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Well I believe they owe Dan and Hydrocarbon an appology.

Tenpoundbass says

Well I believe they own Dan and Hydrocarbon an appology.

WTF are you taking about. Slavery is evil no matter who the slavers are or what their excuses are. That has always been my position. If you are trying to argue that slavery practiced by Arabs excuses slavery practiced by England, France, Spain, and America that you are completely fucked up. Only a morally bankrupt asswipe would try to argue that evil committed by one group is not evil because another group did the same thing.

America blew up innocent civilians in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Does that in your world view make it OK for the Boston Bomber to kill innocent Americans or ISIS to attack Paris? How fucked up are you?

bgamall4 says

So, the point of this already known history, Thunderbumper?

The point of history is to not repeat the mistakes of the past. In order to accomplish that, one must know what history is and one must not whitewash it. The same standard of truth, accuracy, and honesty apply to every region's history. I do not tolerate the whitewashing of American history. Why should I tolerate the whitewashing of Arab history?

Acknowledging the specific evils of the past is the only way to ensure they remain confined to the past.

Venetians sold thousands of Christian Children into Arab Slavery when the Pope couldn't pay for a Crusade's Transportation. The kids showed up from all over Europe, but the Pope had no money to arm them or pay for the galleys to support them. So the Venetians told them they were going to the Holy Land, and made them row themselves to Alexandria, Egypt, and then sold them to the Arabs.

thunderlips11 says

The kids showed up from all over Europe, but the Pope had no money to arm them or pay for the galleys to support them. So the Venetians told them they were going to the Holy Land, and made them row themselves to Alexandria, Egypt, and then sold them to the Arabs.

Ain't religion grand?

Still, the kids were probably better off than with the pedophiles in the Vatican.

So why, then, can't white men jump?

thunderlips11 says

Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didn’t try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in particular cities, Davis said. Most previously estimated slave counts have thus tended to be in the thousands, or at most in the tens of thousands. Davis, by contrast, has calculated that between 1 million and 1.25 million European Christians were captured and forced to work in North Africa from the 16th to 18th centuries.

bgamall4 says

So, the point of this already known history, Thunderbumper?

Dan8267 says

The point of history is to not repeat the mistakes of the past. In order to accomplish that, one must know what history is and one must not whitewash it. The same standard of truth, accuracy, and honesty apply to every region's history. I do not tolerate the whitewashing of American history. Why should I tolerate the whitewashing of Arab history?

Acknowledging the specific evils of the past is the only way to ensure they remain confined to the past.

bgamall4 says

We are repeating the mistakes of the past. In 1939 we rejected a boatload of Jews in Miami because they were different. You are such a bigoted putz.

You are such a hypocritical asshole. How exactly do you go from me saying

The point of history is to not repeat the mistakes of the past. Acknowledging the specific evils of the past is the only way to ensure they remain confined to the past.

to me being a bigot? You anti-Semitic shit-for-brains bigoted compulsive liar. Every time you attempt to rewrite history, you are demonstrating the vileness of anti-Semitic assholes and the need to support Israel's right to exist. You are also doing a disservice to all self-proclaimed Palestinians by weakening the case for giving them a state. So keep it up. I'd call you a plant to make Palestinians look evil, but that would give you too much credit in terms of intelligence.

bgamall4 says

Dan8267 says

You anti-Semitic shit-for-brains bigoted compulsive liar.

Oh, because I hate Zionism which is not Judaism?

Because you rewrite history, blame victims for the acts of terrorists, and you do hate Jews. You are a bigot and your god is false. You are also willfully ignorant of history because it contradicts your perverse narrative. And every time you open your mouth you make the rest of us white people look like idiots by mere association. So do our race a favor and shut the fuck up.

Dan8267 says

So do our race a favor and shut the fuck up

he's jewish so he can't be racist.

Mark D says

Dan8267 says

So do our race a favor and shut the fuck up

he's jewish so he can't be racist.

Mark D knows about racism, being a racist turd. Alas, his knowledge of other topics doesn't compete.

I did enjoy reading this though:

Mark D says

my prediction: oil will go above $85 by the end of the year

Mark D says

i bought NOV and CVX in Jan when oil was at the bottom. i will sell if it gets to $85.

For every winning trade, there must also be a loser, and it's poetic justice to see Mark D lost 20% on CVX and 40% on NOV since January.