doesn't matter enough. Proved! Case Closed!!
Retarded morons!!
anon_46fb4 saysEven if gun retards were to be intellectually honest for a nanosecond they'd admit that no ban on 2A rights is worth saving the lives of children. Here's the thought experiment:
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it? See, they'll either beg the question, like Cucked Cunts or they'll run away and resume the stupid argument that perfection is necessary. OK, Cunt Cucks: prison sentences don't stop bank robbery, therefore MAKE BANK ROBBERY LEGAL.
Morons.
The real morons are the idiots who create straw man hypotheticals that distorts the facts. The facts are Guns don't kill. Some people are killers. Here's a thought experiment, if putting all murderers to death eradicated murder, would you execute the murderers or let them live?
Yup. So now, admit that saving everyone from mass killings still wouldn't convince the gun retards to mitigate their rights to shoot things. Saving children just doesn't matter enough. Proved! Case Closed!!
Retarded morons!!
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MrMagic
2018 Feb 19, 8:28am
MrMagic
2018 Feb 19, 8:28am
errc says
Do we see as many mass shootings at sports arenas, concerts, political rallys, airports, police stations, government buildings, etc.
Why have these mass shootings been at schools, churches, theaters, nightclubs and malls?
I for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.
Do we see as many mass shootings at sports arenas, concerts, political rallys, airports, police stations, government buildings, etc.
Why have these mass shootings been at schools, churches, theaters, nightclubs and malls?
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FortWayne
2018 Feb 19, 8:30am
FortWayne
2018 Feb 19, 8:30am
anon_6b979 says
Wow, judge jury and executioner at once anon_6b979, based on 0 facts, but on lots of emotions. That is ultra left wing, good job.
Yup. So now, admit that saving everyone from mass killings still wouldn't convince the gun retards to mitigate their rights to shoot things. Saving children just doesn't matter enough. Proved! Case Closed!!
Wow, judge jury and executioner at once anon_6b979, based on 0 facts, but on lots of emotions. That is ultra left wing, good job.
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FortWayne
2018 Feb 19, 8:32am
FortWayne
2018 Feb 19, 8:32am
If you guys gonna ban something, ban the left. They create divisive rhetoric that leads to crime and murder. We could save thousands of lives instantly if we just banned left wing media, so we could be a united nation.
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Onvacation
2018 Feb 19, 8:45am
Onvacation
2018 Feb 19, 8:45am
anon_46fb4 says
If.IF.
If a BAN on cars would prevent traffic deaths would you ride the bus?
If a BAN on some firearms led to an absolute eradication of mass killings in America would you or would you not vote against it?
If.IF.
If a BAN on cars would prevent traffic deaths would you ride the bus?
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 9:00am
Sniper says
Presumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
errc saysI for one don’t thing a Security Guard is going to deter, let alone stop these types of mass murders from happening.
Do we see as many mass shootings at sports arenas, concerts, political rallys, airports, police stations, government buildings, etc.
Why have these mass shootings been at schools, churches, theaters, nightclubs and malls?
Presumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 9:51am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
This is why it's impossible to have an honest discussion. One side wants nothing to do with it.
Strawman after strawman is all you get.
And it's why no real solutions can ever be implemented. One side doesn't want solutions.
We need more TEACHERS! Thousands of them at $50k+/year!
We need to double spending in our SCHOOLS! Nothing too good for our Kids!
Increase the pensions! Increase the training budget! We need more Admins of Welcoming Diversity! Fund our schools, Evil Republicans!
"How about a security guard at the entrance?"
NOOOOO! That would cost ZILLIONS! Just add extra layers of bureaucracy to buy a gun, or better yet, Ban Semi-Auto Rifles!
This is why it's impossible to have an honest discussion. One side wants nothing to do with it.
Strawman after strawman is all you get.
And it's why no real solutions can ever be implemented. One side doesn't want solutions.
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MrMagic
2018 Feb 19, 9:51am
MrMagic
2018 Feb 19, 9:51am
errc says
Wrong answer, as all the mass shootings were committed by adults, since children can't purchase firearms.
Presumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
Wrong answer, as all the mass shootings were committed by adults, since children can't purchase firearms.
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anonymous
2018 Feb 19, 9:57am
Sniper says
All the school shootings were committed by adults?
That seems to be at odds with reality, because in reality, almost every single school shooting was carried out by children.
Outside of the lone instance that happened in my town, where a right wing Christian gun nut retard murdered the Amish kids at their small school in Gap, PA.
But I guess that was the liberals fault for not having armed militia surrounding the one room school house in Amish Country
errc saysPresumably because they’re being committed by children/students, and the schools are the institutions they most commonly attend
Wrong answer, as all the mass shootings were committed by adults, since children can't purchase firearms.
All the school shootings were committed by adults?
That seems to be at odds with reality, because in reality, almost every single school shooting was carried out by children.
Outside of the lone instance that happened in my town, where a right wing Christian gun nut retard murdered the Amish kids at their small school in Gap, PA.
But I guess that was the liberals fault for not having armed militia surrounding the one room school house in Amish Country
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High school kids have ~50 years of unrealized labor potential, at a ballpark of 50k per year.
2,500,000 x 17 = $42,500,000 in lost potential wages
17 families will now have to bury a child. Average cost of funeral service 10k = $170,000
Let’s say on average 50 people attend each funeral, so they have to take a day or two of unpaid bereavement leave.
850 people x $500 in lost wages= $425,000 in lost wages
It’s not cheap to travel with no notice for planning, so we’ll use an average $1,000 per person = $850,000
100’s maybe 1,000s of survivors will now suffer from PTSD, which is hard to calculate costs but easily into the millions = $100,000,000- $1,000,000,000
So we’re already potentially north of 1 billion dollars in costs, without even beginning to consider all the ancillary costs to come, so we can pause and move over to the benefit side of the analysis.
Benefits
A gun manufacturer made a sale of ~1,000 which netted them a hundred or two in profits.
So who gets stuck with the tab for another gun nut taking his lame hobby of target practice to the local high school?
Oddly, not the gun maker. Because your halfwit Republican Government says that the gun worked as intended, to turn teenagers into bloody chunks.