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"There's not a worse decision a young American can make than attending college sans parental money or massive scholarship," wrote Matthew Saccarro for Salon last month. "You're paying for nothing that you can't get elsewhere for less money or free, save for the piece of paper with a con man's signature on it."

Precisely. College is a con job, but one forced onto people.

Dan8267 says

freak80 says

Is it ok if I disown my American Taliban parents?

You do realize the NSA reads PatNet?

Shh, AF won't like it if you out his day job!

I think to succeed in this very difficult job market you have to have a swagger and a lot of skill at manipulating social situations. The politically astute will prevail while the meek are overlooked. You have to pretend until you become, because people without exp are automatically rejected.
Possibly the best move would be to fake a resume with at least some experience to get an entry level job, then go on the job hunt again maybe two months in, before there's definitive proof that you actually aren't experienced. Land another job based on the current job and switch before the water gets too hot. Rinse, repeat, with increasingly long intervals at jobs, then you have an experience history that looks like boss material!
Winning.

sbh says

qualities employers say they are desperate to find: communication skills and executive presence.

Communication Skills: Blogging on PatNet and/or spending all day on Facebook.

Executive Presence: Fake it till you make it.

What's the problem again?

Grow weed - no college degree needed and you will be producing something beneficial to society rather than another useless widget or financial product designed to suck money from the degree carrying sheeple in their cubicles.

sbh says

New Renter says

sbh says

qualities employers say they are desperate to find: communication skills and executive presence.

Communication Skills: Blogging on PatNet and/or spending all day on Facebook.

Executive Presence: Fake it till you make it.

What's the problem again?

You mean RentingForHalfTheCost is marketable? Your killin' me, dude.

If you don't have him on ignore then yes he is marketable to you.

Moderate Infidel says

Grow weed - no college degree needed and you will be producing something beneficial to society rather than another useless widget or financial product designed to suck money from the degree carrying sheeple in their cubicles.

"How you going to get the kids back on the farm after they've seen the big city?

sbh says

I've yet to put anyone on ignore.......perhaps that's my bad. I like poking him with a stick when I get bored watching the S&P make new highs. Yawn.

To each their own I guess. Personalty I can't abide anyone who just for shits and giggles would intentionally mislead another to make the biggest financial mistake of their life. IMO that kind of behavior should be grounds for a nuking.

They take any repeated tidbit of information in any context as the truth. But they never want to hear the truth.

Moderate Infidel says

Grow weed

What are you, some kind of hippie like George Washington?

Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere!

sbh says

I like poking him with a stick

That's what she said.

sbh says

If mommy accompanies you to your job interview, it's a safe bet you've got problems.

Why would anyone believe the lie told about college? After graduation......that's when it all begins. The Ms think after graduation they get a gold watch.

Yep.

So for those on this forum, who choose to go child free ... don't you feel relaxed, when you go to sleep at night? I certainly do.

sbh says

Why would anyone believe the lie told about college? After graduation......that's when it all begins. The Ms think after graduation they get a gold watch.

Most of us believe it for a short time. I sure did - for about a month.

The reason is that colleges, deans, and professors spew the bullshit about how elite and important all members of the college community are, and how lucky society is to have graduates of Xxxx University descend from the heights into the population of citizens every year, with pure silk streaming from their highly-educated asses. Couple this with having to actually work damn hard for the worthless degree, and there is understandable entitlement the day it is received.

What straightened me out was job interviews, and massive rejections. Clearly, society was not impressed by my degree and achievements.

I had the advantage that I could continue to interview, adjust my strategy, and learn to roll with the punches. I learned to speak the language of people who my professors had looked down on as morons: those people, outside academe, who weren't even adjunct lecturers.

The current generation isn't even getting the interviews. Whatever is wrong with them, they have fewer opportunities to fix it.

I once went through a stretch of unemployment where it was difficult to get walk-in interviews. When I got the walk-ins, it was as if I was rusty - the stench of unemployment hung on me. This affects performance.

Everyone is ill-served by college when it comes to entering the job market. But if there is no job market, how does one adjust and learn?

Iosef V HydroCabron says

Couple this with having to actually work damn hard for the worthless degree, and there is understandable entitlement the day it is received.

What straightened me out was job interviews, and massive rejections. Clearly, society was not impressed by my degree and achievements.

Yeah, but didn't you get the feel of the cold, real world, during that 1st CO-OP or internship, during the summers of sophomore or junior year?

Once I'd gained some experience, I knew that the halls of academia were a type of private Idaho.

What surprised me, however, was how lame, industrial R&D was going to be, after graduation.

CMY says

My very comfortable, non-degreed parents just stare at me in disbelief when I mention that we won't be able to buy a home in SoCal.

That's exactly the point.
Boomers are blind in that way. They feel that if you just step out and try hard, it will be enough.

They don't think of this as entitlement, but having such a world around you is the entitlement they had that the millennials don't even expect.

Call it Crazy says

Rin says

So for those on this forum, who choose to go child free ... don't you feel relaxed, when you go to sleep at night? I certainly do.

Hmmm... Does that mean the ones WITH children aren't relaxed when they go to sleep??? I've got three and I sleep like a rock, so I don't get your point??

Well, my sister and brother-in-law drink Amarettos and Whisky, respectively, to get themselves to sleep at night.

All that stress about bills, the child's activities, etc, have really eaten away at their lives.

Call it Crazy says

Hmm.. That's sad.... Makes me wonder who REALLY is in charge in that house...

Well, it's either Johnnie Walker, Jimmy Beam, or Jack Daniels, take your pick?

Regardless, since some of our founding fathers didn't have children, I'm following suit.

The coming generations of American kids will be the dumbest of 'em all.

Core R&D will be done in Asia and places like the USA, Canada, etc, will become money laundering centers for monied powers.

Call it Crazy says

Like I said, chicken!!!

Sticks & Stones, plus, the good General's got my back.

Call it Crazy says

That's a given..... But boy can they text!!!

I suspect that the brighter ones will become cyberpunks, so keep an eye on your credit scores and bank balances at all times.