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No, no, don't you see, its a win, because Obama lost another round!

It's a win when the country loses, that how the 'PUKES see it.

I did some research and this appears to be the situation: For starters, it's not a "currency bill" but rather a tariff against Chinese imports in retaliation for China artificially manipulating their currency to make exports to the USA more attractive. In addition, Obama isn't very interested in starting a trade war. Finally, the US's currency is already dog pee due to the Fed printing up money and buying Chinese windmills.

Regarding the Democrats' croc tears about jobs for "the middle class", Robert Reich said:
http://voices.yahoo.com/robert-reich-excludes-white-male-construction-workers-2549191.html?cat=3
"if construction jobs go mainly to white males who already dominate the construction trades, many people who need jobs the most -- women, minorities, and the poor and long-term unemployed -- will be shut out."

Shouldn't you Dems be happy that jobs and wealth is going to China? Aren't they a "minority?"

PolishKnight says

Shouldn't you Dems be happy that jobs and wealth is going to China? Aren't they a "minority?"

Do you think this a joke? It's not.

Didn't we just do QE3 and isn't what China just did essentially the same?

"Do you think this a joke? It's not."

I'm not joking, but I do have a sense of humor (helps to get by.) Perhaps it's my Slavic/Polish heritage. I find it amusing that when someone bashes the Republicans for supposedly destroying the country and taking away jobs from "Americans" while simultaneously wanting to open up the borders and let in as many people as possible to take away jobs and then send the money back home to their relatives (and then go on welfare, without having to work thanks to Obama, at taxpayer expense.) Why is destroying the country one way "bad" but the other way "good" (when the only way they can gain/retain voters is to import them.) Oh, wait, answered my own question...

Republicans have obfuscated government, why should we trust them to lead, why should we be bipartisan with them on far right extremist views?

PolishKnight

Perhaps it's my Slavic/Polish heritage.

"while simultaneously wanting to open up the borders and let in as many people as possible to take away jobs "

You mean to people like you?

or is just Latinos you hate?

Can you show me which bill would open up the borders to this abuse?

Are you talking about the guest worker program for farmers?

Who do you think will work on the farms? Students? Immigrants like you?

When I was in Poland last year, I was talking with my friends their opinions of migrant workers from Russians, Ukrainians, and from Belarus and they were critical of them causing crime. They weren't being "hateful" (although there's an element of that based upon previous historical conflicts) or even racist but simply expressing a matter-of-fact observation from their point of view.

It's a mere observation that Latinos drive down the price of labor as effectively as (insincere) criticisms of outsourcing does (note that Obama and the Asian voters with their hands in his pockets are not going to do anything about H1B's or even outsourcing.) Just an observation. But if YOU want to make it about hateful racism, let's observe this: Look up the term "la raza" in google translation. They demand special racial entitlements due to race. And as I love to observe on this forum: the leftists are throwing white guys under the bus just to keep their worthless political party alive but the elites want to live in mostly white neighborhoods. At least with the comet cool-aid drinkers, there was hope that the comet would still be there after they passed on...

I wonder what the racial breakdown of Politicofact's zip code is. Tell you what dude, give us your zip code and we can look it up ourselves to see just exactly how racially enlightened you are. I agree with polish knight. Individuals may not be racist, or not to an extensive degree, but ethnic groups certainly are! Let me give you a very current example of racism that has nothing at all to do with white people or black people even.
My buddy is from Guam, a native Chamorro. His girlfriend's parents are very Japanese. My buddy is a great guy, generous and kind hearted, and has a great, high paying stable job. His girlfriend works as a flight attendant. After dating her for several years, he asked her parents for permission to marry their daughter.
They declined.
He wasn't Japanese, just a "dirty" islander.
Try broke up over it, but got back together when thy realized they didn't want to be apart. Two years later, their parents finally broke down and have consented.
They got married last weekend.

It's one thing to rail on about racists, and another to welcome a person of a totally different ethnic background into your family or into your home.
That's where the rubber meets the road.

My friend's father worked as a chemical company salesman. He sold acid (no yuks, that's what he sold.) He said that when he went to industry events and answered questions from Japanese about what type of acid to use, they would thank him and then quietly go and buy from a Japanese vendor across the hall. But when Koreans asked him and he helped, they bought from him.

And while that sounds bad, keep in mind that in the states the left encourages "women and minority owned" businesses to buy from each other or within their ethnic group. And hey, nothing wrong with that except for the double standard as they whine about right wing hypocrisy and racism. They take both of those to the sublime.

PolishKnight says

My friend's father worked as a chemical company salesman. He sold acid (no yuks, that's what he sold.)

a noble profession.. and a very important one.. no acid, no semiconductors, no laptops, no iphones or ipads.. no global telecommunications. where would the information revolution be today without it..
On your main point, yes, this is why diversity programs doesnt work.

The problem with imposing tariffs specifically against Chinese products is that we'll simply import the same stuff from another third world country.