patrick.net

Patrick says

No apparent sense of the existential challenge facing the company for the first time in its history, let alone a path to victory

I think AI from competitors like ChatGPT are viewed as future competitors to Google search.

I read that about 77% of Googles revenue is from advertisement sales and 74% of its advertisement sales is from Google Search.

So about 56% of Google revenue is from Google search.

Hence if Google search sales drop 50% due to competitors, then the stock price should drop at least 25%.

But I read AI is not meant to be a search replacement as there are bigger plans for it such as with robots that work in a hospital, factory, as well as replace or augment lawyers, journalists, engineers, software coders, and other white collar workers.

I remember Rick Wicks said AI is just a tool and I liken that to CAD as far as tool for engineers such as SolidWorks and Anysys. However CAD did disrupt the drafting workers field just like Microsoft Word and Office replaced the typist pool.

For the federal government, I remember clerk typists (who were replaced with Microsoft Word) "transitioned" over to "administrative assistants" or "contract assistants or administrators" to the contracting officer.

.

Google is slowly being less dependent on advertising as a percentage of total revenues or sales.

I read that possibly either Google is infiltrated with a DEI culture that is so "blue pilled" that is does not realize its bias and that is why it AI tool called Gemini produces ridiculous results. To the DEI culture, their religion of DEI takes precedence over loyalty to Google's bottom line.

Another possibility is that Google is knowingly trying to sabotage its AI because it thinks it damages the reputation of all AI, including that of ChatGPT. It thinks in the long run that this would help Google.

As far as ChatGPT, I recall they chose OpenAI as its AI name because it was to be open source and not a for profit venture. Now Elon Musk is reported to be suing ChatGPT because it is focused on a profit motive, which likely is due to profit pressure from its other investor Microsoft.

.



.

Another factor is this is all "Wall Street theater or theatrics" as Silicon Valley is showing the Federal Government and other foreign governments that Google is not a monopoly for internet search.

If Google search sales eventually drop 50% from 2023 levels due to competition from other companies, then will the Federal Government , particularly DOJ's AntiTrust unit, still consider Google a monopoly threat ?

https://www.barrons.com/articles/google-ai-chatbots-search-alphabet-stock-a946f999

.

AD says

will the Federal Government , particularly DOJ's AntiTrust unit, still consider Google a monopoly threat ?

Google is a government agency. The DOJ was never going to do anything about the government's largest single source of covert data collection.

Patrick says

AD says

will the Federal Government , particularly DOJ's AntiTrust unit, still consider Google a monopoly threat ?

Google is a government agency. The DOJ was never going to do anything about the government's largest single source of covert data collection.

Patrick, so the DOJ antitrust case against Google search is just for show ?

How does the federal government pay Google for its services ?

Does the executive branch (White House) essentially force its departments to advertise on Google such as the Pentagon recruiting branch advertises on Google like Youtube ?

.

AD says

Patrick, so the DOJ antitrust case against Google search is just for show ?

How does the federal government pay Google for its services ?

Yes, the DOJ case is just for show.

The federal government pays Google by refusing to enforce anti-trust law so that Google can retain its monopoly on search.

Patrick says

AD says

Patrick, so the DOJ antitrust case against Google search is just for show ?

How does the federal government pay Google for its services ?

Yes, the DOJ case is just for show.

The federal government pays Google by refusing to enforce anti-trust law so that Google can retain its monopoly on search.

I see the quid pro quo between the federal government and Google.

But its not as if there is only two operating systems like Microsoft Windows and Apple OS, going back to 1998. There are so many other internet search options and other platforms such as Yandex, Microsoft Bing, Duck Duck Go, etc.

That is why I thought at least Microsoft Bing could be the counterbalance to Google search.

Either way, if Google search loses 50% of its business overnight than the stock should go from around $140 to $105.

Obviously that is not going to happen but it will progressively lose its market share, so Google earnings may only grow 15% annually instead of 27%. Price the future stock price in 10 years for that (1.15)^10 x $138 = $558

Look at Google's PE now and it is lower than the S&P 500's. Reminds me of Facebook or Meta taking a beating when its PE was super low about a year ago.

So I'm with Patrick as I wonder if this is all Wall Street theater (and stock price manipulation) such as AI and antitrust stories.

.

Google and Bing suck. Yandex is okay, but I really miss the old Altavista. The shit I could find with that search engine - goddamn it was legendary, at least to me.

Lately I find that AI is much better for most searches than search engines are, at least for generic information rather than specific info like where a store is located.

https://gab.ai/ at least doesn't require that you log in, but it's still woke. Try asking it why blacks commit such a disproportionate share of violent crime.

Patrick says

Lately I find that AI is much better for most searches than search engines are, at least for generic information rather than specific info like where a store is located.

https://gab.ai/ at least doesn't require that you log in, but it's still woke. Try asking it why blacks commit such a disproportionate share of violent crime.

you lucky the blue hairs that created and maintain that AI model don't have some tracking feature that works-around VPN protection when you ask questions like "why blacks commit such a disproportionate share of violent crime."

I'd be too chicken shit to enter that question into Google's Gemini AI

.

.

The answer is to never use Google anything, at all, ever.

No Gmail, no YouTube, no Android phone, no Chrome browser, and definitely no Google search or AI.

Please report Google to the CA hate hotline for this overt racist discrimination:

https://notthebee.com/article/california-governor-newsom-announces-new-hate-hotline-to-report-your-neighbors-to-the-state

Californians can visit CAvsHate.org or call 833-8-NO-HATE for resources and to report acts of hate

https://slaynews.com/news/biden-admin-accused-influencing-googles-biased-gemini-ai-house-republicans-demand-answers/

Allegations have emerged that Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration influenced Google’s decision to develop its controversial artificial intelligence (AI) program Gemini with an anti-white bias.

House Republicans have responded to the allegations by demanding that the Big Tech giant disclose influence on its development from the federal government.

The Gemini provoked a widespread backlash after users noticed it had been programmed with a bizarre extreme bias against white people.

The program allows people to type in a command and it will generate an image based on what was requested.

However, when users would type “generate an image of the Founding Fathers,” for example, they would be depicted as non-white people.

The program appeared to have been developed to replace most men with women and remove all white people. ...

Since Gemini’s launch late last month, evidence has now emerged that the Biden admin played a role in Google’s biased programming.

In response, the GOP-led House Judiciary Committee sent a letter over the weekend to Alphabet, Google’s parent company, demanding answers.

For the Bothers out there:

https://www.google.com/search?q=picture+of+Black+woman+married&sca_esv=f651d40197dd598b&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn0_UjHS6oYdVMTO5lkhGauhgl1apqQ%3A1710157607208&source=hp&ei=J-_uZab2Cby8kPIPk9q7wAE&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZe79N-60MWOEBCFu3_xHVLN_Olgt4J4e&ved=0ahUKEwjmpb3FkeyEAxU8HkQIHRPtDhgQ4dUDCBg&uact=5&oq=picture+of+Black+woman+married&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Ih5waWN0dXJlIG9mIEJsYWNrIHdvbWFuIG1hcnJpZWRInFFQ6wpYhktwAXgAkAEBmAGOA6ABqBWqAQgyOC4xLjAuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCHaACuhOoAgrCAgcQIxjqAhgnwgIEECMYJ8ICDhAuGIAEGLEDGMcBGNEDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBixA8ICCxAuGIAEGMcBGNEDwgIFEAAYgATCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIOEC4YgAQYxwEYrwEYjgXCAgUQLhiABMICDhAAGIAEGIoFGLEDGIMBwgILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwHCAgQQABgDwgIIEC4YgAQY1ALCAgcQABiABBgKwgIGEAAYFhgewgIFECEYoAHCAgQQIRgVmAMHkgcEMjIuN6AH8MgB&sclient=gws-wiz

Patrick says

Confirmed - just tried it 30 seconds ago.

.

Do you all remember this ? Google is likely over compensating for incidents like this.

,



.

Patrick says

I think Patrick they are hired mostly for their network of contacts. They still got colleagues and friends in the CIA, FBI, etc. and can use those contacts to help Google.

So they get hired for who they know, and not as much as far as what they know since it a political position within Google.

.

AD says

So they get hired for who they know, and not as much as far as what they know since it a political position within Google.

Just like defense industry contractors.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Patrick says

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

I wonder how much may it be sabotage. Perhaps they pushed to far the apolitical Google engineers who have been there very long.

How many DEI training and cultural events can they attend without snapping ? How many times can they tolerate the non-binary blue hairs antics at the office ?

Think of James Damore crowd.

And then think of those within that crowd who are a lot more political savvy or clever to not put themselves out there like Damore but engage in more sinister action without get caught ?

.

Damore is very, very smart. Look at where he graduated from (Univ of Illinois) and the degrees he earned like Physics. I bet he just "snapped". Think in context of Michael Douglas in Falling Down.

But the problem with Damore is he is not socially adept enough to get away with his agenda.

I bet you there are plenty remaining in Google who have same agenda, its that the non-binary blue hairs have not chased them out or realized who they are.

AND the manages and directors know they need them around for Google to sustain its legacy operations, and come up with new innovative product lines.
.

.

I have said this (and/or thought this) before, my dream career world is to work next to the Rin's, Rich Wick's and Patrick's if I had to tolerate working in an environment there where the dominant work culture is non binary blue hairs.

.

AD says

But the problem with Damore is he is not socially adept enough to get away with his agenda.

True, and that's typical of engineers, but he was extremely honest and sincere, and I admire that. It cost him a lot. He's an example of real virtue.

AD says

my dream career world is to work next to the Rin's, Rich Wick's and Patrick's if I had to tolerate working in an environment there where the dominant work culture is non binary blue hairs.

You know, that's a great market opportunity. There are probably a ton of great engineers who are sick to death of the anti-white anti-male and anti-hetero hatred. A company that explicitly forbids all that hatred in its charger would get a lot of talent. If I ever grow the memes big enough to hire people, I will do that.

Patrick says

You know, that's a great market opportunity. There are probably a ton of great engineers who are sick to death of the anti-white anti-male and anti-hetero hatred. A company that explicitly forbids all that hatred in its charger would get a lot of talent. If I ever grow the memes big enough to hire people, I will do that.

how do you do that without attracting attention from DOJ Civil Rights division or EEOC ?

I guess you could market the company like a tech / engineering / coding version of Truth Social or Rumble ?

So that would be enough to lay down the law as far as what the company's foundation and culture is about.

Like some name it Liberty Labs or something , or Woke-Free Tech Zone.

Or you can dial it back some and make it presented more as an apolitical or neutral company that has a charter which does not subscribe to the Woke political antics.

Just trying to figure out how you market it like thinking how the Marines market itself or even the Peace Corps does.

.

AD says

how do you do that without attracting attention from DOJ Civil Rights division or EEOC ?

I think the EEOC's own laws could be used to do this. Discrimination against white people is also illegal, in theory.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/18/tech/google-interfered-in-us-elections-41-times-since-2008-report/

Google has been putting its thumb on the scale to help Democratic candidates win the presidency in the last four election cycles during which it censored Republicans, according to a right-leaning media watchdog.

The Media Research Center published a report alleging 41 instances of “election interference” by the search engine since 2008.

The MRC published a report accusing Google of having “utilized its power to help push to electoral victory the most liberal candidates…while targeting their opponents for censorship.”

https://www.thefp.com/p/ex-google-employees-woke-gemini-culture-broken

Google’s Woke AI Wasn’t a Mistake. We Know. We Were There.

The world has been horrified—and amused—by the extreme ideological bent of Gemini, Google’s much-hyped new AI tool, which the company launched last month.

But Shaun Maguire, who was a partner at Google Ventures, the company’s investment wing, from 2016 until 2019, had a different reaction.

“I was not shocked at all,” he told The Free Press. “When the first Google Gemini photos popped up on my X feed, I thought to myself: Here we go again. And: Of course. Because I know Google well. Google Gemini’s failures revealed how broken Google’s culture is in such a visually obvious way to the world. But what happened was not a one-off incident. It was a symptom of a larger cultural phenomenon that has been taking over the company for years.”

Patrick says

The world has been horrified—and amused—by the extreme ideological bent of Gemini, Google’s much-hyped new AI tool, which the company launched last month.

You do realize this is a good thing?

Google has betrayed the nation by pretending to be an informational resource, and instead does everything they can to distort information, prevent people from finding it, censoring people, and promoting propaganda. I don't think they have enough diversity yet.

richwicks says

Google has betrayed the nation by pretending to be an informational resource, and instead does everything they can to distort information, prevent people from finding it, censoring people, and promoting propaganda. I don't think they have enough diversity yet.

We can hope that their diversity hires drag down the quality of Google websites to the point where no one uses them. I think it's already happening to some degree.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/government-seeks-to-obtain-personal-data-about-you-tube-viewers_id156589

Patrick says

We can hope that their diversity hires drag down the quality of Google websites to the point where no one uses them. I think it's already happening to some degree.

There's no doubt.

Google email is installed on every Android phone, nobody uses it. Google Voice was installed on every Android phone, nobody used that. You could run Google voice on your computer, any device really, to make and receive phone calls - know anybody that does it?

YouTube was the UNDISPUTED KING of video, but they engaged in censorship, kicked off all the interesting people, pushed assholes like Rachael Maddow and Sean Hannity down everybody's throat, and censored actual creators, kept deleting videos - Rumble is going to replace them.

richwicks says

YouTube was the UNDISPUTED KING of video

Still I've been grateful for Youtube from learning about trading puts and calls, to installing Ubuntu on a 2018 desktop computer, to being able to troubleshoot and fix my vehicle.

.