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War Between North Korea and the United States Is Inevitable


               
2017 Sep 20, 4:34am   47,975 views  154 comments

by ohomen171   follow (2)  

War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.
I promised myself that I would not watch the Ken Burns series Vietnam. After all, I had four friends killed there and some friends wounded. A Purple Heart certificate sits on the wall in my study. I broke the promise to myself. I watched the first two episode of the series yesterday. I focused on how four U.S. presidents saw Vietnam. Let me summarize what I saw:
President Eisenhower: He gave France hundreds of millions of dollars in support to keep them fighting in Vietnam. At one point, he was financing 80% of France's costs to fight the war. France had over 100,000 casualties in Vietnam. President Eisenhower would not send US troops. He decided that the war was unwinnable.
President Kennedy: One quote in the show was most telling as follows:
“These people don't like us. But if Vietnam falls to the Communists, I will lose the 1964 election.”
At the John F. Kennedy Library, I purchased a book: Vietnam Had Kennedy Lived. This is some heavy reading and quite scholarly. The conclusion is that Kennedy would have stayed in Vietnam until after the 1964 election and then started to wind down US involvement even if the North Vietnamese won.
President Johnson: Despite his humble background and education, Johnson's biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin described him as a political genius. Johnson believed in The Domino Theory. In other words, if South Vietnam fell, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc. would follow.
President Nixon: Alan Greenspan described Nixon as a dark and troubled man with a brilliant mind. President Nixon was a master of foreign affairs. He too believed in the Domino Theory.
With Johnson and Nixon strong believers in the Domino Theory, it was inevitable that Vietnam would be a long and a bloody war for the USA. North Vietnam won at the cost of some 3.25 million people killed. 20% of their territory is a “no man's land” due to land mines and poisonous chemicals. After the Vietnam war ended in 1975, an additional 50,000 Vietnamese civilians were killed by land mines and unexploded ordinance.
Let us go to the present. Everyone thinks that Donald Trump is wild and irresponsible. Even if Hillary Clinton or Mike Pence were president, a war with North Korea would be inevitable. It would escalate to a nuclear conflict. The mindset is there as it was in Vietnam. It will start with some mistake or misunderstanding. It will quickly escalate into a nuclear exchange because that sort of firepower will be needed to destroy North Korea's military capabilities.
Let me expose some fallacies as follows:
1) Kim Jung Un and his senior management team are phantoms hiding in heavily-fortified bunkers all the time. Wrong, they do appear in public. Rest assured that the following countries have “eyes on” Kim and his management team 24 hours a-day seven days a week:
The US
Japan
South Korea
China
Israel (Due to fear of North Korea sharing its nuclear technology with Iran.)
The dream of all these countries would be a stealth drone strike that would kill Kim Jung Un and his management team. If this happened the country would collapse.
2) Massive nuclear weapons will have to be employed with casualties in the range of 25 million plus. Nuclear weapons will be employed to “take out” military targets. My educated guess is one million casualties.
3) South Korea and Japan will be heavily damaged. There will be some casualties and damage in South Korea and Japan. China should be very concerned. When things get really irrational, North Korean nuclear weapons and poison gas might be used against China.
What will follow will be a temporary fall in world financial markets with a nasty recession to follow. Violent protests will erupt all over the world. These protests will make the Vietnam War protests seem pale in comparison.

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150   PeopleUnited   2024 Nov 20, 10:31am  

RWSGFY says

ANY NEWS FROM THE BATTLEFIELD?!!!

Russia now occupies around 20% of Ukrainian territory — a vast swathe of the eastern Donbas region, and by some estimates, President Vladimir Putin's forces are gaining ground faster than at any time since the early stages of the war.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-war-ukraine-vladimir-putin-nato-us-weapons-glide-bombs/
151   Eric_Holder   2025 Jan 30, 5:06pm  

PeopleUnited says


Russia now occupies around 20% of Ukrainian territory


... and NoKo troops are fighting Ukrainian army in Kursk oblast it annexed back in August.

The prediction didn't pan out exactly but it's getting close.
152   stereotomy   2025 Jan 31, 10:47am  

I guess Elena is too busy to solve this geopolitical kerfuffle.
153   RWSGFY   2025 Feb 1, 8:44am  

Aaaand they're kicked out of freshly-annexed by Ukraine Kursk oblast.

You can thank Mr.Zelensky and his troops for averting THE WAR BETWEEN US AND NOKO!

North Korean Troops Withdraw From Ukraine Amid Heavy Losses

The withdrawal reflects the harsh realities faced by North Korean forces unprepared for modern warfare.

North Korean troops have seemingly withdrawn from the front lines near Kursk, Russia, raising questions about their effectiveness and the impact on the war as of February 2025.

Reports indicate it has been at least two weeks since they were last seen, according to multiple sources, including Ukrainian Colonel Oleksandr Kindratenko.

Colonel Kindratenko, who is involved with Ukrainian forces fighting in the Kursk region, stated, "Probably they have been forced to withdraw after suffering heavy losses." This remark highlights the harsh realities facing these soldiers who were brought to aid Russian efforts against Ukraine.

North Korean soldiers were initially deployed to help the Russians as they sought to reclaim territory from Ukraine. The deployment took place last November, with these troops receiving only limited training from Russian commanders. Hans van Koningsbrugge, the director of the Center for Russian Studies, explained, "It is this, or completely melting on the battlefield." Clearly, the issues surrounding their operational readiness were staggering.

Eyewitness accounts and videos have painted the North Koreans as primarily used as 'cannon fodder.' Reports detail desperate tactics where groups of soldiers charged Ukrainian positions without proper cover, exposing them to devastating counterattacks. Generals have assessed significant losses; figures suggest half of the North Korean contingent may have suffered injuries or fatalities. One commanding officer, Oleksandr Syrsky, explained, "They are only prepared for warfare from the 1980s," pointing out the vast chasm between modern strategies and their historical military doctrine.

These troops' preparations—or lack thereof—have been noted frequently, especially since North Korea has not engaged in significant warfare over the last seventy years. Van Koningsbrugge remarked, "You should not forget, North Korea has not fought any wars for seventy years," stressing their unfamiliarity with contemporary battlefields, including the increasing relevance of drone warfare.

Recent encounters have led to captured North Korean soldiers expressing confusion about their surroundings and goals. One soldier, recorded via bodycam footage from the Ukrainian side, was witnessed screaming the name of Kim Jong-un before taking his life with a grenade as he faced capture. This tragic incident reflects the indoctrinated spirit of self-sacrifice instilled within the North Korean military.

For Russian President Vladimir Putin, the struggle to manage the front lines continues to be a headache. Ukrainian forces made strategic advancements last August by breaching the border, reclaiming over 1,000 square kilometers of Russian territory. Despite suffering setbacks, President Volodymyr Zelensky remains adamant about leveraging this region as bargaining power for any future negotiations.

Last reported attempts by Russian forces to pressure the Ukrainians out of Kursk have not been fully successful, and the failure to maintain their North Korean allies speaks volumes about the current state of the conflict. Reports from South Korean and Ukrainian intelligence agencies suggest North Korea is preparing to send more troops, indicating this military partnership's complexity.

To date, both international observers and analysts are left to contemplate the impact of North Korea's military ineffectiveness and what this might mean for future engagements between these two nations. The broader strategic dynamics at play underline not only the practical limitations of the North Korean forces but also highlight how the nature of modern warfare continues to evolve, presenting challenges to those still rooted in outdated methodologies.

https://evrimagaci.org/tpg/north-korean-troops-withdraw-from-ukraine-amid-heavy-losses-176217#google_vignette
154   MolotovCocktail   2025 Feb 1, 8:55am  

RWSGFY says

Aaaand they're kicked out of freshly-annexed by Ukraine Kursk oblast.

You can thank Mr.Zelensky and his troops for averting THE WAR BETWEEN US AND NOKO!


Bullshit until proven otherwise.

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