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Patrick says

Say one person owns everything. How are you going to compete with that?

That's easy:



This also works:




I'd prefer that the population isn't driven to that point, but I suspect it will be. For some inexplicable reason the powerful think they are immune from a revolt. Eventually, even their security forces will recognize if they kill their boss, they can take over their bosses assets.

NuttBoxer says

I don't know of anyone powerful enough to own everything,

Mao Dedong
Fidel Castro
Joe Stalin

Theses people owned all assets and even the population.

Patrick says

I think a free market is simply impossible when wealth is consolidated too much.

Say one person owns everything. How are you going to compete with that?

Do you know of any monopolies that are not government mandates? Either granted exclusive rights to an area like a telephone or cable company, or explicitly supported like Google?

NuttBoxer says

Patrick says

I think a free market is simply impossible when wealth is consolidated too much.

Say one person owns everything. How are you going to compete with that?

So is this God? I don't know of anyone powerful enough to own everything, otherwise we'd already be in a full blown dictatorship(and not the fun kind we have now). In a free market, your example is impossible. Too many talented people create competition. Innovation and service become the standards a good business is measured against. Even in a heavily socialized government, free markets still exist, and always have the highest transactions and real wealth exchanges. Imagine a completely free market...

What do you think is happening now? Tighter and tighter control is being exercised because it takes fewer and fewer people to make it happen. Think about the largest corporation or industry in the world. Let's say it is the NAR. How many people (this would include homeowners, vendors, mortgage brokers, inspectors, Realtors etc) would be effected if the NAR put a mandate on the entire real estate industry? That is NOT a free market. Too much control by too few people. Everyone needs to have control over their own lives else there is no such thing as anything with the word FREE in front of it.

Patrick says

Well, I am not going to comply, and I bet lots of people on this site and a million others sites like it won't comply either.

In CA almost everyone complies. All that it takes is right propaganda.

Past-wall harpye going into decades of straight white man and child hating misery. The sad irony is that way, way beyond the metal and ink, all that junk in her face and body you can very faintly see a once sweet, almost cute long haired girl who got wronged by a few and then boarded the cultural marxist re-education train into life-long decline and obsolescence.

Patrick says

It's just a starting argument.

How about 2 people, or 10 owning everything?

Could you compete with them? No.

So where is the line?

Look, in today’s society wealth is more like social credit than a dragon’s hoard. People can’t just own and sit on all the resources that other people need to use. Instead they “own” the land or equipment or food or trade goods but rent or lease or trade those goods for money which is imaginary and works more like a measure of potential goods and services than actual goods and services. When the billionaire puts his fortune to work, he uses his credit to compel the movement of and use of resources, and also compels people to provide him with services and labor in exchange for part of the vast credit he has amassed as a fictional imagining of society’s debt to him. This is fair. What is not fair is when the billionaire uses his credit to harm the population at large with usurious credit exchanges or hoards resources people need or crafts sinister plots to hurt people. When that happens, society pushes back and the billionaire learns the limit of his power.

mell says

wronged by a few

I used to feel really bad, and want to "help" them.

Now I understand that they lost control over their vagina tingles, threw themselves at Chad, tried to have his baby, but he left anyway, and give less of a shit.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

mell says

wronged by a few

I used to feel really bad, and want to "help" them.

Now I understand that they lost control over their vagina tingles, threw themselves at Chad, tried to have his baby, but he left anyway, and give less of a shit.

I do think it is fairly important to treat girls/women well in their youth for their own outcome and for the better of society. The very beautiful/hot (and sane) girls may be a bit spoiled but they generally treat men and orbiters nicely, because they have not been wronged much if ever as most men they date are full committers. The ugly ones may be somewhat at risk of being consumed by the globalist-marxist ideology of hate, but they often find a lesser attractive but committed mate and often find happiness within their levels, or some blossom in their talents and/or careers. They are usually not the most hateful / at risk either. It's the reasonably cute 5-7.5s on the beauty scale who will go full chad/asshole and get told the most the you-deseve-it-all pep talk to prepare their easy transition into harpye-dom under globalist-marxist propaganda outlets such as schools/universities and mindles common drone workplaces. All it takes is a few non-committal alphas (knowing she is outside of the 8-10 league and already exhibiting signs of feminism but fucking like a racehorse) dropping her and she will hate the straight white male and nuclear family forever with all her guts and poison their environment with leftoid-marxist drivel like a good npc, and destroy herself and her looks.

mell says

but they often find a lesser attractive but committed mate and often find happiness within their levels, or some blossom in their talents and/or careers.

Mell, I think you're about 40, around my age, give or take a few.

In our days, a plain/chubby gal was happy to have a boyfriend, esp. one that didn't smell and could carry on a conversation.

For those of use who could appreciate a few extra pounds going to the right places, it was a paradise, since most guys wanted skinny blonde chick.

Chubby in our day was slimmer than today's "Thicc". Chubby today is what we called Fat/Gross, and Fat today is what we would have called a Landwhale.

And there are a lot more fat gals. I have never seen so many fat teen-early 30s women ever in my life. What used to be 3-5% of the young female population is now closer to 50%.

Because of Tinder, the 3s to 5s think they're hot shit because top 20% guys WILL internet romance them and fuck them in a dry spell. They are guaranteed that a 7+ guy would fuck them at least once every couple of months with minimal effort on their part. Gals who aren't grossly obese are drowning in internet attention.

They think it's just a matter of time before some Alpha/High Beta 7+ will wife them up due to magic vagina/my mysterious Je Nais Se Quis* to be happily ever after.

5s to 7 are incorrigible. And surprisingly 8-9s are more approachable, since they intimidate most.

I can't believe what some 20-35 year old guys are encountering.

Even slick, well dressed, well off 30-50 something guys who might have chased a young fresh 5-7 twenty something are having problems because of the inordinate amount of internet attention.

mell says

All it takes is a few non-committal alphas (knowing she is outside of the 8-10 league and already exhibiting signs of feminism but fucking like a racehorse) dropping her and she will hate the straight white male and nuclear family forever with all her guts and poison their environment with leftoid-marxist drivel like a good npc, and destroy herself and her looks.

Yep.

Grandmothers and mothers in earlier days deliberately kept girls away from Chads on purpose.

* The JNSQ myth - that somebody is just waiting for somebody to discover their hidden talent and fall in love/give them Hollywood or Sex In City Glamor lifestyle - has never been more prevalent in females.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

I can't believe what some 20-35 year old guys are encountering.

Now throw in the "trans"......

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

mell says

but they often find a lesser attractive but committed mate and often find happiness within their levels, or some blossom in their talents and/or careers.

Mell, I think you're about 40, around my age, give or take a few.

In our days, a plain/chubby gal was happy to have a boyfriend, esp. one that didn't smell and could carry on a conversation.

For those of use who could appreciate a few extra pounds going to the right places, it was a paradise, since most guys wanted skinny blonde chick.

Chubby in our day was slimmer than today's "Thicc". Chubby today is what we called Fat/Gross, and Fat today is what we would have called a Landwhale.

And there are a lot more fat gals. I have never seen so many fat teen-early 30s women ever in my life. What used to be 3-5% of the young female population is now closer to 50%.

Because of Tinder, the 3s to 5s think t...

Agreed, I never minded a little padding as long as it was proportional, but today the massive land whales are out of control. Also there was something about chasing the nutty 5.5s to 7.5s, they would often be the best fucks and could appear "sexier" than an 8 or 9. But like the hot and rich Chad going for your average cute but nutty girl is usually a non-committal ruse we know deep inside we need to settle for the tad bit more "boring" beauty with at least some family values, or pay for it later. And even the better value girls in today's US of A will cause you enough problems ;)

HeadSet says

Mao Dedong
Fidel Castro
Joe Stalin

Theses people owned all assets and even the population.

Every one of those governments had a black market. So did East Berlin, so does North Korea. Even in the insane dystopia of 1984 there was a black market.

So let me wrap this back into my original response. There is nothing wrong with unfettered wealth as long as it's in a free market. The natural controls that exist will always create competition, innovation, and excellent service. It's only when you strap down business's and individuals with unfair tax systems, government regulation, crony capitalism, and socialism that things become unbalanced.

Many of you have the wrong idea that all rich people are evil, and anyone who becomes successful must be forced to share their wealth. My friends, what you aspire to is Communism, pure and simple. If everyone would just let go, and allow decency, common sense, and morality to rule their economics, we'd all have the opportunity to be very successful and well off. No need to even the playing field, just need to shoot the referee's, and let the free market work it's magic.

In a system as I describe, no one will ever control everything, because that will always require corruption, and free people will always be there to stop it. Even now, they have no control we cannot take back. If everyone stopped using central banks or their proxies(Well Fargo, Chase, etc), STOPPED using credit cards, and credit in general for all purchases except land, and maybe small business loans, stopped watching mainstream propoganda, stopped putting on masks, stopped showing covid shot cards, stopped paying taxes, and started carrying guns everywhere, started buying their produce and meat locally, even Rothschild himself would be forced to finally earn an honest days living.

Make the world you want, it starts with you.

NuttBoxer says

Many of you have the wrong idea that all rich people are evil, and anyone who becomes successful must be forced to share their wealth. My friends, what you aspire to is Communism, pure and simple.

Bullshite, no one said all rich people are bad. In fact, in order to get rich (the right way), you have to please people. Here is a truth: it is with this extreme wealth that Gates et al are able to bring about this dystopia, no?

WineHorror1 says

Bullshite, no one said all rich people are bad. In fact, in order to get rich (the right way), you have to please people. Here is a truth: it is with this extreme wealth that Gates et al are able to bring about this dystopia, no?

And buy off the politicians, get the laws that enshrine their enterprises, etc. Remember Gates began by ripping off Xerox Parc ideas, and Amazon absolutely depends on the International Postal Union considering China a "Developing" Nation for massive air freight subsidies, low tariffs, and flat out subsidies from USPS, Counties/Cities, etc.

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-epidemiologist-says-the-case-for-covid-vaccine-passports-was-just-demolished/

Harvard Epidemiologist Says the Case for COVID Vaccine Passports Was Just Demolished
New research found that natural immunity offers exponentially more protection than COVID-19 vaccines.
Monday, August 30, 2021

Anewly published medical study found that infection from COVID-19 confers considerably longer-lasting and stronger protection against the Delta variant of the virus than vaccines.

“The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a ‘Don’t try this at home’ label,” the Scientific American reported Thursday. “The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19.”

Put another way, vaccinated individuals were 27 times more likely to get a symptomatic COVID infection than those with natural immunity from COVID.

WineHorror1 says

Bullshite, no one said all rich people are bad. In fact, in order to get rich (the right way), you have to please people. Here is a truth: it is with this extreme wealth that Gates et al are able to bring about this dystopia, no?

It's become a favorite narrative of closet Commies recently, that rich people must be forced to redistribute their wealth. I'm always sensitive the the tendrils of Communism, in all it's insidious ideations.

NuttBoxer says

WineHorror1 says

Bullshite, no one said all rich people are bad. In fact, in order to get rich (the right way), you have to please people. Here is a truth: it is with this extreme wealth that Gates et al are able to bring about this dystopia, no?

It's become a favorite narrative of closet Commies recently, that rich people must be forced to redistribute their wealth. I'm always sensitive the the tendrils of Communism, in all it's insidious ideations.

I believe in natural redistribution of wealth. But in order to do that, you must have a free market. Which we don't have. Not even close. Unending regulations assure a rigged market via rich and connected people. This is another truth.

WineHorror1 says

Which we don't have. Not even close. Unending regulations assure a rigged market via rich and connected people. This is another truth.

Absolutely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture is pretty much inevitable when a few people get rich enough. They just buy the regulators.

And the public never notices until it's far too late.

Yes. You can't go after someone just because their rich, but if they're corrupt, have at it!