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Hurricane Irma: Strongest ever Atlantic storm causes 'major damage' in Caribbean - latest news


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2017 Sep 6, 10:28am   26,912 views  128 comments

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Another once in 500 years storm. I guess we're experience time dilation, not climate change.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/us/irma-florida-latest/index.html
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121   Dan8267   2017 Sep 19, 4:15pm  

Only an idiot thinks that the measurable increase in severity of hurricanes is unfounded. Scientists are damn good at what they do. They are certainly better at science than a random Internet idiot.
122   Y   2017 Sep 19, 5:41pm  

Who said that?
Dan8267 says
Only an idiot thinks that the measurable increase in severity of hurricanes is unfounded
123   Y   2017 Sep 19, 5:42pm  

If the locusts go rabid on us its all over...

anonymous says
Anyone else notice there was a major earthquake in Mexico today the same time Maria is doing it's thing and when Irma was churning, there was a major earthquake in Mexico. Coincidence or something more ?
124   Dan8267   2017 Sep 19, 9:13pm  

anonymous says
Coincidence or something more ?


Hurricanes are heat engines and heat is, by definition, increased with global warming. It's not hard to follow that trail. The laws of thermodynamics demand that global warming makes hurricanes more severe.

Earthquakes are caused by plate tectonics, which have nothing to do with global warming. False comparison.
125   Onvacation   2017 Sep 20, 6:20am  

Dan8267 says
said Mann.

Mann and his hockeystick have been debunked

".Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination."
126   anonymous   2017 Sep 20, 7:14am  

https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/906881395057844225Dan8267 says

You showed no such thing.


OMFG Do you have reading comprehension issues? I gave you a list of storms stronger than Irma, but you simply ignore it. Here it is again:

1969 Camille, 2005 Katrina, 1992 Andrew, 1886 Indianola, 1919 Floria Keys, 1928 Lake. The list is not from a newspaper -- it is from a twit by Philip Klotzbach, Meteorologist at CSU specializing in Atlantic basin seasonal hurricane forecasts. It is not from a journalist, it is as direct from a scientists as we can possibly get.
https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/906881395057844225
the exact text copy and pasted without edit from the title of the CNN article linked at the time of the original post.

Even your fucking Fox News


My Fox News. LOL. I don't watch either FN or CNN, but answer this. You love to exclaim "Science FFS!" -- how come you rely only on the quotes journalists who intefviewed scientists give you, rather than actually reading official scientific reports? NOAA says -- on their official website -- that there is no evidence to link hurricanes and climate change. Which makes all your newspaper references irrelevant.

Come to think of it, there is a patter here. All those climate scientists talk with absolute certainty about Very Bad Things that Will Happen only in interviews. When it comes to papers or offical reports, they are far more cautious, surrounding their predicitions with weasel words, if making them at all.
127   Dan8267   2017 Sep 21, 4:35pm  

anonymous says
A groundbreaking study shows that earthquakes, including the recent 2010 temblors in Haiti and Taiwan, may be triggered by tropical cyclones.


That's news to me. I haven't heard of the study. If studies can prove the link or provide substantial evidence for it, then fine, but I'll remain skeptical by default until then.
128   Dan8267   2017 Sep 21, 4:43pm  

I just read the article on the study.

Very wet rain events are the trigger," said Wdowinski, associate research professor of marine geology and geophysics at the UM Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science. "The heavy rain induces thousands of landslides and severe erosion, which removes ground material from the Earth's surface, releasing the stress load and encouraging movement along faults."


The hypothesis is that heavy rains cause surface material to move off some fault lines lessening the weight holding down the plates along those fault lines, and causing the earthquake to come sooner rather than later. This is sort of like loosing the grip of a vice preventing two magnets with like sides facing each other from separating.

Even if this hypothesis is true, it is not necessarily a bad thing for two reasons.
1. This might not increase the number of earthquakes but simply cause them to happen sooner rather than later.
2. If this does increase the number of earthquakes, then it should also decrease the severity of those earthquakes because the potential energy is being more often and won't build up as much. Lots of small earthquakes is better than a few large earthquakes.

However, based on what the article says, I doubt this is at all significant as the hypothesis only applies to a narrow set of fault lines.

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