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Bap33 says

thanks for sharing your personal opinions.
The question stands unanswered.

I think you're not understanding our answer. A person who thinks that homosexuals should be prosecuted for sodomy is a bigot because he is treating homosexuals as subhuman and it's an arbitrary prejudice.

From Merriam-Webster

bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Anti-gay laws are wrong for the same reason that race-based or class-based laws are wrong. They unjustly turn one group of people into second-class citizens or worse.

A hundred years from now, people are going to look back at the anti-gay laws in the same way we look back at the Jim Crow laws. You don't want to be on the side of bigotry when all the Internet chats and TV videos from our time are accessible on a single holochip. You'd be viewed by the 22nd century people the same way that slave owners are viewed by us today.

Dan8267 says

Correct. I believe in equality under law. No exceptions.

agree 100%. Lets start there.

Hate Crime. There should be no such thing. right?

Bap33 says

Hate Crime. There should be no such thing. right?

In my opinion, no. But let me explain why hate crime legislation exists.

The justification for hate crime legislation is that a person who commits a hate crime is not only attacking the victim, but is also attacking everyone in the area of the same race, orientation, etc. As such, hate crime is a form of terrorism as it terrorizes an entire community, not just the victim.

For example, when the KKK burns a cross on a black man's yard, they aren't just attacking that one man, but all blacks in the area.

Personally, I think the intent of hate crime legislation is already dealt with through conspiracy laws. As such I think it's not necessary. I also agree that a person's reasons for committing first degree murder don't matter other than to prove that it was first degree (premeditated) rather than second degree (a crime of passion).

However, if your goal is to prevent future murders, it may be useful to understand what motivates people to commit murder in order to address the problem.

I agree, no need for an extra lable.

Hate Crime = AWW - Angry While White.

For everyone else it's called Assault and Battery.