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Rin
2014 Jul 11, 1:19am
What you pass down is not the asset of a business per se, but the proper early education, work ethics, and early brain development (including prenatal care) free from drugs.
Like I said, my work will be discovered, some 50 years after my passing.
As for the kids, when I'm writing my Magnum Opus, in my den in 20 years, I don't want that call from my local PD's office...
'Rin, we picked up your son for stealing Oxycontin. He's in lockdown. Please come down and post bail'
And yes, this has occurred, even in children from good families. I know a few. The use of opiate derivatives is now in the white communities.
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 1:37am
Every single argument presented by the pro-kid lobby can be satisfied by fostering and/or adoption.
How about try this one on for size:
Pre-natal care and education during the first 2 years are extremely important to the child's brain development. Now, would you prefer the child to be conceived and brought into this world under your own meticulous care with a woman that you are sharing your life and resources with . . . or would you prefer her to get pregnant after a night out at the bar or even when high as a kite with her "friends," none of whom ever prepared for fatherhood but all of whom just wanted to bang her? then you get to adopt their "mistake"? A mistake that you could have prevented to begin with by dating her and giving her the baby that she wants and will fight tooth and nail to keep!
Every single argument presented by the pro-kid lobby can be satisfied by fostering and/or adoption.
Except the silly ones.
I stand corrected.
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 1:42am
The women are not dysfunctional. Evolution made them that way! They want babies; they want babies with men whose gene carry the instincts for babies. So grow a pair. Baby making is hard work for her (it's actually a huge sacrifice on her part, much bigger than yours); she doesn't want to work for a dead end. If you refuse to make babies, the irresponsible badboys and losers taking advantage of the government dysgenic social policies actually would provide "better" (i.e. more viable) genes than yours, at your expense!
The silliness just keeps piling up!
If women were so fixated on finding a good father for their children the "bad boy" types would never have a chance!
That is NOT how it works and you know it. The ideal situation for such women is to spend their wild years getting banged by bad boys, and once the seeds have been planted to find a "nice guy" to both raise the kids and clean up the emotional wreckage.
Like I said, my work will be discovered, some 50 years after my passing.
As for the kids, when I'm writing my Magnum Opus, in my den in 20 years, I don't want that call from my local PD's office...
'Rin, we picked up your son for stealing Oxycontin. He's in lockdown. Please come down and post bail'
And yes, this has occurred, even in children from good families. I know a few. The use of opiate derivatives is now in the white communities.
So what. Life is a game of chances. If you give her the two children, there is a non-zero but near-zero chance of that happening . . . if she gets her two babies from some loser, the chances of that happening is much greater!
Keep your woman busy and kids helping you around the lab, and you will have much lower chance of that happening to you. Don't think of them as burdens, but think of ways that can turn them into assets to you!
The silliness just keeps piling up!
If women were so fixated on finding a good father for their children the "bad boy" types would never have a chance!
That is NOT how it works and you know it. The ideal situation for such women is to spend their wild years getting banged by bad boys, and once the seeds have been planted to find a "nice guy" to both raise the kids and clean up the emotional wreckage.
The answer to that is simple:
1. Absolutely refuse to adopt or take over someone else' baggage under any circumstances; so the hard life of her sister raising a child from a loser would be a deterrent for any not-yet pregnant woman in times of mate selection.
2. Give her a package sweet enough that she is willing to end her "wild years" before pregnancy with any of the losers.
BTW, stop complaining about the women. Baby making is hard work, and demands a lot of sacrifice from her. If none of us good guys can provide her with a package sweet enough, she would have to numb her brain to get on with the business of baby making with some loser who can numb her brain just long enough to get her impregnated. A woman's life is a life-long Stockholm Syndrome. Be grateful you are not born a woman.
Rin
2014 Jul 11, 2:01am
and kids helping you around the lab, and you will have much lower chance of that happening to you
LOL! A bunch of kids, running around in a chemistry lab.
I wouldn't even want certain 18 years olds in that env. One almost got a bunch of us, sent to the hospital, back in those days.
And what's a better way for kids to high these days ... something you should know ... sniffing organic solvents, found all over a chemistry lab.
Seriously, you need to stop with whatever you're on, they've made you both, delusional & hyperactive.
Of course wait until age-approriate. Find a science-minded woman to help you design separate next door lab to promote interest when the kids are younger.
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 2:15am
And what's a better way for kids to high these days ... something you should know ... sniffing organic solvents, found all over a chemistry lab.
Not to mention all the fun things one can make in such a lab.
I'm surprised you guys are liberal. You guys see the cost of everything but none of the value. Sheesh, talk about a bunch of pessimists committing genetic suicide.
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 2:21am
I'm surprised you guys are liberal. You guys see the cost of everything but none of the value. Sheesh, talk about a bunch of pessimists committing genetic suicide.
And the silliness continues!
It's not silliness. You should take a look at what downloading the reproductive responsibility to tax-eating welfare mothers produces.
In today's world, it is already hard enough for a woman to choose a smart, productive and responsible yet somewhat nerdy man. She is likely to be jeered by her friends as "uncool" perhaps even wrongly accused of "gold-digging." Then you want to reward her with genetic dead end. Good work, boys!
Rin
2014 Jul 11, 2:45am
In today's world, it is already hard enough for a woman to choose a smart, productive and responsible yet somewhat nerdy man. She is likely to be jeered by her friends as "uncool" perhaps even wrongly accused of "gold-digging." Then you want to reward her with genetic dead end. Good work, boys!
The only sad person here is you.
Some random guy on the net, a former engineer, turned into a sleazy hedge fund salesman, says that he doesn't want kids and then you, develop a brain aneurysm.
Sorry, but you're a White Knighter, thinking that you're solving all of society's ills, by impregnating a woman. That's a delusion of grandeur. Pleaz, "reward her", are you owned by these ppl? And "wrongfully accused", are you now her legal counsel?
Here are the drugs I'm on today ... one 200mg caffeine pill & one 16 oz bottle of Sprite. I'd hate to think of what you're on.
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 2:46am
Now the problem is identified, what's the solution? You need to help increase in the next generation genetic representation of preference for engineers (and other intellectual and/or productive types) over pants dragging losers. It's a matter of survival for our civilization as we know it.
What you are proposing is eugenics. We've been down that road before.
Not a government-run eugenics program. The government is actually running a dysgenics program by taxing men like you and Rin to enable the reproduction of losers.
As for personal genetic selection, that women do all the time all over the world. Each has 2+ tickets on average (population maintenance level of reproduction); it's a matter of to whom she shares those tickets with.
Rin, not solving all of society's ills, but one problem at a time.
I'm just someone trying to put what I advocate into practice.
As a father of a daughter, I want her and her offsprings to have an environment where choosing a smart, productive and responsible man is not a genetic dead end.
Rin
2014 Jul 11, 2:55am
The government is actually running a dysgenics program by taxing men like you and Rin to enable the reproduction of losers.
Hello, we've all been paying taxes now, for about a century. And despite that, our tax rate is lower than Canada's or Australia's, our nearest cousin nations.
That's only because of the reserve currency status enable the US government spend far more than tax revenue. The chickens will come back to the roost someday as that exported cash claim come back around . . . and that's all the more reason why you want the next generation to have more middle-class kids raised with opportunities and supervision instead of the perverse-selection feeding the flash mobs.
Rin
2014 Jul 11, 2:58am
As a father of a daughter, I want her and her offsprings to have an environment where choosing a smart, productive and responsible man is not a genetic dead end.
Very simple, raise her in South America or Asia.
As that's happening, she'll notice that not every guy is running after her, and may develop a normal self-perception of herself.
Then, as she's approaching college age, split the time between the US and there. During college, she'll find a regular engineer and settle down with him, not thinking about some douchebag, who runs opiates for a living.
I do not wish to expatriate at this point; nor do I want her to be raised thousands of miles away from myself.
America is where she was born; it is her home country.
Rin
2014 Jul 11, 3:08am
America is where she was born; it is her home country.
Then you better move to Amish country because unless you actively homeschool and prevent her from meeting other gals and guys, she will develop this notion that all men should want to pursue her at all times.
Then, after she takes the first few nice guys for granted, the *taking for granted* M.O. will become a habit, until the first douchebag with the Oxycontin stash arrives at the scene.
Then, from there on, you'll see the rise of Alanis Morrisette, Ally McBeal, and so forth. The constant female victim, who's never conscious of the fact that it was her poor prior decisions, which led to those situations.
Then make more babies to enable economy of scale for your own home school. By cashing out the pair of tickets from more than one woman if necessary, being honest and supportive of each, of course, if you can afford it.
BTW, not all girls take guys for granted.
Rin
2014 Jul 11, 3:17am
Then make more babies to enable economy of scale for your own home school. By cashing out the pair of tickets from more than one women if necessary, being honest and supportive of each, of course, if you can afford it.
^^
New Renter, this one is for you. Execute pick 'n roll.
BTW, not all girls take guys for granted.
As they make friends and try to climb the social hierarchies, they'll learn how to do this. Sure, some of intrinsically strong character won't be changed but many more will.
As for female victimhood, well I have a more nuanced view of it: compared to being born a man, being born a woman is somewhat of a victimhood: how would you feel about walking around like a hormone bucket for 30 years, bleed every month for the same length, and cramping pain every few months?
All for what? the exercise of those two tickets!
Heraclitusstudent
2014 Jul 11, 3:59am
You guys see the cost of everything but none of the value. Sheesh, talk about a bunch of pessimists committing genetic suicide.
It has nothing to do with politics. We live in a world where people must be ultra defensive: be on constant guard for your job and your money. We are producing individuals who are so wrapped up in THEIR money, THEIR lives, THEIR control, THEIR grandiose vision of their own worth they are unable to relate normally to other human being: making a real commitment and sacrificing their times and resources to care for others. That's true for women and men.
Very true, Her clitorus student, sharing a baby without giving her perverse incentive to take over your life in order to prevent your straying goes a long way towards promoting good behavior in a woman.
A woman sacrifices a lot in baby making, yet she is biologically and emotionally predisposed towards it, just like men are drawn to having sex. There is a genetic programming for her to get as much from her man as possible, both to ensure the prosperity of her offsprings and prevent potential rivals. You just have to set the parameters in such a way that her status and support are secure, yet any grasping behavior would not be rewarded.
In a modern western society, that framework is outside of marriage, but via some kind of generous child-support agreement.
The more I read stories about teen mothers smothering their babies the more I think every human female should get an IUD after her first period.
IUDs aren't perfect. Ask my friend. The failure rate is actually surprisingly high compared to birth control pills.
I'm not talking about more human beings. Each woman is more or less destined to have two babies on average in a modern western society (population maintenance level of reproduction; actually slightly declining due to small but non-zero child mortality). It's a matter of whether these two kids in the next generation will grow up to be productive members of the society or counter-productive ones.
Highly intelligent, productive and consciencious men like Rin have a much higher probability of raising productive members of society than the pants-dragging knuckle-walkers would.
Whether one decides to have kids or not, the key to happiness is to focus on the positive side of the opportunity cost and this concept is clearly in place when deciding whether or not kids are in the future. DINK lifestyle has obvious advantages in terms of money, free time, opportunity to travel and focus on individual/couple interests. That's not to say that having kids should doom someone - I think a lot of parents, especially the well to do ones tend to have this belief that they should change their lifestyle to focus on the children lest they be considered bad parents. But there's no reason why it should not be the other way around - children should fit into your lifestyle as far as it's practical and feasible.
Here are the drugs I'm on today ... one 200mg caffeine pill & one 16 oz bottle of Sprite. I'd hate to think of what you're on.
Given that that cocktail induced you down the rabbithole with a supply-side sociopath, I'd try to tweak the dosage.
Agree. Either you need more caffeine or less caffeine. Not sure which.
cynn
2014 Jul 11, 8:57am
This is the funniest goddamn thread ever. As hard as I tried I couldn't work up a bit of female outrage and offense. I would call this Broformance Art.
I would call this Broformance Art.
Shoot your sperm into those dysfunctional baby-deprived sluts before they start guzzling cum from the bad boys with tattoos, son. Come one, come all, come often.
Also, drink lots of pineapple juice so you can offer her a sweet package!
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 10:51am
Then make more babies to enable economy of scale for your own home school. By cashing out the pair of tickets from more than one women if necessary, being honest and supportive of each, of course, if you can afford it.
^^
New Renter, this one is for you. Execute pick 'n roll.
I'd love to but I can't make heads or tails of this one!
Economy of scale? WTF?!
Sounds like you're about to go David Koresh, put together a harem of zombie wives and found your own Zion out in the desert somewhere.
The FBI will be with you presently.
Economy of scale? WTF?!
As in one hired teacher can teach multiple kids.
Sounds like you're about to go David Koresh put a harem together and found your own Zion out in the desert somewhere.
The FBI will be with you presently.
Not interest in harem, not interested in religion, not interested in desert, not interested in FBI either. Just date one woman at a time, like normal guys do, except without the pregnancy phobia.
New Renter
2014 Jul 11, 11:55am
Economy of scale? WTF?!
As in one hired teacher can teach multiple kids.
Sounds like you're about to go David Koresh put a harem together and found your own Zion out in the desert somewhere.
The FBI will be with you presently.
Not interest in harem, not interested in religion, not interested in desert, not interested in FBI either. Just date one woman at a time, like normal guys do, except without the pregnancy phobia.
Wow you really put a lot of value on the quality of your man-juice don't you?
I dunno if the rest of society would agree.
I love you guys. you've almost convinced me to do it again!
Although some might.
Wow you really put a lot of value on the quality of your man-juice don't you?
I dunno if the rest of society would agree.
Not my man-juice per se, but the proper raising of a child under my paternal right to know and supervise . . . unlike the welfare recipient households where the kids are raised in atrocious conditions despite my tax money subsidizing it, because none of us have any right to know what's going on inside their houses.
I love you guys. you've almost convinced me to do it again!
Although some might.
Like I said, it's not about my man-juice. If I can inspire another middle-class or upper middle-class family to have another child, to be raised under proper parental supervision, so much the better!
thenuttyneutron
2014 Jul 11, 12:16pm
I am not convinced that the women having kids with loser males will matter in the long term. There really are no corrective forces now for this tragic setup. This may not be the case in the future. The people that have a fewer kids but invest heavily in them may actually win out in the end because they will have the skill sets for thriving in a tough environment when those corrective forces return.
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Ok, it's been said before but I'll say it again.
I see myself as a creative and intelligent person who, if born rich, would be a Renaissance man doing my own research, engaging in numerous activities.
Thus, my goal in life is to become independently wealthy and do the above.
Now, since many of my pals have had children and so forth, I'm absolutely astonished at how lame and boring these kids are. At best, they parrot TV shows and break toys, to the best of their abilities. In contrast, when I was a kid, I was dreaming of writing screenplays, inventing a lightsaber, and so forth.
Yes, my parents squashed my dreams and made me think of engineering, accounting, and so on but at least when I got started, I had bigger dreams.
But now, I've come to accept these facts. Yes, for the most part, children are lame and at best, one can hope that they don't get in trouble with the law or sleep in your basement for life. Those parents, whose kids are the next Alexander Hamilton or Buckminster Fuller, are the fortunate ones.
With that said, I have no incentive nor motivation to have my own. When I'm an old man, I'll be like Frank Lloyd Wright, constantly writing down ideas and working on things of interest without having a lifelong kid/adult sleeping near my study spaces.