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Democrats already know that Moore will win:

anonymous says

who has been credibly accused of sexually abusing underage girls, to win and keep the party’s slim Senate majority? Or would he be such an albatross, causing bitter intra-party schisms, that it’s actually better for Republicans if the Democrat, Doug Jones, wins?

Maybe it will bring some sense into the feminazi word-where Gloria allred reigns supreme. Maybe, just maybe the feminazi rape of men might take a pause. Maybe feminzais finally realize equality means they get a job and not liveoff alimony and child support. Enogh of liberal crap.

Proof, due process-nope lynch mobs is just fine. Just like democrats supported slavery and fought to keep it and the KKK were democrats-dems always wrong.

lostand confused says

bob2356 says

So what if she wrote some stuff in after his writing?

Except she and the Allred lady claimed Moore WROTE IT.

As usual liberals. It has come to this-so what she forged stuff? Do you need two shovels to dig deeper?

Still ducking the first question. Do you say fox is wrong? Run and hide.

Still ducking the real issue. Did this creep write in the book or not? Run and hide.

The only shovels I will need is to dig you out of your hiding space.

lostand confused says

Admitting you added ketchup to your dog-when you accused someone else of adding ketchup to trigger your allergies-that is fake.

What about admitting to putting ketchup on a hot dog that Roy Moore gave you? What if expert hot dog analysts agree that they hot dog came from Roy Moore?
Tuesday will be interesting. If Roy Moore gets elected, we can look forward to a Senate ethics hearing. Trump better hope that Moore is clean. I'd hate to see the fallout from a guilty Moore hitting a beleaguered Trump.

anonymous says

Is it better for their candidate, Roy Moore, who has been credibly accused of sexually abusing underage girls, to win and keep the party’s slim Senate majority?

How many more seats will the republicans pick up when the rest of the democrat sleaze balls like Franken, Conyers, et al resign?

Democrats have a sexual harassment problem
The party’s leaders can't keep protecting sexual harassers and claim they’re the party of the resistance.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/28/16704580/democrats-sexual-harassment-conyers-franken-moore

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

What about admitting to putting ketchup on a hot dog that Roy Moore gave you? What if expert hot dog analysts agree that they hot dog came from Roy Moore?

Which is what Roy Moore is asking for. he has denied the claims and in the yearbook case he has consistently asked for Allred to release the yearbook to a third party independent analyst for analysis. Allred has consistently refused-now we know why.

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

If Roy Moore gets elected, we can look forward to a Senate ethics hearing.

Looks like he'll have to wait in line. There are plenty of politicians in line ahead of him. Will Franken let him cut the line?

lostand confused says

Which is what Roy Moore is asking for.

Doesn't he have a picture of the signature? Does he have an analyst who gives reason to doubt the claim?

Roy Moore claimed that he knew some of the accusers, but now claims he never knew any of them. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moore-now-claims-he-knows-none-of-his-accusers-contradicting-his-earlier-defenses/article/2642549
Should we now doubt all of Roy Moore's claim's? There were 30 people who either accused Moore or said that they heard of the encounters at the time that they happened. You would have to believe that they are all liars, and the Washington Post is doing a bogus hit job, and believe Roy Moore, who specifically and obviously lied about the issue.

The Media "fails" to mention most of the accuser's accusations (like those of Franken, too) are rather pathetic.

"He grabbed my butt 40 years ago one time."

Even if this things were true, is it a big deal if he did indeed grab an ass 40 years ago?

Another reason to be skeptical: Being attracted to teens is a lifelong thing as most sex preferences are. It wouldn't have stopped in 1982. It would have kept manifesting itself.

Also, there is no statute of limitations in Alabama for sexual crimes against teens. How come his accusers won't file a complaint?

Finally, it's awfully coincidental that all these people come out 30 days before an Election, but didn't say shit for decades.

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

Doesn't he have a picture of the signature? Does he have an analyst who gives reason to doubt the claim?

Most handwriting experts have said they need the original to make an analysis. A copy on the interwebz would be false. Roy Moore's accuser and Gloria Allred lied and said the date and place were signe dby him-now she admits to forging that. Case closed.

lostand confused says

Case closed.

Run and hide.

lostand confused says

Roy Moore's accuser and Gloria Allred lied and said the date and place were signe dby him-now she admits to forging that. Case closed.

OK. By that logic... Roy Moore admitted to knowing the women. Then he lied when he said he did not know all of those women. Case closed. Lock him up.

bob2356 says

Run and hide

Liberal logic. I have been saying the same thing, you throw some strange words -run hide, blah, blah, no logic, no argument-then run and hide and then emerge, say the same thing and then run and hide-LOL! You refuse to answer Gloria allred and Beverly nelson said Roy moore wrote those words. Then they now say she wrote those words. That is forgery -case closed.

"It's not forgery your honor. I simply added some zeros to this part of the check as 'notes to myself'. "

bob2356 says

Run and hide.

Get Off My Grass

lostand confused says

bob2356 says

Run and hide

Liberal logic. I have been saying the same thing, you throw some strange words -run hide, blah, blah, no logic, no argument-then run and hide and then emerge, say the same thing and then run and hide-LOL! You refuse to answer Gloria allred and Beverly nelson said Roy moore wrote those words. Then they now say she wrote those words. That is forgery -case closed

Just answer the questions. or run and hide which you are very good at.

So you don't embarrass yourself further the term is tampering, not forgery. If moore wrote the note and she added to it that would be tampering. Which is exactly what moore said in his letter to hannity. "I believe tampering has occurred". Which means he admits he wrote it the note and signed it. Which is back to why is some 30 something year old creep is writing love notes in a high school girls yearbook. Care to not address that issue once again? Run and hide.

anon_d0bb5 says

bob2356 says

Run and hide.

Get Off My Grass

Perfect. CIC/ironman/ovacation/sniper/piggy has joined the run and hide fest. You forgot to log in, not that anyone doesn't know it's you.

bob2356 says

Just answer the questions. or run and hide which you are very good at.

So you don't embarrass yourself further the term is tampering, not forgery. If moore wrote the note and she added to it that would be tampering. Which is exactly what moore said in his letter to hannity. "I believe tampering has occurred". Which means he admits he wrote it the note and signed it. Which is back to why is some 30 something year old creep is writing love notes in a high school girls yearbook. Care to not address that issue once again? Run and hide.

No it is a forgery. What you picked up some words at the old age center -runa dn hide, run and hide. par for the course.

This is a forgery. Gloria Allred and Beverly claimed that Moroe wrote those parts. Now they claim she wrote it. That is forgery-claiming that someone else wrote what you wrote is forgery-not tampering.

Here is wiki on forgery
Forgery is the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects, statistics, or documents with the intent to deceive for the sake of altering the public perception, or to earn profit by selling the forged item

lostand confused says

bob2356 says

Just answer the questions. or run and hide which you are very good at.

So you don't embarrass yourself further the term is tampering, not forgery. If moore wrote the note and she added to it that would be tampering. Which is exactly what moore said in his letter to hannity. "I believe tampering has occurred". Which means he admits he wrote it the note and signed it. Which is back to why is some 30 something year old creep is writing love notes in a high school girls yearbook. Care to not address that issue once again? Run and hide.

No it is a forgery. What you picked up some words at the old age center -runa dn hide, run and hide. par for the course.

This is a forgery. Gloria Allred and Beverly claimed that Moroe wrote those parts. Now they claim she wrote it. That is forgery-claiming that someone else wrote what you wrote is forgery-not tampering.

Here i...

Did she forge the entire thing, or did Roy Moore write the first part of the entry

errc says

Did she forge the entire thing, or did Roy Moore write the first part of the entry

That's what lost and confused running and hiding about. Moore admits writing and signing in his letter to hannity. Lost and confused is lost and confused on what is meaningful and what isn't.

lostand confused says

Here is wiki on forgery
Forgery is the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects, statistics, or documents with the intent to deceive for the sake of altering the public perception, or to earn profit by selling the forged item

Very good, you can cut and paste. Now here is tampering.

interfere with (something) in order to cause damage or make unauthorized alterations.
"someone tampered with the brakes on my car"
synonyms: interfere with, monkey around with, meddle with, tinker with, fiddle with, fool around with, play around with; doctor, alter, change, adjust, damage, deface, vandalize;
informalmess around with

See the part that says unauthorized alterations. Moore got it, you didn't.

bob2356 says

See the part that says unauthorized alterations. Moore got it, you didn't

Except Beverly Nelsona nd her Lawyer claimed and yes there is a tape of it that MOORE WROTE THOSE. That si not unauthorized alterations-THAT IS FORGERY.

A lawyer and Beverly claimed Moore wrote that-NOW THEY ADMIT SHE WROTE IT. I know in the irrational world of the liberal that makes sense. But the facts are Nelson and her lawyer Moore wrote those sections-they both claimed it on national television. Now they claim she wrote them.
That is forgery.

Unauthorized alterations is when you alter something -not when you add stuff and claim someone else wrote them-that is fraud/forgery.

Hutch says

Your link to a YouTube video above but still does not work. Are you trying to hide something?

Yeah right. Must be a bug in patrick's code. You cna take the link and see it in youtube. It is also there in breitbart article I posted.

lostand confused, why don't you just let us know what video you want us to watch? Why should multiple people run around trying to figure out what you are referring to?

lostand confused says

Hutch says

Your link to a YouTube video above but still does not work. Are you trying to hide something?

Yeah right. Must be a bug in patrick's code. You cna take the link and see it in youtube. It is also there in breitbart article I posted.

Breitbart?? Lol

How about something not so biased #FakeNews

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

lostand confused, why don't you just let us know what video you want us to watch? Why should multiple people run around trying to figure out what you are referring to?

I already provided the link. Here you go again. In the breitbart article , you have video and even which minute to click on to see nelson claiming it is roy's writing and allred too. It also has their statements. Now they claim he did not write those. If Moore wins, he owes Allred .

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/forgery-explained-beverly-young-nelson-gloria-allred-presented-notes-roy-moores-writing/

It was only a little bit forged.

If the ink is old, she might have forgotten adding the notes about who Roy Moore was and when / where he signed it. If she added the notes recently, then she certainly lied in the linked video. That would make her about as believable as Moore who also changed his story. There are an additional 29 people for Moore to say are lying. If AL wants to elect the guy despite the likelihood that he chased young girls, they can go ahead. It will end up being investigated in the Senate.

The claim that Nelson admitted to forging the signature is clearly just as dishonest as Nelson's original claim, so let that reflect on those who make the claim.

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

The claim that Nelson admitted to forging the signature is clearly just as dishonest as Nelson's original claim, so let that reflect on those who make the claim.

The claim is Nelson and Gloria Allred said that Moore wrote those things. That is on video in the link I provided.
Internet exploded, Roy Moore denied -Nelson and Allred now admit she wrote those words-date and the DA and the location-which they claimed they did.
Now remember this is not something that was an ambush in court. Nelson had the document for a long time, Gloria allred verified it-Moore was a public figure with hundreds or thousands of signatures in the open-she could have easily reviewed and compared.
She did not and came out in the public domain and claimed those parts were done by Moore. Now they admit it was not Moore who wrote those, but it was Beverly Nelson who wrote that.

In addition Moore has asked for an independent expert to analyze-Gloria Allred and Beverly refuse to turn it over to an independent reviewer.

Those who still support these partisan hacks should reflect on how their belief systems hold them hostage and refuse to let them see the truth. Forgery has been established. This is not forgotten, this was a claim, parts of which they admit to forgery-the rest Moore is willing to let a third party do the analysis. Why is Gloria Allred/Beverly not agreeing to turn it over.

We got a news agency that despite at least two sources and their own editors, didn't catch a missed date and refuses to explain how it happened (though we all have probably guess right).

We got a former Miss USA who claims she was Naked under her Robe and is upset that she got looked up and down at a beauty contest. She appeared on a show hosted by a woman who posed in lingerie for a magazine photo shoot.

We got the paper of record suggesting the President does nothing but drink diet coke and watch TV.


IF the President is drinking however many cans of Diet Coke and watching TV and is kicking your ass, you're basically being beaten by an overage, wealthy basement dwelling /Pollack, so you must really suck bad.

Looks like Mueller ain't got nuthin', and they're switching back to the "Abuser of Women" angle.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Looks like Mueller ain't got nuthin', and they're switching back to the "Abuser of Women" angle.

Exactly what I was thinking, recycling old fake news stories, hoping they work on the next go round.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

We got the paper of record suggesting the President does nothing but drink diet coke and watch TV.

lol wow fake clinton (fake) news network can't get any worse than that. It's a raycyst diet-soda right-wing conspiracy! Fox is a beacon of knowledge compared to this shite.

lostand confused says

Now remember this is not something that was an ambush in court. Nelson had the document for a long time, Gloria allred verified it-Moore was a public figure with hundreds or thousands of signatures in the open-she could have easily reviewed and compared.

Stupid mistake by Allred. I don't know why anybody uses her. The Washington Post had an article a long time ago stating that those annotations were in a different ink and appeared to be different than the rest of the inscription. Roy Moore basically admitted that he did the inscription when he said that the inscription had been tampered with. Interestingly, he didn't call it a forgery. What does that tell you?

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

What does that tell you?

Stop reading the Washington Post for your fake news.

Sniper says

Goran_K says

The fact that she was caught red handed adding writing and claiming it to be Moore’s takes away most of her credibility.

That’s why Roy Moore will win a senate seat.

Looks like the voters agree that it's a forgery and they think the MSM is full of crap and Fake news:

Well guess they knew it wasn't a forgery, maybe you should get your poling info from Nate silver at 538.