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Another Boeing 737 MAX malfunction


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2024 Mar 8, 7:51pm   1,925 views  70 comments

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A Boeing 737 MAX 8 operated by United Airlines veered off the runway after landing in Houston early Friday in the latest near-miss involving the embattled airliner.

The aircraft, which arrived from Memphis, is said to have suffered some form of gear collapse as it exited the runway at George Bush Airport, although the 160 passengers and six crew were not injured.

Shocking footage showed the plane lying flat on its wings on grass by the side of the runway, while passengers were hurried off from an emergency gate ladder.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13174293/United-Boeing-737-Max-Houston-runway-grass.html

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1   Patrick   2024 Mar 11, 7:33pm  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13185019/Boeing-whistleblower-josh-barnett-dead-south-carolina.html


Boeing whistleblower John Barnett is found dead in his truck outside a South Carolina hotel just days after testifying in lawsuit against the aviation giant

John Barnett, 62, was found dead in his truck in a hotel parking lot Saturday

Cops made the announcement Monday, saying he was in Charleston for the suit

The ex-quality manager at Boeing's North Charleston plant gave a deposition to Boeing as recently as last week, after claiming they were using second-rate parts
2   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 12, 2:59am  

So, let's get this straight. In 2024, thus far, we have had the following separate incidents with Boeing:

- Passenger door blown out, mid-air
- cockpit window cracked, take-off
- oxygen leak, pre-flight (Blinken incident)
- passenger notices bolts missing on wing, pre-flight
- lost wheel during take-off, wobbled off
- lost wheel after take-off, mid-air
- plane arrived with cargo door open
- landing gear malfunction
- engine failure mid-flight
- engine fire, mid-flight

And the stock still trades at 61 P/E. Incredible, really.

https://x.com/jameslavish/status/1766185611562717228?s=20
3   richwicks   2024 Mar 12, 3:38am  

AmericanKulak says

So, let's get this straight. In 2024, thus far, we have had the following separate incidents with Boeing:

- Passenger door blown out, mid-air
- cockpit window cracked, take-off
- oxygen leak, pre-flight (Blinken incident)
- passenger notices bolts missing on wing, pre-flight
- lost wheel during take-off, wobbled off
- lost wheel after take-off, mid-air
- plane arrived with cargo door open
- landing gear malfunction
- engine failure mid-flight
- engine fire, mid-flight

And the stock still trades at 61 P/E. Incredible, really.

https://x.com/jameslavish/status/1766185611562717228?s=20


Boeing is an Offence Contractor, it won't make a difference how many people they kill. They will get government contracts forever, their main job is killing people.
4   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2024 Mar 12, 3:39am  

Patrick says

The ex-quality manager at Boeing's North Charleston plant gave a deposition to Boeing as recently as last week, after claiming they were using second-rate parts



5   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 6:29am  

I've flown in the Max plenty. It's a safe plane. We live in a time where minor incidents are reported via social media. This stuff was happening 20 years ago with all airplane manufacturers. We just didn't hear about it unless it was catastrophic.

In 2000 you wouldn't hear about it unless you knew someone on the flight. Now one person can post on X or Facebook and the whole world knows. It's the safest mode of travel. Things fail on anything mechanical. Given the speed and weight it is frankly unbelievable that there aren't more accidents. Some of this stuff is possibly user/pilot error as well.

Given my points game I fly about 30-40 one way take off and landings per year with connections. I land at one of the hardest airports in the nation to land at. All on a 737. Not always the Max, but it's a completely fine plane. You had two moronic foreign pilots crash planes across the ocean. Their regulators and companies didn't train them for the Max. Almost all those in the list in the comment are pilot or ground errors and missing things. Human error. All could have been avoided.

We're losing our skilled labor at every level. It's why I'm spending probably $150k more than I should for a build. I want quality. The engineering is there. Planes are like putting a lego set together. Every part is the same. It's the maintenance that is the problem. That's on the airline, not the aircraft.
6   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 12, 6:45am  

If Boeing planes are so safe, why are whistleblowers against the company being Epstein'd?
7   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 7:01am  

NuttBoxer says

If Boeing planes are so safe, why are whistleblowers against the company being Epstein'd?

One was likely age and maybe the other was covid vaccine? Who knows? I like me some conspiracies, but my guess is they were disgruntled employees and not whistle blowers.

The list in AK's comment 2 are all human error besides maybe the windshield. But that could have been a bird strike or mowing around the runway and caught a rock. Who knows.

I'd rather fly an airplane 10 out of 10 times than drive a semi truck or even car. They're not crashing them with US pilots and these are minor incidents without injury. Shit happens and planes are redundant and can operate with fuck ups. Almost all in that list are humans not doing their job and there were no injuries. That's on the airline as I said. Not the plane.

Also, they're not reinventing the wheel. If the parts are less standard than previous models that almost impossible to believe. One US crash with fatalities could shut them down. Almost all airliner crashes are pilot error or maintenance. Not equipment. From that list it sounds like people didn't do their job on the ground.

My wife is literally in the air on a 737 now. We're texting. I have no worries.
8   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 12, 7:03am  

WookieMan says

One was likely age and maybe the other was covid vaccine? Who knows? I like me some conspiracies, but my guess is they were disgruntled employees and not whistle blowers.


Not asking for opinion, look this up. Gunshot to the head, while testifying in ongoing case against Boeing. Dude was in quality control management at Boeing for 30 years...
9   richwicks   2024 Mar 12, 8:07am  

WookieMan says


One was likely age and maybe the other was covid vaccine? Who knows? I like me some conspiracies, but my guess is they were disgruntled employees and not whistle blowers.


John Barnett, 62, was found dead in his hotel parking lot of a "self-inflicted" gun wound.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/11/us-news/boeing-whistleblower-john-barnett-found-dead-after-testifying-against-company/

He was murdered. Boeing is part of the Offense Industry. Their job IS murder. He was killed.

This isn't a difficult far fetched conspiracy. He was murdered not only to silence him, but as a warning to others. Of course there's no absolute proof, it's just very fucking obvious. Same reason that Seth Rich was murdered in the way he was, to send a message "don't squeal".

Things are blatantly obvious, but people are either incapable of thinking or unwilling to do it. People pretend this shit doesn't exist, because they are cowards, or stupid. I used to think they were just cowards, but now I realize after they call took the an untested vaccine, MOST of them are fucking stupid. I have been operating for 30 years under the mistaken belief that people were either ignorant about facts, or cowards and unwilling to discuss them, but I was wrong about both, most people are stupid.

The hotel should have CCTV footage, but we'll never see that, at least, not until it's heavily tampered with.
11   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 8:58am  

NuttBoxer says

WookieMan says

One was likely age and maybe the other was covid vaccine? Who knows? I like me some conspiracies, but my guess is they were disgruntled employees and not whistle blowers.

Not asking for opinion, look this up. Gunshot to the head, while testifying in ongoing case against Boeing. Dude was in quality control management at Boeing for 30 years...

Lots of assumptions. They don't re-engineer parts on an existing planes. Engines, avionics, wing tips and that's generally the biggies. So you're saying the 737's from 30 years ago were bad too? No crashes though of US trained pilots. These issues are airline maintenance issues.

As far as a gunshot to the head who cares. Where was he testifying? DC? Seattle? These are ghetto areas. Could have just been a crime of happenstance. Wrong place, wrong time. Fact is almost everything in the Max is the same besides the engine. Engine failures happen more frequently than you'd think or know.

Go after the airlines for not maintaining their investment. It's like not getting an oil change on a car, getting new brakes or tires. The parts haven't changed by probably 95%. So not sure what he'd be whistle blowing.

I don't like monopolies, but this is an industry where it makes sense manufacturing wise to keep parts similar or same. So not sure what whistle was being blown. I don't own any Boeing stock, or is it in any of my retirement funds. So I'm not biased. It's a good plane.
12   Patrick   2024 Mar 12, 12:11pm  

Patrick says

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett is found dead in his truck outside a South Carolina hotel just days after testifying in lawsuit against the aviation giant




13   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 12:44pm  

Patrick says


Patrick says

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett is found dead in his truck outside a South Carolina hotel just days after testifying in lawsuit against the aviation giant

They would have killed him before testifying if it was a concern. Plain and simple. I think people are looking too much into this. Boeing has this cute thing called insurance and a fleet of lawyers. One or two people out of a massive company won't bring them down so why would they kill people? That's literally the definition of stupidity.

Meet some pilots. The entire fleet wouldn't be unusable as there'd be no one willing to fly it. That's not opinion, that's fact. It's a safe plane. They're trained to make sure the plane is in operational order. The media isn't and neither is RFK Jr. The airlines didn't do proper maintenance. Again human error and no fault of the plane.

RFK Jr. is also massively wrong on the deaths of people. The MCAS system was not properly trained to those foreign pilots. Again, an airline issue and pilot error. They built an airplane that was working fine for American pilots and then the Max was grounded globally because two shit airlines in shit countries don't train pilots properly. So yeah blame the planes. Don't blame the pilots that crashed or the mechanics here for doing a bad job.

These things are engineered and built like brick shit houses. 2 people from Boeing called "whistleblowers" have no clue how the entire plane is put together and engineered from top to bottom and know if the parts were inferior. Every 737 Max has done thousands of take offs and landings and was flying in 2017. We're 4 years back from the grounding. For like the 10th time any issues are on the airlines at this point. The crashes were caused by the airlines and 4 idiots that didn't know the system. Again, no financial interest in Boeing. I'll find a link on this stuff later and post it.
14   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 12, 12:46pm  

WookieMan says

Lots of assumptions.


WookieMan says

One was likely age and maybe the other was covid vaccine? Who knows? I like me some conspiracies, but my guess is they were disgruntled employees and not whistle blowers.

WookieMan says

As far as a gunshot to the head who cares. Where was he testifying? DC? Seattle? These are ghetto areas. Could have just been a crime of happenstance. Wrong place, wrong time.


Yep, you are right about that, a LOT of assumptions.
15   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 1:04pm  

Here's the United flight explained by a commercial pilot that examines literally almost every aviation incident on the planet and speaks at Oshkosh and other aviation events.https://youtu.be/Woms1sBqUdo?si=0uGnopWAjNksHtsx

I'm an aviation junkie. I watch at least 3-4 videos a day on it. The United flight came in hot to a 90º taxiway in weather in a rush due to traffic behind him. That had nothing to do with the plane. Again, pilot error.
16   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 12, 1:21pm  

Ahh, so THAT'S why Barnett shot himself, pilot error!
17   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 12, 1:41pm  

NuttBoxer says

Ahh, so THAT'S why Barnett shot himself, pilot error!


'Shot himself' in his car, too. Hit man was too lazy to cap him in his house. Most suicides in a car involve either deliberate CO poisoning or (rare but runner up) driving off a cliff or bridge, etc.

Too lazy. Or they deliberately wanted that. To send a message to any other would be whistle-blower.

And wasn't Boeing. Deep State faction with ties to Boeing did it.

But WTF do I know?
18   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 2:04pm  

The door explanation. Highly likely a maintenance issue. Or a consistent route with turbulence and rough landings.

https://youtu.be/WhfK9jlZK1o?si=Y9-TlGOqLoRjR0Zr

Again all human error and not design. If you don't check your tires and the tread is gone you're more likely to have a blow out or accident in poor conditions with your car. This design has been around forever. Alaska Airlines didn't keep up on the plane. No other airlines found an issue when they grounded them. We're talking hundreds of Max jets. Might even be in the thousands at this point.
19   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 2:10pm  

NuttBoxer says

Ahh, so THAT'S why Barnett shot himself, pilot error!

Quote me anything that would prove it's not a suicide? Anything. A list was provided of issues and I brought links from a guy that is nationally renowned for understanding aircraft. I don't deal in hyperbolic junk because someone testified against Boeing. Let's go further down the rabbit hole of conspiracy. Maybe he was an Airbus employee spy that got hired by Boeing? We can do this all day. It's a safe plane. The issues of late and ever have been human error, poor training and poor maintenance by airlines. I don't blame Toyota once I'm out of the warranty period which almost every Max is except those recent delivered.

This isn't complicated.
20   WookieMan   2024 Mar 12, 9:39pm  

MCAS explanation. Don't shoot the messenger when you don't know what you're talking about. https://youtu.be/s3LrsvaCUoo?si=2UcS1lQrz7ffIeA0

Any current issues are pilot error. Provide some links. Anyone. 2 "whistleblowers" in a company of 145k head count die and it's a conspiracy by a company that has the money to just make them go away by NOT killing them. Really, really logical. Guess what, 50 probably died in the last year alone. Were they all "whistleblowers?"

No one has provided evidence a crime was committed. Nothing.
21   richwicks   2024 Mar 13, 1:11am  

WookieMan says


They would have killed him before testifying if it was a concern. Plain and simple. I think people are looking too much into this.


Think a little bit.

He was staying at a hotel to testify against Boeing. If he shot himself, that means he had to bring a gun with him, meaning he was intending to commit suicide before he even got there. He testified once already, and was due to testify again. Why did he testify once, then kill himself before his second deposition?

Whoever had him murdered heard the first part of his testimony, judged it was less risky to murder him than to allow him to testify again and it was done so as to intimidate other witnesses.

His body was found in a hotel parking lot. MOST hotels have CCTV cameras, it would be relatively easy to put this to rest, if they just released the video immediately, but they didn't. With current technology, it's easy enough to fake the video, and since they didn't release the video immediately, it means the credibility if anything being released in the future is suspect.

If he WASN'T murdered, and actually did commit suicide, you'd think Boeing would want to prove it, THEY would be pushing to release the CCTV footage ASAP, but nope.
22   Patrick   2024 Mar 13, 2:29am  

https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/us-news/lawyers-for-boeing-whistleblower-john-barnett-question-suicide/


Boeing whistleblower’s lawyers question whether he committed suicide, call for thorough probe: ‘No one can believe it’
23   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 2:57am  

richwicks says

He was staying at a hotel to testify against Boeing. If he shot himself, that means he had to bring a gun with him, meaning he was intending to commit suicide before he even got there. He testified once already, and was due to testify again. Why did he testify once, then kill himself before his second deposition?

Boeing would have had him killed BEFORE he even testified if he was deemed a credible threat IF they're in that business. My guess would be that it was a disgruntled employee that hatched a plan to make money off making up bull shit and got his ass handed to him during his first testimony. Like lying to your parents and they sit you down and find out the truth. Except in this situation he may have gotten in serious trouble for false claims and then decided to off himself.

And yes they have CCTV cameras likely. BUT did they record? Likely not in most hotels. Remember hotel employees are low wage jobs. If it was a Holiday Inn or something similar the only thing they likely care about is the POS systems working at the front desk. They likely just had a monitor to view public spaces in the back room behind the desk and it wasn't recording. This is how most businesses end up after a while. Operational to view live, but not recording because they don't know how to use the equipment. Hotels are a service industry, the tech is the last thing on most basic hotel chains minds besides checking in and tracking what room is clean, ready and available.

It's extremely far fetched to think Boeing or any of its contractors are going around killing people. It's also on the hotel and authorities to release any CCTV footage. If they thought it was murder they would have said that. If I was going to shoot myself, I wouldn't do it in the hotel. The car would make the most sense.

Besides the cracked windshield the list AK posted is all pilot and airline error and can be explained. This wasn't about the planes themselves as far as I've read into it.

The "whistleblower" seems to be talking about factory safety issues. Not the planes themselves from your own link.

John Barnett, 62, had raised safety concerns at the airline’s factories and provided his first testimony just days before he was found dead from an apparent “self-inflicted” gunshot wound, the Charleston County coroner told the BBC.


It has nothing to do with the planes themselves and is an employee safety issue at the factories from your link. Seems like a low level employee that got his ass handed to himself during his first testimony and was potentially facing financial loss by continuing the game.

And like I said earlier, it easily could have been an Airbus paid operation and he got caught up in something he didn't understand the consequences and just off'd himself. Just take the time to watch the links/videos I posted. The safety issues are all human error.
24   Booger   2024 Mar 13, 3:36am  

I bet he had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.
25   richwicks   2024 Mar 13, 4:05am  

WookieMan says

Boeing would have had him killed BEFORE he even testified if he was deemed a credible threat IF they're in that business.


Boeing may not have killed him. Perhaps the union bosses had him killed? Perhaps the intelligence agencies had him killed? Who knows. It doesn't have to be a direct connection to Boeing.

I'm pointing out that it's very unlikely he committed suicide and he was quite probably killed to silence other whisteblowers and as a result of what not only what he said, but what he was expected to say.

WookieMan says

My guess would be that it was a disgruntled employee that hatched a plan to make money off making up bull shit and got his ass handed to him during his first testimony. Like lying to your parents and they sit you down and find out the truth. Except in this situation he may have gotten in serious trouble for false claims and then decided to off himself.


In what conceivable way could he profit off from this?

WookieMan says

And yes they have CCTV cameras likely. BUT did they record?


If they didn't record, it's for the same reason all the cameras on Epstein did't.

WookieMan says

It's extremely far fetched to think Boeing or any of its contractors are going around killing people.


Do you live in fairy land on sugar gum lane? Epstein was murdered, Seth Rich was murdered, Gary Webb was murdered, Dorothy Kilgallen was murdered, JFK was murdered, MLK was murdered, Malcolm X was murdered, Dr. David Kelly was murdered, people are murdered by the intelligence agencies and the MIC all the time. Their job IS to turn blood in money after all.

WookieMan says

It has nothing to do with the planes themselves and is an employee safety issue at the factories from your link. Seems like a low level employee that got his ass handed to himself during his first testimony and was potentially facing financial loss by continuing the game.


He wasn't a low level employee, he was a quality control engineer and filed numerous complaints to Boeing only to have his complaints ignored.
26   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 13, 6:57am  

WookieMan says


Quote me anything that would prove it's not a suicide?


Patrick says


Boeing whistleblower’s lawyers question whether he committed suicide, call for thorough probe: ‘No one can believe it’


You're circling the drain again. You base everything on your personal experience. I've literally sat in a room with people who said to a group "God wants us to stay here.", then a half year later when they couldn't get pregnant, "God wants us to go be missionaries.". What changed, not God, just their personal experience.

There is ultimate truth in the world, and it doesn't change to meet the incredibly narrow funnel of your personal life.
27   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 7:14am  

richwicks says

He wasn't a low level employee, he was a quality control engineer and filed numerous complaints to Boeing only to have his complaints ignored.

This where you lose me dude. The engineering on these planes has been around for 50 years. Most advances have been in engines since the 90's. Boeing doesn't even make the engines. They just attach them. So what engineering did this guy do? Parts for what Boeing does are already provable and reliable. It's CAD anyway and machining. It's not difficult. I did manufacturing of signs in early college years using similar materials. It's not complicated. You've for sure have seen sign I personally help make.

It's the design. The guy didn't sound like he designed anything. Probably just copied off the engineering before him. That's the name of the game. Every name you list that was murdered was a prominent national figure for the most part. The way this is being portrayed in the comments here is that it's some Boeing conspiracy. This sounds like a workplace dispute by all metrics. Give me a link otherwise I'm not buying it. There's also no proof of foul play that I can find.
28   richwicks   2024 Mar 13, 7:26am  

WookieMan says

This where you lose me dude. The engineering on these planes has been around for 50 years.


The engineering has been around for 50 years, the process of building them changes constantly.

You know why products are so fucking expensive when they are new? I worked on a video game system where it was sold for less than 1/2 the cost of what it took to make, that was to gain marketshare, but after a year or two, it was sold at a profit. How was that done? Cost reduction.

That's what Boeing is doing, except when you reduce costs too much you don't get a video game console returned while it's still under warranty, you get people killed.

WookieMan says

So what engineering did this guy do?


He oversaw quality control.

WookieMan says

It's not difficult. I did manufacturing of signs in early college years using similar materials. It's not complicated. You've for sure have seen sign I personally help make.


Probably I have, but how do you screw up a sign? If it's an electronic sign, you certainly can fuck up on that.

WookieMan says

It's the design. The guy didn't sound like he designed anything.


No, it's the process of putting it together. You can have defective parts. On the last large product I worked on, part of my job was to make the tools to identify bad parts BEFORE they were incorporated into the system that was made. Parts can be defective, and you test at every level. There's a million things that can go wrong. One day, the plan might start producing dead chips. It happens, although not very often.

WookieMan says

Give me a link otherwise I'm not buying it.


I don't care enough to convince you to even bother to find a link. Who cares what you believe?

Boeing has fucked up, and it will become clear they have fucked up in time, just a bunch more people will have to get killed. I was listening to Due Dissidents today and they were talking about Boeing and how superior Airbus is - well, Airbus isn't superior, I knew a guy who knew a guy whose job was to go through software to verify unhandled error conditions and he did that for Airbus.

Stuff can continue to work for a while with a bunch of incompetents being paid 25% of what qualified engineers get paid, but that only goes on for a few years. It works for a while because the company has a "good reputation", but it ends and they develop a bad reputation. RCA's name fell into the mud when they started licensing their name to foreign manufacturers of televisions back in the 1990's. Sony did the same for DVDRW drives. I got fucked by "Sony's" drives, but drives were kind of legacy by then.
29   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 7:40am  

NuttBoxer says

WookieMan says

Quote me anything that would prove it's not a suicide?

Patrick says

Boeing whistleblower’s lawyers question whether he committed suicide, call for thorough probe: ‘No one can believe it’

You're circling the drain again. You base everything on your personal experience. I've literally sat in a room with people who said to a group "God wants us to stay here.", then a half year later when they couldn't get pregnant, "God wants us to go be missionaries.". What changed, not God, just their personal experience.

There is ultimate truth in the world, and it doesn't change to meet the incredibly narrow funnel of your personal life.

I've experience more than anyone here. I've experience 2 suicides. Lost 4 friends to overdoses. The guy pulled into his parking spot and was thinking about his life and killed himself. This is not some nefarious thing. I've had death threats against me from spouses of divorce clients when my dad was around as an attorney. Police involved. You lived in CA. This isn't fucking Hollywood.

You have zero clue of my life. I know what this is. It was a work place "whistleblower" situation. Has nothing to do with the planes which is what the OP insinuated. That's what I'm addressing. He likely made shit up and the first testimony didn't go well for HIM and he said fuck my life. You do understand people lose their minds, right? Likely was questioning that he was right and was wrong and his world got turn upside down. Grow up with an attorney and still have a sister as an attorney. I was going to be an attorney. I could pass the bar exam tomorrow, drunk.

I've had massive trauma and death in my life. I see a therapist for it and I have no issue admitting that. You can talk out your ass about my "narrow funnel" but I've dealt with more than anyone I've ever met. I've experienced more.

I've posted links debunking the accidents that were of significance from a guy that speaks on aviation accidents and is a commercial pilot with 400k+ subscribers. In an industry that less than 1% of the population even gets into. No one else has posted any links that it was a crime or carried out by Boeing, Union, or contractor. I like conspiracy theories but this one is pure retardation. And no one has proven me wrong. So what idiotic comment is next?
30   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 7:44am  

richwicks says

I don't care enough to convince you to even bother to find a link. Who cares what you believe?

Because you know I'm right. I actually wish Eman was here to see this as I believe he was correct about the negativity. I like debates, but I ain't doing the work for you. Prove to me this was a hit job. You can't.

I proved that the recent issues were pilot errors and maintenance errors. Prove otherwise or I don't give a shit what any of you have to say.
31   HeadSet   2024 Mar 13, 7:45am  

richwicks says

You can have defective parts.

Yep, that may have been the issue. All parts used in aircraft, even nuts, bolts, switches, and wire must be "aviation grade." In the Air Force, parts were randomly tested and any parts that were not aviation grade were sold as scrap. I remember way back when some company bought some scrap parts and resold them to Boeing as new. If I recall, someone went to jail for it.
32   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 7:53am  

richwicks says

He oversaw quality control.

Okay. So he was like a teacher. Couldn't actually be an engineer. Got a degree, knew someone and got the non-engineering job. Makes even more sense now. Further explains what I'm talking about. You just don't want to listen.
33   richwicks   2024 Mar 13, 8:04am  

WookieMan says


Because you know I'm right.


I just don't care. I know what Boeing has done, and the less information that comes to light, the more accidents will happen. Boeing is run by a bunch of dumb shit MBAs now, not engineers. I'll just watch the disasters unfold. The MBAs will walk away once they've done so much damage that it has to be addressed, they'll get new jobs, and the government will dump in a shit-ton of money to keep the company afloat, because it's an Offense Contractor. They don't make any money on commercial airlines, they make it from war.
34   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 8:24am  

richwicks says

They don't make any money on commercial airlines, they make it from war.

Yes, one series of a new plane the Max has over 1,400 in the air. Based off a previous generation of tech for basically the same airframe. Nah, that doesn't make a profit at all. Pilots coming in hot and airlines not maintaining them is clearly the fault of Boeing. No wonder people pop pills before flights for the safest mode of transportation. A bunch of fear mongers.

Boeing makes MIC aircraft, but they're not the biggest player in that realm. They have 4 classes of public aircraft with a backlog of over 6,000 orders on tech they already developed. No profit there. lol. The engineering has been done. That's why I say it's a disgruntled employee. Not a "whistleblower." They don't need him.
35   Misc   2024 Mar 13, 8:34am  

A conspiracy that Boeing killed him plays better to the audience than that he simply killed himself because his testimony was crap.
37   WookieMan   2024 Mar 13, 12:31pm  

Misc says


A conspiracy that Boeing killed him plays better to the audience than that he simply killed himself because his testimony was crap.

That's kind of my point. It's clickbait bull shit. I literally debunked every thing from the OP's thread. Airbus aircraft lose engines in flight and the engines are not made by Airbus OR Boeing anyway. Maintained by the airlines. The MCAS debacle was 4 dip shits for 2 separate airlines in foreign countries that don't follow the same training protocol as US pilots. We were already flying more Max types than Lion Air or Ethiopia and no problems. We trained our pilots on the system.

It's a company of 145k employees. They probably have 10-20 suicides a year anyway. Did Boeing off them? Life is hard for some. Maybe there's divorce. Maybe a loved on died and his testimony got negative reaction and he feels like an idiot. Jumping to a plot where someone opened the door to his car and shot him once is a massive leap. There's no evidence and no one is providing any.

I could be wrong, but I'm approaching this logically. Pilots wouldn't get in the cockpit if they thought the plane wasn't safe. That's it. They do it daily. We also don't even know how many "whistleblowers" have cases against Boeing going on right now. Again, 145k workforce. It could be 100+ employees trying to take action for some made up reason. I'm just making numbers up, but even that amount would only be 0.06% of the entire work force. 2 "whistleblowers" out of 145k is 0.001% of the company.

So what are the other 99.999% employees doing doing at Boeing? Just shitty work and say fuck it? Gotta be fucking kidding me. I know I'm right because no one is countering anything I presented. I've admitted I don't know about the window, but I know I could find out by tomorrow. Yet I get narrow funnel of my personal life comments. Grow the fuck up and think people. It was disgruntled employees. Talk to anyone that's in HR. This happens in a 145k employee operation.
38   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 14, 7:08am  

Boeing harassed him for years, but who cares about that when all you do is read titles and form opinions with zero research you literally claim to already know everything because you are you. That's the most arrogant statement I've read yet on patnet, closing in on god complex...
39   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 14, 7:14am  

Boeing footage of door repair "mysteriously" disappears. Apparently their pilots are running the security cameras now...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/congressman-sold-boeing-stock-hours-doj-probe-was-announced
40   WookieMan   2024 Mar 14, 7:31am  

NuttBoxer says

Boeing harassed him for years

Maybe because he was a union dick? Couldn't be fired. There are so many layers to an employee and employer relationship. You clearly haven't run a business or know big business owners. Boeing likely has a 1k head count for HR. This guy was a thorn in their side, it doesn't mean they killed him.

ANYONE post a link that says the police are investigating murder charges or have proof of anything with foul play? There's nothing. Making claims, then going to a court and probably getting laughed at is humiliating. So he killed himself.

I'm not a fucking idiot. I have an FAA license and did ground school. I literally watch at least 30-60 minutes per day on aviation whether it's general aviation or commercial. I basically only fly in the 737 and I'll shoot the shit with the captain and 1st officer. Get the kids to sit in the cockpit. I'll be on one Tuesday. You're out of your element. This is clearly a disgruntled employee that was angry with life and went after a big corp and realized he'd lose and killed himself. And yes, being a "whistleblower" will get you paid. Erin Brockovich. Not exactly the same but you can get paid. He lost. So killed himself.

Remember Takata (or whatever) airbags shooting shrapnel into people? The aviation industry is insanely safe including Boeing. Shit is gonna happen though in manufacturing. There are redundancies and back ups with planes though. This guy off'd himself in the car. No one is pulling off a public execution. Buy the conspiracy, I'm not. And I know I'm right.

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