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Science has a girl problem


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2012 May 4, 1:59am   38,429 views  86 comments

by Tenpoundbass   ➕follow (9)   💰tip   ignore  

No Stephen Hawkins didn't knock up one of the strippers at the Nuddie bar.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/04/news/economy/women-science/index.htm

"High school senior Mimi Yen spends a lot of time thinking about worm sex. "

I don't see the problem.

Though as Brational commented...

"I'm a woman. I taught biology for 30 years. I am not concerned about the ratio of men to women in science fields. I want future scientists to be people who are in science fields because they simply can't imagine doing anything else.

That there are fewer women in the sciences doesn't necessarily mean that we have done anything wrong or that somehow women are being purposefully directed away from the sciences or that we should try to push women into the sciences. "

I'm in agreement.

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83   Tenpoundbass   2012 May 15, 1:34am  

Rin says

Ok Kevin, it seems like we're now in the ad hominem, the "I'm smarter than you category".

He's a know it all, if he don't know it, then it ain't worth knowing.
We can only dream to achieve such blissful cluelessness.

84   Rin   2012 May 15, 5:09am  

CaptainShuddup says

Rin says

Ok Kevin, it seems like we're now in the ad hominem, the "I'm smarter than you category".

He's a know it all, if he don't know it, then it ain't worth knowing.
We can only dream to achieve such blissful cluelessness.

Well, in all honesty, there are blowhards in all professions and walks of life.

When I'm making $1M/yr or more, in trading, I can come back here and brag about how awesome I am. Here's the problem ... I've grown up a bit and have realized that blowhards don't have much to offer to others. When I hit the 7 figure zone, I'm keeping my earnings to myself. And unlike Kevin, I'll never accuse anyone of being incompetent or a poor person.

The reason why I've posted so much on this topic matter is that for some reason, life experiences has shown me that STEM work is not preferred by women, even women with math, physical or biological sciences background. At the same time, when particularly elitist posts ridiculously high salaries like $200K+ base, they can't juxtapose that against those, who were laid off from the supercollidor project which axed more than 4K physicists. What are those PhD postdocs now suppose to do? Google/Facebook hires less than 2% of applicants; it's actually easier to get into a medical school like Hopkins, Harvard, or Columbia.

85   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Apr 22, 1:29am  

The girl problem is that girls don't want to be in STEM. High Schools, Jr. High Schools, Elementary Schools, Countless Kids Programs, Colleges and Companies bend over backward to encourage girls in the arts and sciences. They seem to do fine - until they get to College, when they stop taking science classes - yet they are never personally more in control of their own curriculum than at College.

If you notice, the feminists most worried about the problem have Women's Studies, English, and other Liberal Arts degrees and little to no science background. Even the "Skepchick" is a marketing major, the Armenian-American girl who bitches about women in video games also does not have a STEM degree either.

Here's the dirty truth. Men fall in love with objects and concepts in a way that women don't. Ever hear a woman say about a boat or a new pimped out desktop, "Ain't (s)he a beauty?!" and wax poetical about it.

Seldom happens. But every guy has done this about something, be it a car or whatever, at least once in his life.

86   Shaman   2013 Apr 22, 2:39am  

The majority of my science classmates in college were female. The majority of graduates were also female. I don't know how many continued to work in science, but anecdotally there were two I know who did not. I think one did. I didn't, and my current profession is an ALL boys club. I've never even heard of a female crane mechanic. And the ratio of females to male mechanics of other sorts needs a zero after the decimal point. We all get paid very well on the waterfront, so it's not that the remuneration is lacking. It's that women do not like getting their hands greasy, or using blow torches, grinders, welding, hydraulic work, or rigging. They might be more into electrical work, but I also think that most would avoid a job where a nasty shock is a daily hazard. I get hit with 120v maybe 20 times a year, all by mischance, but it's no big deal and I hardly note it. I got nailed by 480 volts last week. That really hurt, but I took a minute and then got back to work.
I doubt a girl would be coming back to work at all after that.
Dangerous and dirty work is no bueno for any money if you are a woman.

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