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joeyjojojunior says

You're wrong. Give it up.

you, nor anyone else has shown any evidence to the contrary. You are having a fever dream sold to you by CNN and NYT. Believe a fantasy if you want.

joeyjojojunior says

Talk about a total idiot.

So...you know more than James Clapper how?

CBOEtrader says

you, nor anyone else has shown any evidence to the contrary. You are having a fever dream sold to you by CNN and NYT. Believe a fantasy if you want.

I have provided links and quotes from Comey. And, for the record, I'm not saying the investigation will ever find a smoking gun of collusion between Trump and Russia. Only that some evidence of it exists and there absolutely IS an investigation currently underway of the Trump Administration ties to Russia. I have provided links showing the evidence and a quote from the former FBI director stating unequivocally that the FBI is investigating the Trump Administration.

CBOEtrader says

So...you know more than James Clapper how?

Once again you can't follow the logic. I am not saying there is proved collusion. Only that we don't know. Clapper has been out of the loop for long enough that he wasn't even aware of the FBI investigation so him saying he knew of no collusion is not surprising. He wouldn't know.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/11/senate-judiciary-chairman-confirms-trump-is-not-under-fbi-investigation/

That debate is now settled. Trump is not under investigation. Read it and weep jojo!

Quigley says

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/11/senate-judiciary-chairman-confirms-trump-is-not-under-fbi-investigation/

That debate is now settled. Trump is not under investigation. Read it and weep jojo!

yeah... this isnt even a controversial point.

joeyjojojunior says

I have provided links and quotes from Comey

that did not in any way support your claim.

"That debate is now settled. Trump is not under investigation. Read it and weep jojo!"

I did read it and the actual transcript doesn't say what Breitbart claims. Did you follow the link? Nowhere does anyone say Trump is not under investigation. At best, it implies it.

"that did not in any way support your claim."

Of course they did. My claim is that the FBI is investigating Trump Administration ties to Russia. And Comey said exactly that.

joeyjojojunior says

My claim is that the FBI is investigating Trump Administration ties to Russia.

Comey didnt say that. You are lying.

It's just getting sad

"It's just getting sad"

Just getting? It's been sad for a long time and this thread shows it plainly for anyone who has any last remnant of critical thinking ability left.

The Trumpbots are forced to split the most ridiculous hairs to try to have any defensible position on the Comey firing. And argue against things that are well accepted facts.

Spill the beans...

joeyjojojunior says

And argue against things that are well accepted facts.

joeyjojojunior says

The Trumpbots are forced to split the most ridiculous hairs to try to have any defensible position on the Comey firing.

Defensible? Why would anyone be defensible. Trump is the boss, he can fire whomever he chooses for whatever the reasons he chooses. He fired Comey, I don't care why he fired him. I sure do remember Democrats constantly screaming that Comey should be fired when he was investigating "Hillary", and now they quickly switched their tune after he was fired. Hypocritical leftist crap is all I see.

"He fired Comey, I don't care why he fired him. I sure do remember Democrats constantly screaming that Comey should be fired when he was investigating "Hillary", and now they quickly switched their tune after he was fired"

Who switched their tune? Can you provide some names and quotes? Dems are saying the timing is fishy.

How did this thread get -28 in the like/unlike category?

Someone was triggered?

joeyjojojunior says

Just getting? It's been sad for a long time and this thread shows it plainly for anyone who has any last remnant of critical thinking ability left.

is this a shred of honest self reflection we are seeing in JoJo?

joeyjojojunior says

Dems are saying the timing is fishy.

Trump should have 1)Fired comey, or 2)Not fired comey?

There's only two possible answers.

YesYNot says

How did this thread get -28 in the like/unlike category?

@Patrick - Good Question!

joeyjojojunior says

Who switched their tune? Can you provide some names and quotes? Dems are saying the timing is fishy.

You keep asking for quotes. There has been abundant quotes just in this one post which is pretty much every Dem Leader, also John Podesta, Olberman, and other Dem Media/Activist screenshots of "Before and After".

Can't find my other post, but I repeat this article:

Here are some criticisms of Comey by Democrats (and one independent) before he was fired:

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York

"I do not have confidence in him any longer," Schumer told Bloomberg on Nov. 2.

"To restore my faith, I am going to have to sit down and talk to him and get an explanation for why he did this," he added.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California

"Maybe he's not in the right job," she said to CNN on Nov. 2. "I think that we have to just get through this election and just see what the casualties are along the way."

Pelosi continued that Comey's letter to Congress about the review of Clinton's emails was a "mistake."

Former Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada

In October, Reid suggested Comey's actions "demonstrated a disturbing double standard for the treatment of sensitive information" and may have violated "the Hatch Act, which bars FBI officials from using their official authority to influence an election," in a letter to the director.

Reid wrote that he has "been a supporter" of Comey's and "led the fight" to get him confirmed, as he believed Comey was a "principled public servant."

"With the deepest regret, I now see that I was wrong," Reid added.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

Sanders told ABC News just before Trump's inauguration that it "would not be a bad thing for the American people" if Comey stepped down.

"I think that Comey acted in an outrageous way during the campaign," said Sanders. "No one can say that this was decisive or this is what elected Trump, but clearly his behavior during the campaign in terms of what he said during the week or two before the election was unacceptable."

At the time, Sanders decried that there was no investigation into possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, a situation that has changed.

Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee

In October, Cohen called on Comey to "resign his position effective immediately."

"If Director Comey cares about the bureau and the rule of law … I'm sure upon reflection of this action, he will submit his letter of resignation for the nation's good," Cohen wrote.

He bashed Comey's letter as "plainly premature, careless and unprecedented."

"Trump should have 1)Fired comey, or 2)Not fired comey? There's only two possible answers."

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Most smart people can see nuance and don't live in a black or white world

Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York

"The president can fire him for cause and ought to. He violated all the guidelines and put his thumb on the scale of an election. Whether it was decisive or not is a different question," Nadler told CNN on Nov. 14.

Rep. Maxine Waters of California

"All I can tell you is the FBI director has no credibility. That's it," Waters told reporters after leaving a Jan. 13 classified briefing on Russia's meddling in the 2016 election.

In an interview with MSNBC on Wednesday, she argued that Trump should not have fired Comey in the middle of the Russia probe and as a result "basically has interfered with an investigation where he may be implicated."

Waters added, "If [Clinton] had won the White House, I believe that, given what he did to her and what he tried to do, she should have fired him."

Rep. Hank Johnson of Georgia

"My confidence in the FBI director's ability to lead this agency has been shaken," said Johnson, after the Jan. 13 closed-door briefing on the Russia investigation for House members.

In a statement released Wednesday, he called Comey's firing "unwarranted" and argued it "suggests an attempt to squelch an investigation in an effort to cover up wrongdoing."

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida

"I think Director Comey has taken enough actions that call into question his ability to continue to serve credibly," she said during a CNN appearance on Jan. 17. "I would lean in the direction that he no longer is able to serve in a neutral and credible way."

After Comey's firing, Wasserman Schultz, a former chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, said that it was "a dark day for justice in America."

"You keep asking for quotes. There has been abundant quotes just in this one post which is pretty much every Dem Leader, also John Podesta, Olberman, and other Dem Media/Activist screenshots of "Before and After".

Can't find my other post, but I repeat this article"

OK--but who switched their tune?? I see no quotes saying Comey shouldn't have been fired. That's what I'm asking for. You keep claiming people changed. All I see if people who dislike the way Comey handled the Clinton investigation. I don't see anyone saying Comey is great--he shouldn't have been fired.

The Democrats expressed disappointment to the point of encouraging Obama to get rid of Comey, calling for his resignation, and otherwise suggesting he was unfit for his office.

Now, they are angry he got fired.

There's no pivot to spin on here. At best they were skeptical of Comey, others wanted him to resign or be fired. Now most of these same people are screaming that he was fired.

The FBI Director serves at the pleasure of the President.

The 10-year term is not to protect the FBI, but the Politicians against another Hoover - that no matter what, and FBI Director can only serve for 10 years. So even if they get the dirt on everybody like the Canadian Crossdresser, they still can't do more than 10 years.

joeyjojojunior says

"Trump should have 1)Fired comey, or 2)Not fired comey? There's only two possible answers."

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Most smart people can see nuance and don't live in a black or white world

No, trump had two choices. What should trump have done? What would you have done in his situation?

Your lack of a right vs wrong choice proves trump can do nothing right in your eyes. This is pure hysteria w zero factual support.

Or try telling us what trump should have done different.

joeyjojojunior says

I see no quotes saying Comey shouldn't have been fired.

Do you think he should have been fired?

Jojo is just trolling now. Classic asking for evidence, ignoring or criticizing the evidence or asking for additional evidence when a simple google search would educate him plenty.
Jojo, go get an education and come back when you're more informed and less stupid.

https://twitter.com/Pamela_Moore13/status/862107590003748864

CNN: Do you have evidence of Trump administration/Russia collusion?
Democrat Senator: We have none at this time.
CNN: Well I know the investigation is continuing... thanks for talking to us.

CNN is fake news. There is zero evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. Every single authority to answer that question directly has said the same thing. "WE HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION."

Quigley says

Jojo is just trolling now.

Like a lot of hillary bots, his ego is tied into this russia narrative. Otherwise they'd have to admit they are playing on the wrong side...This is a level of realism they simply can not fathom. Its easier to believe in a Russian boogeyman, than admit they arent the morally righteous team.

This is what happens when every MSM outlet becomes a propaganda mouthpiece for the establishment.

The sooner these tards wake up the sooner we can MAGA.

"Now, they are angry he got fired"

They are?? This is what I've been asking for repeatedly. Please show me one Dem. Congressman or woman who is quoted saying they are disappointed Comey got fired.

Not disappointed at the timing, but genuinely disappointed that he got fired at all.

"No, trump had two choices"

Ridiculous. There are always other choices. Trump could have fired him 100 days ago. That's another choice.

joeyjojojunior says

"Now, they are angry he got fired"

Learn to use the quote button. Your posts are difficult to decipher w/o knowing who you are quoting.

joeyjojojunior says

Not disappointed at the timing, but genuinely disappointed that he got fired at all.

This is a difference without distinction.

"Do you think he should have been fired?"

I think he bungled the Clinton investigation for certain. But I don't know if that was a one off or if there was systematic failings in the FBI that were Comey's fault. So, I'm certainly not close enough to the situation to make that call.

"This is a difference without distinction."

Obviously I would use the quote button if it worked. It is a huge difference with a huge distinction. The fact that you cannot grasp it is your failing, not mine.

"CNN is fake news. There is zero evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. Every single authority to answer that question directly has said the same thing. "WE HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION.""

Then why is anyone afraid of a true investigation that would clear Trump once and for all? Let's get a special prosecutor that can put this to bed! Why don't any Republicans want this?

joeyjojojunior says

Trump could have fired him 100 days ago. That's another choice.

You would rather Trump fire him before any of his administration is even approved? Before he has a chance to seek the advise of his team?

Total nonsense. Also, the way comey continued to make the same mistakes AND righteously defended them a few days before he was fired is a big deal. Comey was dangerous, he was sloppy, and he was egotistical. We dont have time for that.

Firing Comey was the easy decision. Tapping his replacement is the tough choice.

"Jojo is just trolling now. Classic asking for evidence, ignoring or criticizing the evidence or asking for additional evidence when a simple google search would educate him plenty.
Jojo, go get an education and come back when you're more informed and less stupid."

lol---I'm the troll? If a simple google search would give me what I'm asking for--why haven't you or anyone else done it?

"You would rather Trump fire him before any of his administration is even approved?"

What does it matter whether any of his administration is approved? He didn't like the way the Clinton investigation was handled, so fire him then. Why wait 100+ days?

joeyjojojunior says

Let's get a special prosecutor that can put this to bed!

Remember when Trump mentioned his judge may not be unbiased, and the MSM went crazy? Why do you think it's ok to question the system now?

You dont get to create special processes when things look like they arent going your way.

Regardless, a prosecution requires evidence. We currently have none.

joeyjojojunior says

lol---I'm the troll? If a simple google search would give me what I'm asking for--why haven't you or anyone else done it?

You want us to find evidence of no evidence? If you claim there is evidence, its your job to show your links. So far, you posted one misinterpreted quote from Comey wherein he says he is investigating Russia.