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curious2 says

Of course, if you were in Senegal, you could be silenced from claiming that Christianity is just as good as Islam. Would that make you believe in the superiority of Islam?

Out of that entire post, this is the only point that you seem to have against my original post that Senegal gives us a view into how Islam doesn't automatically mean radicalism. And it's wrong. You don't understand the culture there, obviously, or you would never make such blanket, racist statements.

I'm not a Muslim apologist by any means, but I will react against the bullshit of you and others who seek to label an entire populace without ever knowing a Muslim yourself. You've never been to Senegal, and you don't know dick about Islam except that you hate it. If I don't bow to your brown fear I think independent, rational people will understand.

And it doesn't matter if it's McCarthyism, Terrorism, The War on Us, or Global Warming. You fear-mongers are all the same. Extreme in your view, without the slightest pause to understand your subject matter other than to hate and fear it, and everyone who doesn't cow-tow to your racist, elitist, superfluous bullshit.

The fact that you try to pull in completely unrelated arguments from other threads, shows you don't have shit. You wanna cry about my whipping your ass over your bulldog fallacies, do it in the right thread, bitch.

P N Dr Lo R says

No we wouldn't because we don't miss what we've never had. We don't miss today the marvels people may have 50 years from now. People in their 50's in the 50's, as my parents were, had seen nothing but a steady line of improvement their entire lives. New houses built in the 1950's with their built-ins and central heat and air are still usable today with proper maintenance. Compared to what had existed even just ten years earlier was so far advanced as to not be comparable. Comparing the 50's home to one 50 years earlier, 1905, the same difference between the 60's and today, with its wood stove, gas lighting or very rudimentary electric lighting, no radio or TV, probably no telephone, no refrigeration for food, limited sanitary conditions was like comparing life in the 50's to the 19th century. That generation saw more progress than any in human history. The Internet would be roughly equivalent to radio (1920...

Reality says

Due to that reason, historically immigrants with low living standard expectations and willing to work hard for a relative pittance in pay tended to benefit their new host country. Whereas today's Middle East immigrants looking forward to receiving welfare while not "taking any jobs" from the native population are actually far worse! What a lot of people don't understand is that: willing to do a job for less actually creates jobs (just like technology, because the money consumers save can be spent on new real economic demand) whereas welfare that has to be paid by taxes actually cost far more jobs!

Great points here.

The period 1950-1970s was the greatest explosion in living standards in human history.

In brief response to comments 42&43 about Islam and Senegal: Senegal prohibits blasphemy nationwide, as per Sharia, as per Islam. As in most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims in Senegal demand Sharia, as per Islam. The population of Senegal exceeds 15 million, so no one person could ever meet a representative sample. Comments here show much of what "NuttBoxer" says about Islam is demonstrably wrong. When proven wrong, a willfully ignorant person (for example one who refuses to learn the difference between anecdotes and statistics), gets angry and tries to retaliate instead of learning. Examples include making false allegations including especially racism, and using profanity and name-calling:

NuttBoxer says

curious2 says

Of course, if you were in Senegal, you could be silenced from claiming that Christianity is just as good as Islam. Would that make you believe in the superiority of Islam?

Out of that entire post, this is the only point that you seem to have against my original post that Senegal gives us a view into how Islam doesn't automatically mean radicalism. And it's wrong. You don't understand the culture there, obviously, or you would never make such blanket, racist statements.

I'm not a Muslim apologist by any means, but I will react against the bullshit of you and others who seek to label an entire populace without ever knowing a Muslim yourself. You've never been to Senegal, and you don't know dick about Islam except that you hate it. If I don't bow to your brown fear I think independent, rational people will understand.

And it doesn't matter if it's McCarthyism, Terrorism, The War on Us, or Global Warming. You fear-mongers are all the same. Extreme in your view, without the slightest pause to understand your subject matter other than to hate and fear it, and everyone who doesn't cow-tow to your racist, elitist, superfluous bullshit.

NuttBoxer says

The fact that you try to pull in completely unrelated arguments from other threads, shows you don't have shit. You wanna cry about my whipping your ass over your bulldog fallacies, do it in the right thread, bitch.