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Trump Voter Focus Group run by GOP Consultant. Results shock him.


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2015 Dec 11, 9:46am   2,509 views  7 comments

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It was the most brutal attack ad run against Donald Trump, and it was tanking. Twenty-nine voters, all of whom supported or used to support Trump, watched retired Air Force Col. Tom Moe not so subtly compare the Republican front-runner to Adolf Hitler.

“You might not care if Donald Trump says he’s going to round up all the Hispanic immigrants, because you’re not one,” Moe said onscreen. “You might not care if Donald Trump wants to suppress journalists, because you’re not one. But think about this: If he keeps going, and he actually becomes president, he might just get around to you.”

Frank Luntz, the Republican media consultant who had put together this focus group, watched the dials turn down. On a scale of zero to 100, the ad’s effectiveness never got above 20. It did not help that the ad was produced for Gov. John Kasich (R-Ohio), a presidential candidate no one in the group supported.

“It was too far over the top,” one voter said.

“They use every trick in the book to make him look like the ultimate bad guy,” said another.

“It tried to make Trump look like the new Mussolini,” said one more disgusted voter. “I mean, that ain’t gonna happen.”

Next up was a lengthy compilation of Trump’s attacks on his fellow Republicans, over a pumping, distracting drumbeat. “He sweats more than any young person I’ve ever seen,” Trump said of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). Carly Fiorina talked like a “robot.” Ben Carson was “pathological.” Jeb Bush had “no money” and was “meeting with Mommy and Daddy” for support.

The dials turned higher — because the audience was laughing along with Trump.

“It was like his greatest hits,” said Tiffany Alm, 43, a stay-at-home mom who had moved to the D.C. area from Wisconsin. “It’s Donald Trump, and it’s entertaining.”

Over three hours Wednesday in Alexandria, Luntz lobbed dozens of Trump-seeking missiles. All 29 in the group had voted for Mitt Romney in 2012. All either supported Trump or had supported him earlier in the year. To Luntz’s amazement, hearing negative information about the candidate made the voters, only a few of whom gave their full names to the press, hug the candidate tighter.

“Normally, if I did this for a campaign, I’d have destroyed the candidate by this point,” Luntz told a group of reporters when the session ended. “After three hours of showing that stuff?”

With only two exceptions, the three hours of messaging, venting and friendly arguments revealed the roots of Trump’s support. Participants derided the mainstream media, accusing reporters of covering snippets of Trump quotes when the full context would have validated him. They cited news sources they trusted — Breitbart News was one example — to refute what they were being told.

“You know what Trump does?” said Teresa Collier, a 65-year-old retiree. “He says something completely crazy, and I’m like, ‘Oh, my God!’ Then he dials back and starts explaining it and saying how he’d do it, and it makes sense.”

[It’s not chaos. It’s Donald Trump’s campaign strategy.]

Only eight members of the group disagreed with Trump’s proposal for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States. One of the holdouts said he was hosting an exchange student from Saudi Arabia and did business in that country but could disagree with Trump about Muslims and vote for him anyway.

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Heads were nodding around the room. “I’ve read the Koran,” said Jeff Kelly, 57. “It says what it’s purported to say. I know it says you come across a non-Muslim, you kill him or convert him.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/attacking-trump-just-makes-these-voters-like-him-more/2015/12/10/2de9edf8-9f44-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html

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1   Heraclitusstudent   2015 Dec 11, 10:17am  

BS media getting what they sowed.
Great choice of candidates this year:... a narcissistic egomaniac, an establishment feminist, a socialist...

2   Tenpoundbass   2015 Dec 11, 10:29am  

I don't think that the MSM get's that we're all voting for Trump whether he's running as a Republican or NOT.

And if Loving him is wrong, then we don't want to be right.

3   Tenpoundbass   2015 Dec 11, 10:33am  

bgamall4 says

You are voting for a man who is a demagogue?

If that's what you kids are calling the only sensible person these days. Then SURE! you bechore Ass!

Besides my track record of knowing WHO not to vote for is way better than yours.

So it's my turn.

We'll have to wait and see if I'm as good at picking winners as I am at picking losers.

4   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Dec 11, 11:01am  

Comparing Trump to a fascist is going to backfire with his base supporters. They think that the MSM and Republican establishment is out to get him. But the middle fence riders are more open to the comparison, because it makes sense. He's not Hitler at the peak of his power, but Hitler was giving speeches for a decade before rising to power. It wasn't just Hitler the personality that took over a happy country. It was the combination of crap economic times with a guy like Hitler to give them a voice and direct it. The speeches that Hitler gave were much more complicated and abstract than anything that has come out of Trump's mouth. It would be interesting if someone did an analysis to show the similarities and differences in their speeches. Here's an article stating why Trump is not the next Hitler, and it has to do with the fact that America (2015) is not Germany (1932) more than it has to do with the personality of the Donald.

5   Blurtman   2015 Dec 11, 1:50pm  

thunderlips11 says

“You might not care if Donald Trump says he’s going to round up all the Hispanic immigrants,

This nutter Moe is putting words into Trump's mouth. He did not say round up all Hispanic immigrants. He said round up illegal aliens.

It is astounding how shocked the professional politicians and campaign consultants are about Trump's popularity.

Moe: “You might not care if Donald Trump says he’s going to round up all the terrorists, because you’re not one,” Moe said onscreen.

What ridiculousness!

6   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Dec 11, 2:12pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Great choice of candidates this year:... a narcissistic egomaniac, an establishment feminist, a socialist...

The amazing thing about the Democratic Front Runner is that she has the credentials of a right wing "Big Business" Republican: Walmart Board Member, Anti-Union Lawyer at the most Anti-Union Law Firm in one of the most Anti-Union states, Warmonger Extraordinaire, Horrible on Civil Liberties (and long before Snowden or the Patriot Act), Unfair "Free" Trade Peddler, alternatively (doesn't) hyphenate her maiden name or changes accent or bakes/does not bake chocolate chip cookies according to her audience, etc.

Yet the media don't call bullshit on this, they let her make statements that "feint leftwards" without protest given her history.

Meanwhile as Blurtman points out...

Blurtman says

This nutter Moe is putting words into Trump's mouth. He did not say round of all Hispanic immigrants. He said round up illegal aliens.

The media will say stuff like "wants to expel Hispanics", implying he means all Hispanic People and not just illegals.

This is what America is sick off. The problem is it's not 1950s anymore where an aluminum siding salesman can trick a housewife into listening to their spiel because "You've been shortlisted for Binghampton, NY Suburban Home of the Year!". People are much more sophisticated, and the longer the media uses "Old News" or "Selective Quotation" or "That's not true because government or paid corporate or political think tank activist says so" tactics, the more obvious they become.

As in:
thunderlips11 says

With only two exceptions, the three hours of messaging, venting and friendly arguments revealed the roots of Trump’s support. Participants derided the mainstream media, accusing reporters of covering snippets of Trump quotes when the full context would have validated him.

7   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Dec 11, 2:18pm  

Blurtman says

It is astounding how shocked the professional politicians and campaign consultants are about Trump's popularity.

He's taking their gatekeeper keys away. He created a detour and people are simply going that route instead of going via the Media Pundit Toll Road.

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