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The Koch etc. are still praying that Trump ends up convicted of something...anything so the voters will swap candidates when the press goes full carnivore over the conviction.

This isn't like calling Arizona with 1% of the vote in after reports all day of "Box #3" and massive machine fails.

This is a caucus, not a primary.

You've got one guy ahead by 7+ pts of the next two candidates combined, which matches both the entrance and exit polls, including those done by small outfits, not just big media or big academia.

That's now. At the end of the night, once things finish up in the more rural west of the state, we'll see Nimratta and DeSantis around 15-18% each.

It's sad that DeSantis couldn't wait his turn, or was manipulated into not waiting his turn. The guy is young, the MAGA heir apparent, and well liked.

Just heard on RAV, that Democrats got hundreds, maybe a thousand, Democrats to switch to GOP in day-of registration changes allowed in Iowa, to caucus for Nimratta.

Of course they did.

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Because our apparent front runner is one Big Mac away from a stroke or fall and has to get through a shit ton of indictments (including serious charges on his records at Mar Lago) before we have this thing secured up. Nice to have some backup and finish the primary process.

Anyhoo - looks like we got our establishment candidate locked in tonight. How soon before Trump makes Lindsey Graham the Secretary of Defense?

Have you gotten in contact with Joy and Rachell over at MSNBC, you would make an excellent contributor. That's the type of linguistic trash they peddle.

Tenpoundbass says

Have you gotten in contact with Joy and Rachell over at MSNBC, you would make an excellent contributor. That's the type of linguistic trash they peddle.

FFS - Trump supporters are all Puritanical now and above criticizing a candidate's looks?

Let me know when the FBI is going to do a midnight raid on Biden and Obama for all the papers they hold. You know they found Obama era classified Foreign Policy docs in a Biden funded think tank on a College Campus from when he was Vice President? And in his garage? And Veeps have no entitlement to their President's Administration Record?

The GOP has been Demlite ever since they had a coup to get rid of Gingrich, who actually delivered much of his Contract. We can't even get a GOP speaker who will restore the budget to pre-COVID levels. $32T in debt!

AmericanKulak says

It's sad that DeSantis couldn't wait his turn, or was manipulated into not waiting his turn.

I think you've got your manipulators mixed up. DeSantis tried to manipulate the MAGA voting base, that he was a genuine article.
The Establishment didn't have an exit plan for the Covid, Lockdown, Masks, and mandated toxic clot serum. DeSantis was a set up, to be the guy that shut it down, the media couldn't do it, the Biden Admin couldn't do it, and certainly not the CDC and WHO. They will want to say in the Nuremberg 2.0 trials, that still to this day they believed in what they were doing. Based on the Science that they had. Remember DeSantis shut it down, but there was no official unwinding or offloading from any Agency that ran the Scamdemic.

As far as the Air he got out of "Don't say Gay" goes. He played right into the Media skewing the face value of what the bill was intended for. He allowed them and even played along, to them calling his legislation to protect kids in school from raving Pedo lunatics and Psycho publishers peddling gay porn filth to every grade and pregrade classroom in Florida. He never once shot the press down, when they challenged him on his heartless meanspirited bill that would make it illegal to say Gay in a public school He was participating douchebag to reduce the intent and meaning of that bill, to a meaningless 1st A violation. Even now most of the Blue Counties in Florida are still turning kids out.

He's hamstrung two good election winners here in my district alone. I'm sure there are others. He tried to take Sheriff Tony out after he won the election and the Establishment pick lost.. DeSantis picked Tony to replace Israel(after MSD) because again he was pandering(Sheriff Tony is black). But turned out to be the best Sheriff hands down Broward has ever seen. So after he won the reelection, DeSantis tried to disqualify him, because he had to kill a thug when he was teen, that was trying to kill him. There was also the School Sup, that he disqualified after he won, because his establishment pick lost. Rod was going to make sure there was Pedo pushing and Porn peddling in the schools. Like I said before DeSantis was just giving lip service. For all we know, the publisher was probably just one of many scumbag DeSantis' donors in 2024. He was successfully removed. His infraction was he got in fight in his younger 20's a cop was called. The case was dismissed and didn't' go anywhere. But I guess it stayed on his recode. Unlike DeSantis who has his whole checkered past expunged or sealed.

Oh my point is, DeSantis had no chance in 2028, he would have never made it to 2028 without exposing himself as a Bushite, from the Rovian School of Koch sniffers. Even if he didn't run in 2024.

AmericanKulak says

It's sad that DeSantis couldn't wait his turn, or was manipulated into not waiting his turn. The guy is young, the MAGA heir apparent, and well liked.

There is never a perfect time.

In 2028, DeSantis will be out of the Governor's seat for 2 years which is a lifetime in politics. What is Scott Walker doing these days?

Trump hadn't even declared he was running when DeSantis announced last year. Trump was still busy making excuses for having all his big name candidates flame out in the "Red Wave" midterms and getting indicted. DeSantis' powerful win and competent leadership in Florida was the ONLY bright spot for political Conservatism since Trump gave us the Fauci lockdowns.

So it was natural that DeSantis would throw his hat in the ring for the 24 election.

Tenpoundbass says

Oh my point is, DeSantis had no chance in 2028, he would have never made it to 2028 without exposing himself as a Bushite, from the Rovian School of Koch sniffers. Even if he didn't run in 2024.

Then there is this level of retarded charges against DeSantis.

Don't even know how to respond.

We deserve everything that is coming to us in November.

The RNC has less money on hand than some state GOPs.

They're burning through cash to make sure there's nothing for the general, on purpose.

The GOP donor class does not want that border closed. They do not want cuts to government contracts. They do not want a reindustrialized America. And they definitely don't want the deficit taken care of.

AmericanKulak says

The RNC has less money on hand than some state GOPs.

They're burning through cash to make sure there's nothing for the general, on purpose.

OMFG! Already with the excuses?!

Trump is the leader of the GOP - right? Didn't Trump personally vouch for Rona?

What the fuck are we doing?

With 84% of votes in, Trump at 50.9%, Desantis at 21.2% and Haley at 19.1%

Desantis is doing better than I thought he would. The media has been really pumping up Haley and making Desantis look out of place.

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socal2 says

AmericanKulak says

The RNC has less money on hand than some state GOPs.

They're burning through cash to make sure there's nothing for the general, on purpose.

OMFG! Already with the excuses?!

Trump is the leader of the GOP - right? Didn't Trump personally vouch for Rona?

What the fuck are we doing?

No excuses. Just explaining that Ronna McRomney doesn't want Trump to win. She's busy getting plastic surgery and making sure GOP talking heads and campaign managers are fully employed.

I don't need to make excuses for the top Republican Presidential Popular Vote getter in US History - despite the steal.

Have to wonder if Trump totally whomping the field isn't a form of bating to get the Dems to do their worst in every possible election atrocity in a glaringly obvious manner, like, Helen Keller obvious. Of course, they are already obvious.

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Desantis is doing better than I thought he would. The media has been really pumping up Haley and making Desantis look out of place.

Also consider virtually ALL of the negative ads paid for by Trump and Haley have been against DeSantis.

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Tenpoundbass says

Oh my point is, DeSantis had no chance in 2028, he would have never made it to 2028 without exposing himself as a Bushite, from the Rovian School of Koch sniffers. Even if he didn't run in 2024.

Then there is this level of retarded charges against DeSantis.

I terminated my friendship with a lifelong Tallahassee GOP insider. Because he was bashing DeSantis when in the beginning I thought DeSantis was authentic. Everything he said turned out to be true. I thought the guy was pissing sour grapes, because DeSantis' people weren't going include him like his good ole days. As the guy was always scheming how to get back into the Florida GOP leadership. He was another one of these guys, likes what Trump is saying but doesn't like that it's Trump saying it. Well Trump is the only one saying it so piss up a rope. Again I don't think he liked Trump because it excluded him from Tallahassee GOP games. He was right on DeSantis though.

AmericanKulak says

No excuses. Just explaining that Ronna McRomney doesn't want Trump to win.

Then why the fuck did Trump vouch for her? Trump single handedly pulled Rona across the finish line with his endorsement when folks like DeSantis were publically and loudly against her in the last election.

Is this just another example of Trump picking losers and we act like none of this is an indictment on Trump's judgement?

Make it all make sense please......

What we need is an explanation for how almost 30 years of only briefly interrupted GOP control of the House got us:

$32T in debt
Wide Open Borders and an illegal population of at least 20-30 Million.
Where are the High Tech Manufacturing Jobs of the Future guaranteed by one way Free Trade?
Gay Marriage
Transsexuals

My goodness, we have GOP Governors of the Dakotas trying to find ways NOT to sign laws that would ban men on women's college teams, after promising to sign them.

We have GOP Senators working with Upchuck to give the families of H1B holders automatically granted work permits, and giving 5000 illegals legal work permits EVERY DAY as a "Common Sense Immigration Compromise"

In 2024 we have a Candidate who campaigns on her Nickname, saying after the Big Tech Tyranny, that everybody should have to use their real ID on Social Media, and we need millions of illegals.

We have an RNC Chair that spends bupkes on registering voters, ground game, etc. but pays for endless debates between distant challengers to a former elected President. Meanwhile we have a Zoomer kid who does 1000x more than she does with 1/1000th the money - Scott Pressler.

We're not putting up with controlled opposition, and a GOP that snatches defeat from the jaws of Victory.

I will never forget David French's whinging about Trump's weakness on Abortion and Soc Con issues, and a few years later Trump's picks overturn Roe v. Wade, and French comes out for Drag Queens with sex crime convictions reading to kids being a "Blessing of Liberty"

AmericanKulak says

My goodness, we have GOP Governors of the Dakotas trying to find ways NOT to sign laws that would ban men on women's college teams, after promising to sign them.

Twenty bucks one of them is going to be Trump's VP pick.........if she is not too busy fucking Lewandowski. They both share the same views on trannies.

It's going to be Sarah Huckabee. She's been Governor of a State, she's calm relative to his abrasive (but effective) style, and she already knows how to handle the Press, having sharpened her sword as his Press Secretary.

It will NOT be Nimratta. He knows better than I that's the LBJ in waiting.

The McCain-Romney-Ryan era is dead. It's never coming back.

socal2 says

Also consider virtually ALL of the negative ads paid for by Trump and Haley have been against DeSantis.

Trump is proof negative ads only sooth those sulking over the candidates that they loathe.
DeSantis did himself no favors flipping hamburgers with no zest, zeal or zing, he looked like he doing community service.
It was so bad, the next event he was trolled with the infamous. "Hey Ron Be more Likable" banner from a plane.
Then he tops is off by wearing Stiletto Cowboy boots.

In comparison Trump goes into Pizza shops and buys everyone a slice or a sandwich, and makes a point to shake everyone's hand. But if Trump were to man a LaPlancha grill and were grilling up hamburgers, he would be chasing people down to hand them a burger and shake their hand, with a spatula still in the other hand. he wouldn't be the miserable mope DeSantis looked like.

DeSantis should have stayed home and worked on knocking his second term out of the park. Remember what people liked about him, was his perceived governorship. He let go of the only redeeming quality he had, to go on a one man band tour with a piano that was out of tune. He never worked on his successor, and be sure to come back and tell me I was right. When I say it again.

DeSantis has done nothing to set up a GOP successor or even anything that looks like field to keep the Governorship, when he leaves office. I'm telling you now Charlie Christ or Andrew Gillum or someone equally vile will be our next governor. Florida will be the worst blue state of them all in less than a year after that.

Tenpoundbass says

He was right on DeSantis though.

DeSantis became a Congressman under JEB! days, if I remember right. So it may be that DeSantis owed them a favor from before.

I remember him working against Loomer, and if I recall right, I was just on the wrong side of the road to vote for her. But her opponent was RINO Do-nothing City. Sleepy for everything but tax cuts and corporate handouts.

Trump got Ron over the hump. Let's remember Ron barely beat Secret Gay Gillum with Trump's help, and in the last race it was the Dem Party that Time Forgot against Wokies down to the last minute, and they were seriously divided.

Now we have to figure out a way to get the Tudeh Communist Iranian out of our House.

Meanwhile, the victory speech. And as usual, once Trump wins, the maganamity comes back, and he congradulated Nimratta and DeSantis on second place, and Vivek coming from nowhere to get a substantial vote.

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AmericanKulak says

It's going to be Sarah Huckabee.

That's a good pick. But I prefer he not flitch effective people already in Government, that their seat could be won by a creepy commie in their absence. A bird in hand and all that.

I hope he brings in someone that has been fucked by the Deep State going back to since Trump came in 2016. Someone with a real axe to grind on the Deep State and corrupt DOJ. A Paul Manafort of sorts.

socal2 says

And the moron party

The only morons are the idiots who ignore the will of over half Iowa’s Republican voters. The last I checked Trump is on track to win every single county in Iowa. The people have spoken, the people want Trump.

Tenpoundbass says

I hope he brings in someone that has been fucked by the Deep State going back to since Trump came in 2016. Someone with a real axe to grind on the Deep State and corrupt DOJ. A Paul Manafort of sorts.

General Flynn would be one of my choices. Yeah Manafort would be prime for this as well as Bannon.

How about Anthony Shaffer too ?

BTW, for me personally it was like throwing red meat to a lion when Flynn chanted "lock her up " at the 2016 Republican convention.

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If Trump somehow pulls out of the election race, then a vast majority of the Trump votes will go to DeSantis.

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Apparently DeSantis issued a statement, and none of his Comm/Press people signed it. They know.

He's vowing to fight and lose on, apparently.

Will Asa Rinoton pack it in with 0.2%?

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Tenpoundbass says

I hope he brings in someone that has been fucked by the Deep State going back to since Trump came in 2016. Someone with a real axe to grind on the Deep State and corrupt DOJ. A Paul Manafort of sorts.

General Flynn would be one of my choices. Yeah Manafort would be prime for this as well as Bannon.

How about Anthony Shaffer too ?

BTW, for me personally it was like throwing red meat to a lion when Flynn chanted "lock her up " at the 2016 Republican convention.

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Need a real Sumbitch as Dirty Tricks Manager. Stone, maybe. Manafort would have them flipping. I betcha Manafort has some dirt on some RINOs, too.

The Dems have Mark Elias and Stacy Abrams.

Why the fuck can't we have a bag of tricks and gags to pull?

"Oh muh principled conservatism, hoo hoo we lost yet again. Trannies are a blessing of liberty, hyuk hyuk."

Bannon or somebody else vicious needs to be Chief of Staff to keep the scumbags away from Trump and blast away bureaucratic resistance in the WH and elsewhere, too. No more Rinsed Pubics.

AmericanKulak says

Need a real Sumbitch as Dirty Tricks Manager. Stone, maybe.

Roger Stone is ideal. He's a lot smarter and more effective than James Carville, who has the mainstream media in his pocket going back to 1992 with the "its the economy stupid".

I don't think we should count out DeSantis. A lot were forecasting he would finish in a distant third place. I think he'll do better in New Hampshire and Trump won't fare as well there.

Then there is always the possibility that Trump could get assassinated -- Sure we never saw that coming ! ! ! ! ! !

Then whaddaya do ? ? ? ? --- Gotta back Ron then.

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I don't think we should count out DeSantis. A lot were forecasting he would finish in a distant third place. I think he'll do better in New Hampshire and Trump won't fare as well there.

Both Haley and DeSantis were propped up by dragging Democrats out to vote. Or they wouldn't have gotten over 8 or 10 percent each.
They wont perform as well in closed primary states.

Ramaswamy bows out. He's not running anymore.

Misc says

Then there is always the possibility that Trump could get assassinated

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If Trump somehow pulls out of the election race,

Or if Trump gets incarcerated.

Trump supporters have had the wait and see position, because they are letting Trump bring America back down for a soft landing. If they lose hope in that, then all bets will be off. A Booby prize will not placate them. It will be abundantly clear, we are being transparently government by the very government our Constitution safeguards against. We're holding out that Trump will/can right this dangerous course.

If Trump were languishing away in Prison since they raided Mara Largo, or since his indictments even, I think America would be experiencing a movement, that makes the Canada Trucker protest and the German Protests look like a traffic snarl.
We believe right will prevail, and Ron DeSantis wont replace that drive.

LOL! If they literally allowed all other candidates to add all their votes up for one guy, they STILL would have lost.

He's probably right. The object is to overwhelm the cheating apparatus. No more 'close calls' plumped out for the fraudsters.

Shows that the crazy looney toon left know something about DeSantis?