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Rin says

The cost of owning a Toyota Corolla, assuming 15K/mon in miles, a $16K sticker, and maintenance of $7K over a 15 year span ~29mpg with $3 gas is about $5 per day.

So in effect, if ppl only need short hops, this idea will easily pay for itself.

15k a month in miles? I think you mean a year otherwise thats 180k a year times 15 years is 2.7 million miles. That's one hell of a corrolla. Even at 15k a year for 225k total I come up with $8.,50 a day. I really question 7k in maintenance for 225k. I do all my own wrenching and I'm not sure I could keep it down to that. Pay a garage it will be more than 7k.

Where is insurance in your calculations?

Rin says

The cost of owning a Toyota Corolla, assuming 15K/mon in miles, a $16K sticker, and maintenance of $7K over a 15 year span ~29mpg with $3 gas is about $5 per day.

So in effect, if ppl only need short hops, this idea will easily pay for itself.

No way.

The worst car insurance you can buy will still cost $3 per day. Add in a gallon a day of gas, and you're at $6 per day without even considering taxes, maintenance, license fees, or depreciation.

It's extremely difficult to get your overall vehicle spending under $0.30 per mile.

jazz music says

Highly paid professionals, merchant caste, upper class, and wealthy will have a wide selection of pricier car choices to advertise their higher status--when desired--with amenities; human concierges, visual style, comfort, speed, even preferential treatment in traffic by the system itself.

They can even have their own private vehicles, stocked with their favorite drinks and trinkets. There will still be car ownership, but it will be a niche market.

HydroCabron says

It's extremely difficult to get your overall vehicle spending under $0.30 per mile.

My overall vehicle spending is almost never more than $0.20 per mile, most of that gas. Of course I've yet to own a vehicle made in the 21st century, paid $700 for my last 2 vehicles combined ( which have 85k and 93k respectively), haven't had any other mechanic touch my cars in years, and put on average 400-500k on a vehicle before junking it. When I send a car to the junkyard, it's junk.

jazz music says

uto repairs will necessarily be done as depot level operations. Mechanics will likely go to work for a highly capitalized centralized garage operation where routine cleaning, diagnostics and recharging are performed.

The minimum waged Geeksquad more like it.

jazz music says

even preferential treatment in traffic by the system itself. Imagine everybody being made to wait because a rich person is coming;

We have that in South Florida it's called the Express Lanes and you pay by a sun pass. The more elitist morons that get in it, and then clog and contest the rest of the traffic as they bring the rest of the traffic to grinding halt as they enter and exit this corralmentation of stupidity. The slower they can manage to make traffic for everyone else as they dawdle 5mph an hour as they merge left at the end of the express lanes, then the more they charge to use it. They manage to get from Downtown Miami to Broward county line in 15minutes while everyone else takes 45.

sbh says

See? Lizzie and you and "the assholes" (whoever that is) subverted the capitalist system and shamed (there's that evil, elitist "talking" bit again) McD into shitcanning Cap's favorite cholesterol hockeypucks.

My impression is that Lizzie Warden made the decision on her own.

She's the one up there in Washington who decides how you can invest, what you can eat, and so on.

I'm opposed to someone dictating how we live on principle.

She also has investments, you know. That disqualifies her from holding public office.

CaptainShuddup says

We have that in South Florida it's called the Express Lanes and you pay by a sun pass.

How much do they charge?

It's like .25 cents when the cars in the express lane are at the same clip as the creatin traffic. It starts going up from there, I've passed the entrance before where it was already up to $5.00, because the regular traffic was going 35mph to 45mph with frequent stop and go areas. Often by time I am at the half way point, the express lane will be backed up and gridlocked and the regular traffic doing 45mph seems like warp speed in comparison.

Often that's because there was a breakdown, flat tire or accident, that brings the whole thing to a stop.

I just laugh blow my horn and give them the finger as I pass them by.
Elitists really are stupid lot.

Because in most optimal conditions they and the regular lanes are all going 60 to 80mph and there will still be assholes paying that 25 cents to be there. It's only two lanes so I've seen regular traffic going faster because two assholes in the express lanes driving side by side at 55 to 60mph, while they have 40 cars behind tailgating each other.

CaptainShuddup says

It's like .25 cents when the cars in the express lane are at the same clip as the creatin traffic. It starts going up from there, I've passed the entrance before where it was already up to $5.00, because the regular traffic was going 35mph to 45mph with frequent stop and go areas.

Sounds reasonable if you are in a hurry that day. People here pay a premium for "green" vehicles just to use the HOV lanes driving solo.