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1   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 12, 9:18am  

I like the way you think Hype new prisons so illegals will quit coming over. Good thinking!

2   Dan8267   2017 May 12, 10:24am  

The for profit prison industry, whether private or public, is one of the greatest moral failings of our country.

3   CBOEtrader   2017 May 12, 10:33am  

The drug war, and its resulting over population of prisons should NOT be a partisan issue. It doesnt work. It will never work. It only creates blood money for rich people.

4   marcus   2017 May 12, 10:33am  

The Holder memo, issued in August 2013, instructed his prosecutors to avoid charging certain defendants with drug offenses that would trigger long mandatory minimum sentences. Defendants who met a set of criteria such as not belonging to a large-scale drug trafficking organization, gang or cartel, qualified for lesser charges — and in turn less prison time — under Holder’s policy.

Civil liberties advocates at the time praised the move as appropriately merciful — potentially preventing people from facing lifelong penalties for crimes that did not warrant such a punishment. But Sessions’s new charging policy, outlined in a two-page memo and sent to more than 5,000 assistant U.S. attorneys across the country and all assistant attorneys general in Washington, orders prosecutors to “charge and pursue the most serious, readily provable offense” and rescinds Holder’s policy immediately.

Why ? Is this for the prison industrial complex, big pharma or both ?

5   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 12, 10:42am  

marcus says

Why ?

I think it reflects the philosophical views of the men in charge. But the private prison company stock went up shortly after the election, so speculate away.

6   Strategist   2017 May 12, 10:50am  

YesYNot says

The way to make America great again is clearly to put more Americans behind bars.

Even better to put criminals underground. That way we don't have to feed them.

7   Strategist   2017 May 12, 10:53am  

Dan8267 says

The for profit prison industry, whether private or public, is one of the greatest moral failings of our country.

Who cares as long as wild criminals are not walking the streets. The welfare of criminals is last on my list.

8   marcus   2017 May 12, 10:55am  

Strategist says

The welfare of criminals is last on my list.

Until you're declared a criminal, becasue you're inconveniencing someone with power.

We're not there yet, but we already have too many people with long sentences for non-violent crimes.

9   CBOEtrader   2017 May 12, 11:11am  

YesYNot says

marcus says

Why ?

I think it reflects the philosophical views of the men in charge. But the private prison company stock went up shortly after the election, so speculate away.

Im sure analysts had carefully considered which industries would thrive under each possible president. If you recall, Healthcare stocks went zulu after Obama's election in 2012, and for good reason given how Obamacare enriched them.

Strategist says

Who cares as long as wild criminals are not walking the streets. The welfare of criminals is last on my list.

Redefining criminal behavior so it cuts through wide swath of poor people's normal behavior, like smoking weed instead of drinking, is a huge problem. Noone should go to prison if they didnt steal or put someone at risk of physical harm. Getting high is neither of these. If someone gets high and stabs someone, or drives his car into another car, thats different.

10   Strategist   2017 May 12, 11:13am  

marcus says

Strategist says

The welfare of criminals is last on my list.

Until you're declared a criminal, becasue your inconveniencing someone with power.

We're not there yet, but we already have too many people with long sentences for non-violent crimes.

If i was a criminal, the welfare of criminals would be on the top of my list, simply because I would become biased.
Until then, why would i give a damn for criminals? There are more important things in life to worry about.

11   Strategist   2017 May 12, 11:14am  

CBOEtrader says

Strategist says

Who cares as long as wild criminals are not walking the streets. The welfare of criminals is last on my list.

Redefining criminal behavior so it cuts through wide swath of poor people's normal behavior, like smoking weed instead of drinking, is a huge problem. Noone should go to prison if they didnt steal or put someone at risk of physical harm. Getting high is neither of these. If someone gets high and stabs someone, or drives his car into another car, thats different.

Smoking a joint should not be a crime. It's the hard core violent criminals that are the true criminals as far as i am concerned.

12   CBOEtrader   2017 May 12, 11:17am  

Strategist says

Smoking a joint should not be a crime. It's the hard core violent criminals that are the true criminals as far as i am concerned.

This article is about drug offenders. People caught in possession of coke or herione 3 times can go to prison for a large portion of their lifetime. Does that sound like freedom?

13   CBOEtrader   2017 May 12, 11:18am  

CBOEtrader says

Strategist says

Smoking a joint should not be a crime. It's the hard core violent criminals that are the true criminals as far as i am concerned.

This article is about drug offenders. People caught in possession of coke or herione 3 times can go to prison for a large portion of their lifetime. Does that sound like freedom?

Also, under Bush, a small amount of weed (more than a quarter oz i think?) counted as a strike. So a habitual weed smoker could have been imprisoned for many years.

14   Dan8267   2017 May 12, 12:02pm  

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

The for profit prison industry, whether private or public, is one of the greatest moral failings of our country.

Who cares as long as wild criminals are not walking the streets. The welfare of criminals is last on my list.

Let's outlaw golf. Trump is now a criminal. He should be taken off the street.

Most incarcerations have nothing to do with bad behavior. Most prisoners are incarcerated because republicans decided to prevent minorities from voting by criminalizing drug use for specific drugs used more commonly by minorities and by very selectively enforcing drug laws. In effect, all the people incarcerated for drug offenses are political prisoners in every sense of the term.

America should not have political prisoners. Political prisoners are not real criminals, not in the sense you are using the term. You are equating these political prisoners to murderers and rapists, and that's wrong.

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