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FortWayne says

Where is liberal outrage when it's needed?

Why just liberals? All politicians are the same crooked politicians. None of them deserve any pension.

FortWayne says

Where is liberal outrage when it's needed?

Strategist says

Why just liberals? All politicians are the same crooked politicians. None of them deserve any pension.

A rare occasion when Strategist and I agree. In any case, politicians should not be allowed to set their own compensation. Also, they should not be exempt from insider trading laws. There is much outrage here.

Strategist says

Why just liberals?

Because they are the once who scream that they are out there protecting the little guy, and yet when the little guy gets fucked by politicians who raised all our retirement ages (except for federal workers, who are on FERS and not on SS) there is nothing, just crickets.... And Obama signed it too.

FortWayne says

Because they are the once who scream that they are out there protecting the little guy

Give me fiat and I'll completely remove all compensation for senators and make it illegal for them to own stock while in office.

P.S. Obama isn't a liberal, you dumb ass.

Dan8267 says

Obama isn't a liberal, you dumb ass.

Yes he is. Pro drugs, pro homosexual marriage, anti 2nd amendment, anti social security, that's pretty much a card carrying liberal these days.

FortWayne says

Government cocksuckers who retire at 50-62 raised your retirement age to 70.

I'm sure there are plenty of liberal politicians and wonks who are in favor of raising retirement ages, and plenty who are not.

I'm even more sure that nearly all conservative politicians advocate raising the retirement age.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Why just liberals? All politicians are the same crooked politicians. None of them deserve any pension.

A rare occasion when Strategist and I agree. In any case, politicians should not be allowed to set their own compensation. Also, they should not be exempt from insider trading laws. There is much outrage here.

There goes my reputation.

When did the SS retirement age get raised to 70?

YesYNot says

When did the SS retirement age get raised to 70?

It didn't, ft wayne makes lots of things up. I notice he didn't document who voted on the congressional retirement plan other than "liberals". or ever document anything he says for that matter.

He must have missed the republican debate where they were talking about how they would like to raise the qualifying age. The liberal (Bernie) was in another debate talking about expanding social security, and posting such plans on his web site.
Maybe Ft. Wayne doesn't have a TV and hasn't figured out how to access a news web site.

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

Obama isn't a liberal, you dumb ass.

Yes he is. Pro drugs, pro homosexual marriage, anti 2nd amendment, anti social security, that's pretty much a card carrying liberal these days.

You are a dumb ass. You don't get to just label someone you dislike a "liberal" even when his actions are completely against all liberal principles.

Saying that Obama is pro-drugs is utterly retarded. The facts blatantly contradict that.

If Obama was simply against the criminalization of drugs, those arrest stats would be near zero.

Obama only became in favor of marriage equality -- something that only scumbags oppose -- when it became clear that opposing it puts you on the wrong side of history. Obama opposed same-sex marriage as recently as 2004 based on fucking religious reasons.

During his U.S. Senate campaign in 2004, Barack Obama was asked by a local Illinois reporter about his stand on same-sex marriage.

Candidate Obama said he did not support it and that the institution of marriage has “religious roots” and “strong tradition” and as such is important to Americans.

“I have been very clear on this,” Obama told a television reporter at a Springfield, Ill., campaign event. “I have said I am not a supporter of gay marriage.

“I think the term marriage itself has strong religious roots and a strong tradition that means something special to people in this country,” Obama said.

Calling a person who said that a liberal is like calling the Nazis Zionists.

Furthermore, in 2012 Obama said

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.

I'm all for people changing their minds when new information comes along, but no new information about same-sex marriage or homosexuality came along between 2008 and 2012. The only thing that changed was that popular opinion shifted and reached a tipping point. For Obama to now support marriage equality is just bandwagon jumping and does not make him a liberal. I supported equality including marriage equality under law my entire adult life going back to the 1990s when no one was even talking about it. Any truly liberal person does not base his support of civil and human rights upon how popular such rights are.

As for Social Security, first off that's not a social issue, but an economic one, and is therefore not related to liberalism. Yeah, Social Security has the word "social" in it just like Federal Express has the word "federal" in it, but that doesn't make Federal Express part of the federal government. Social Security is purely economic policy and is therefore not addressed by liberalism. I've explained this to your dumb ass five hundred times. Liberalism is a social philosophy, not an economic one, and liberals ascribe to many different economic philosophies.

Second, to say that Obama is against Social Security is fucking retarded.

“Here’s the truth: Medicare and Social Security are not in crisis, nor have they kept us from cutting our deficit by two-thirds since I took office,” Mr. Obama said at a White House conference on aging. “We need to keep Social Security strong, protecting its future solvency. And I think there are creative ways to protect its future solvency but also strengthen retirement security for our most vulnerable neighbors. That’s step No. 1.”

Finally, demonstrating once again that you and all conservatives are living in a bubble, for the past eight years you dumb ass conservatives have been claiming that Obama is coming for your guns. Yet, he has done absolutely nothing whatsoever to make it even slightly more difficult for anyone, even felons, crazies, and terrorists, to get a gun. Mass shootings continue to be common thanks to assholes like you who think we need to put refugees through a billion times more screening than someone purchasing pump action shotguns.

The one good thing about the Obama administration is that having a black man in the White House really does piss off conservatives.

Dan8267 says

If Obama was simply against the criminalization of drugs

If you don't arrest and criminilize drugs, you get more of them, you get more ruined lives, you get more drug traffic, more addictions, and more lives ruined. Dan "Just Say No" to drugs.

If you don't arrest and criminalize gun usage, you get more of it. You get more ruined lives. You get more drive-by shootings, more school shootings, more theater shootings, and more lives ruined. Just say no to guns.

Hmmm, don't like the other shoe falling, do you?

Obama not black, he's mulloto.
If you're going to play the race card like a lockstep libbie at least get your primary colors right...
Dan8267 says

The one good thing about the Obama administration is that having a black man in the White House really does piss off conservatives.

Dungeness says

mulloto

So the homophobe is also a racist. Big surprise.

Hey Ft Wayne, we are still waiting for the list of all the liberals who voted for FERS act of 1986. You have it don't you? Nope, no one has it, it was a voice vote. You do remember it was a republican senate that passed FERS 97-1 don't you? You do remember the senate president and president pro tem where a couple guys called George Bush and Strom Thurmond (well know flaming liberal) don't you? Hard core conservative guys like Ted Stevens, Thad Cochran, Jesse Helms, Storm Thurmond, John Warner, and Alan Simpson all voted for it. You said you were old enough to remember the Reagan administration. How come you are so confused on this? You don't remember the debate on this? I do.

How about a list of who voted to raise the social security age with the amendment of 1983, the last time the ss retirement age was raised. Oh wait, I've got it right here. https://www.ssa.gov/history/tally1983.html . My, my let's look at how all those hard line senate conservatives voted. Wait, OMG. What is this, most voted for the amendment? Thurmond, Tower, Helms, etc.. How did that happen? Look who else ended up solidly behind the bill. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2009/04/02/bipartisan-reagan-oneill-social-security-deal-in-1983-showed-it-can-be-done Why it's Ronald Reagan the conservative godhead. Your personal hero. Say it ain't so joe. You did notice the age is increased to 67 not 70 and that's not until 2027. Don't let facts screw you up, luckily they never do.

FortWayne says

. And Obama signed it too.

Obama singed the FERS act of 1986? Really? Was he even out of high school in 1986? How did he do that? Or are you talking about the social security amendment of 1983, which is that last time the retirement age of social security was changed. Damn that Obama was really a frigging busy guy during the Reagan administration. Did Ron know he was sneaking in and signing bills?

It would seem that your talking about ruined lives from drugs based on personal experience. Good thing for you that drug induced paranoid schizophrenia is now treatable.

PCGyver says

Have you ever heard of a country called Portugal?

I don't know much about Portugal. But it's a bullshit argument, because Portual is not US and things aren't better in Portual. And most of the time someone attemps to bullshit an argument how grass is greener across the ocean, is really just bullshitting. Kind of like some guy for a while was screaming how great healthcare is in Cuba, bug ignored the fact that it's a communist dictatorship hell hole that no one wants to live in.

It doesn't work like your pipe dream here. It doesn't.

bob2356 says

Hey Ft Wayne, we are still waiting for the list of all the liberals who voted for FERS act of 1986.

What does that have to do with social security? FERS is what feds get, and they never cut their own income. SS is the only defined benefit we get in a non-government sector.

FortWayne says

bob2356 says

Hey Ft Wayne, we are still waiting for the list of all the liberals who voted for FERS act of 1986.

What does that have to do with social security? FERS is what feds get, and they never cut their own income. SS is the only defined benefit we get in a non-government sector.

You were talking randomly about both. Since your writing is so incomprehensible it isn't clear which is the object of your fixation. Nice you are ignoring what I wrote about social security. That would be the point where any non troll would say oops, I fucked up. Dishonest much? Only everything you post.

Ironman says

Why do you have such an issue with FACTS??? Is Obama a mulatto or not?

Straight from Google

mu·lat·to
m(y)o͝oˈlädō/
dated offensive
noun
noun: mulatto; plural noun: mulattoes; plural noun: mulattos

a person of mixed white and black ancestry, especially a person with one white and one black parent.

So CIC is stating that "Obama is a nigger" is a fact. The racism isn't in the fact but the use of a term whose sole purpose is to dehumanize a person based on arbitrary skin color.

CIC is a vile racist and homophobic bigot. Unfortunately, he's very representative of conservatives and on PatNet you never hear other conservative condemn this scumbag because they agree with him. Conservatism is simply code for inbred racist moron. There is no place for conservatism in the 21st century.

Ironman says

Exactly what does that have to do with the question I asked you?? I'll try again, it's a Yes or No question,

CIC, have you stopped fucking goats yet? It's a yes or no question. Answer yes or no.

Obama is interracial, not a mulatto or a nigger. Plain and simple. The answer is no, you racist little bitch. Now answer your yes or no question.

Ironman says

No really, what the fuck is wrong with you?

I have little patience for small-dick bigots like you.

Ironman says

Mulatto

According to Wikipedia, Mulatto is no longer used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto

The term is generally considered archaic, and may be taken as pejorative, especially in the United States, where "multiracial" and "biracial" are preferred.

Much like nigger and oriental, you just don't go around calling somebody mulatto in this PC culture.

YesYNot says

Much like nigger and oriental, you just don't go around calling somebody mulatto in this PC culture.

Oh yeah, because political correctness is the only reason to not use dehumanizing terms to disparage entire ethnic groups. No other reason whatsoever.

Dan8267 says

No other reason whatsoever.

By pointing it out that way, I was preemptively discouraging some idiot from saying that the PC culture is why we don't use mulatto. It's the same reason we don't use nigger or say a whole bunch of crap that comes out of Trump's mouth.

bob2356 says

Nice you are ignoring what I wrote about social security. That would be the point where any non troll would say oops, I fucked up. Dishonest much?

FWayne - The last time Social Security retirement age was adjusted officially in 1983 when Reagan was president.
I'm wondering what is your response to the factual statements made by bob2356?

Ohhh the georgist called me a racist for using a valid dictionary endorsed word that happens to be borderline non-pc....
Dont you know Non-pc is the new pc...or have you always been this obtuse?

Dan8267 says

Dungeness says

mulloto

So the homophobe is also a racist.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2011/02/halle_berrys_baby_and_the_resurgence_of_the_tragic_mulatto.html

In case you haven't figured it out, mullato derives from mule, which you get from breeding a horse with a donkey. It's offensive.

uomo_senza_nome_0 says

bob2356 says

Nice you are ignoring what I wrote about social security. That would be the point where any non troll would say oops, I fucked up. Dishonest much?

FWayne - The last time Social Security retirement age was adjusted officially in 1983 when Reagan was president.

I'm wondering what is your response to the factual statements made by bob2356?

There will be world peace and an end to global poverty long before ftwayne responds to facts.

To be fully PC complient one would have to add "Libbie" to the mix...

YesYNot says

Much like nigger and oriental, you just don't go around calling somebody mulatto in this PC culture.

Wikipedia is not a dictionary. It's an online unreliable data source updated by anyone and everyone.
Mirriam Webster, however, is an official dictionary site maintained by the strictest standards.

Mirriam's version:
mulatto
noun mu·lat·to \mə-ˈla-(ˌ)tō, mu̇-, myu̇-, -ˈlä-\
Popularity: Bottom 50% of words
Definition of mulatto
plural mu·lat·toes or mu·lat·tos
1
: the first-generation offspring of a black person and a white person
2
: a person of mixed white and black ancestry

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mulatto

You may now continue to "mullatto" to your hearts content...

YesYNot says

According to Wikipedia, Mulatto is no longer used:

My wife is a hapa, which is apparently not offensive because it's a Hawaiian word.
So some racial terms are ok still. Although honestly I'd prefer us to all stop focusing on race and focus more on fixing cultural problems that often follow racial boundaries because of lack of diversity in that culture.

Dungeness says

You may now continue to "mullatto" to your hearts content...

Nigger is in the dictionary too. You can use either, bit don't be ignorant about how it makes you look.

Dan8267 says

So the homophobe is also a racist.

You are the last person who should talk about any of that considering the volumes of gay port you post. The fact that you even have it, speaks volumes about you Dan.

FortWayne says

You are the last person who should talk about any of that considering the volumes of gay port you post. The fact that you even have it, speaks volumes about you Dan.

Your homophobia is so great that you even see hetersexuals as homosexuals. That speaks volumes of you.

With all the deep-set problems in the US and the World, remember the .001% of the population that is suffering a mighty injustice.