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15   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 21, 11:28am  

I've lived far too long to know better than to put my trust in any human being.

Having said that, who else is there in the media that is willing to take on issues such as Tucker Carlson has?
17   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 21, 5:44pm  

I agree 100% with Ellison's prediction in the interview that, preceding the election, probably in the summer of 2024, another George Floyd event will take place and that the media will of course blow it all out of proportion.
18   richwicks   2023 Oct 21, 6:57pm  

RayAmerica says

Do we even have a justice system left in this country?


No. Obviously we don't.



How can you be seriously asking that question at THIS point? You know we don't.
19   richwicks   2023 Oct 21, 6:59pm  

Patrick says

richwicks says


he won't respond to me when I harass him about it


Not true. What's your method for finding the embed link from the url?


@Patrick - Currently, I have a Perl script (that can be re-written in another language), that connects to the Rumble URL, and pulls out the embed URL by parsing the page, from there I construct the embedded code.

It requires you to connect to the Rumble page, but it only takes a second (which I admit is eternity on a computer), but it works.
20   Patrick   2023 Oct 21, 7:03pm  

@richwicks Does it have a regular expression which finds the embed link? That's what I really need. Calling perl from node is suboptimal, though possible.
22   richwicks   2023 Oct 21, 8:31pm  

please edit this and post just one video at a time, thanks
23   richwicks   2023 Oct 21, 8:32pm  

Patrick says


richwicks Does it have a regular expression which finds the embed link? That's what I really need. Calling perl from node is suboptimal, though possible.


@Patrick, yes it does!

It doesn't have to be perl. Here, let me see if I can just produce that piece of code. This might take me a few tries (i.e. edits).



sub extract_rumble
{
    my ($url, $getdl) = @_;

    my $embed = "";
    my $dl = "";
    my $unique = "";

    foreach my $l (`wget -O - \"$url\" 2>&1`)
    {
        chomp ($l);
        # embedUrl":"https://rumble.com/embed/vn2oua/
        if ($l =~ /\,\"embedUrl\"\:\"https*:\/\/rumble.com\/embed\/([^\/]+)\/\"/)
        {
            my ($bit) = $1;

            $embed  = "            $embed .= " src=\"https://rumble.com/embed/${bit}/?pub=4\"";
            $embed .= " frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen>";
            
            $dl = "https://rumble.com/embed/${bit}/" if ($getdl);
        }
    }
    
    if ($url =~ /^.*\/([^\/]+)$/)
    {
        $unique = $1;
        $unique =~ s/\.[^\.]+$//;
    }

    return ($embed, $dl, $unique);
}



Something like that - that's a little messed up, I'll keep trying to fix it. I have to call out to "wget" which retrieves the webpage. "wget" is VERY STANDARD on Linux.

What I should do, is explain the process. Basically, I'm downloading the webpage into a buffer, I look for "embedUrl:SOMETHING", the SOMETHING is the embed URL, then I turn that into embedded link.

I'll write it up, annotate the hell out of it, and email it to you. Converting it to another language should be pretty easy, the regular expression (although it looks complicated), isn't.
24   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 21, 9:00pm  

Lest we forget.

Pelosi Thanks George Floyd for 'Sacrificing Your Life for Justice' After Verdict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb-8cOjkFO4
25   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 21, 9:31pm  

RayAmerica says

Although what Chauvin did was "horribly wrong in your book," Chauvin was performing a tactic that was officially taught in training by the Minneapolis Police Academy.

His tactic was justified to begin with for a short period of time, but he took it too far, was not watching the man in his custody and they kept leaning on him about two minutes after he died before realizing something was wrong. That is horrible, brutal and wildly irresponsible.
26   richwicks   2023 Oct 21, 9:47pm  

PeopleUnited says

His tactic was justified to begin with for a short period of time, but he took it too far, was not watching the man in his custody and they kept leaning on him about two minutes after he died before realizing something was wrong. That is horrible, brutal and wildly irresponsible.


Have you seen the bodycam footage? Floyd was resisting arrest and out of control, because he was drugged out of his mind.
27   Robert Sproul   2023 Oct 22, 6:51am  

RayAmerica says


Chauvin was performing a tactic that was officially taught in training by the Minneapolis Police Academy.

It seems to me he performed this perfectly per his department:



RayAmerica says


The biggest mistake that was made that day, IMO, is that after they had Floyd secured in the back of the police vehicle,

They never got him fully into the car. Floyd outweighed Chauvin, and each of the other cops, by around 100 POUNDS. Not everyone knows what a physical altercation with someone that much bigger than you is like. Once Chauvin gained control his training and common sense told him to maintain it. He got on his radio and requested expedited medical response, I think right around when Floyd relaxed into his overdose. Chauvin wasn't being a dick, he was behaving calmly and professionally. His response was near perfect and I wonder what effect seeing and knowing that has had on cops across the country.
28   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 22, 11:50am  

How is this news? It was all known before the trial yet the jury convicted Chauvin. I heard one criminal defence lawyer once saying that even with bombproof, rock-solid defence of somebody innocence there is only 50% chance at best to ge acquitted at jury trial. (This was said in context of discussion of self-defense with deadly weapon).
29   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 22, 1:09pm  

Ceffer says

Not everything was a lie. His name WAS George Floyd, wasn't it?

Even that's not accurate! It's George Perry Floyd Jr. as per the wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd . "George Floyd" without the "Jr." part presumably identifies his father.
30   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 22, 1:24pm  

PeopleUnited says

not watching the man in his custody and they kept leaning on him about two minutes after he died before realizing something was wrong

How much were the police distracted by the hostile crowd? In that kind of situation and with that kind of crowd, the police are fearing for their life.

I agree with previous poster that the police's biggest mistake was allowing Floyd out of the police vehicle. Open the other side of the vehicle and pull Floyd fully in; close both doors. Allowing Floyd out of the vehicle might bring calm to a reasonable arrestee, but nothing is going to calm a drug-induced rage.
32   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 22, 8:05pm  

SunnyvaleCA says

PeopleUnited says


not watching the man in his custody and they kept leaning on him about two minutes after he died before realizing something was wrong

How much were the police distracted by the hostile crowd? In that kind of situation and with that kind of crowd, the police are fearing for their life.

I agree with previous poster that the police's biggest mistake was allowing Floyd out of the police vehicle. Open the other side of the vehicle and pull Floyd fully in; close both doors. Allowing Floyd out of the vehicle might bring calm to a reasonable arrestee, but nothing is going to calm a drug-induced rage.


If the situation was unsafe the officers should have left the scene.
33   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 22, 8:09pm  

Patrick says





Experts have testified under oath that he did die while under Chauvins knee. That is why he is,was on trial. The circumstances were unfair, but Chauvin was more worried about the crowd than the fact his prisoner stopped breathing. That is his mistake. He should not have allowed the crowd to distract him.
34   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 23, 1:02am  

PeopleUnited says

SunnyvaleCA says


PeopleUnited says



not watching the man in his custody and they kept leaning on him about two minutes after he died before realizing something was wrong

How much were the police distracted by the hostile crowd? In that kind of situation and with that kind of crowd, the police are fearing for their life.

I agree with previous poster that the police's biggest mistake was allowing Floyd out of the police vehicle. Open the other side of the vehicle and pull Floyd fully in; close both doors. Allowing Floyd out of the vehicle might bring calm to a reasonable arrestee, but nothing is going to calm a drug-induced rage.



If the situation was unsafe the officers should have left the scene.

Uvalde police, yes. Other police take their jobs seriously.
35   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 4:41am  

Dismissing the clear fact that George died under Derek and the other officers knees. Nice.

This is not the first time officers knelt on a drug user until they died. https://www.wftv.com/news/deep-viral/youre-gonna-kill-me-body-cameras-show-mans-death-at-hands-of-dallas-cops/972034712/

I hope you never get treated like that.
36   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 23, 7:24am  

Free Derek Chauvin NOW… (along with the rest of the officers that were prosecuted and convicted of crimes they didn't commit).

This won’t come as a shock to you, but nearly everything you were told about the George Floyd case and the conviction of police officer Derek Chauvin was a lie. Newly released court documents now confirm that George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose, not from asphyxiation.

In other words, George Floyd was not murdered.

More here: https://revolver.news/2023/10/free-derek-chauvin-now/
37   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 23, 12:45pm  

PeopleUnited says

I hope you never get treated like that.


Why would any reasonable person decide to fight it out with a bunch of popos on the street even if you believe the arrest is not legal? You still gonna get arrested and dragged to jail simply because the numbers are against you. Why do it hard way if the outcome is ultimately the same? Fight it in court, duh.
38   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 23, 12:58pm  

RayAmerica says

Free Derek Chauvin NOW… (along with the rest of the officers that were prosecuted and convicted of crimes they didn't commit).


This is not how it works, unfortunately. But he's taking it all the way to SCOTUS.
39   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 1:19pm  

Eric Holder says

PeopleUnited says


I hope you never get treated like that.


Why would any reasonable person decide to fight it out with a bunch of popos on the street even if you believe the arrest is not legal? You still gonna get arrested and dragged to jail simply because the numbers are against you. Why do it hard way if the outcome is ultimately the same? Fight it in court, duh.


Have you ever considered that he was a drug addict and therefore by definition unreasonable and not in good health?
40   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 1:30pm  

RayAmerica says

In other words, George Floyd was not murdered.


George died under the knees of three officers and they stayed on top of him for two minutes after he died. He said he could not breath. The witnesses said that George was in distress. Whether he was murdered or died of an overdose, we know for certain that the police did nothing to prevent his death. If anything their actions guaranteed the end result.

Everyone made mistakes that day. George passed a fake bill and was on illicit drugs. Then he refused to stay in the car when arrested. Prior to that, the business owner never should have called the police to begin with. They accepted a fake bill, it was their mistake to accept it in the first place.

The police should have just put the cuffs on him and let him lie or stand until the ambulance comes. Even if he runs he is not going to get far.

The crowd should have shut up and let the police do their job. They distracted the cops so much they sat on a dead man for over 2 minutes.

The ambulance was late. Why did that take so long, maybe they wanted a false flag.
41   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 23, 1:32pm  

PeopleUnited says


Have you ever considered that he was a drug addict and therefore by definition unreasonable and not in good health?


That's exactly the point. To what lengths the society is obliged to preserve somebody's life if he himself is not keen on preserving it and is doing everyting to end it prematurely and is acting in an anti-social manner? How would a cop know the level of drugs in the suspect's system and the pre-existing conditions he has? Is being in poor physical and mental health a permission to roam free and do as you want, laws be damned? (The latter seems to be the case in SF and Oakland and the results are not pretty for EVERYBODY).
42   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 4:21pm  

Eric Holder says

the results are not pretty for EVERYBODY).

The results of that botched arrest destroyed parts of this city and even other parts of the country and the world. That arrest was botched, and as it turns out, letting him go with a warning would have saved lives, maybe even his.
43   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 23, 4:40pm  

PeopleUnited says


Eric Holder says


the results are not pretty for EVERYBODY).

The results of that botched arrest destroyed parts of this city and even other parts of the country and the world. That arrest was botched, and as it turns out, letting him go with a warning would have saved lives, maybe even his.



Not the results of the arrest, but the results of non-enforcement of existing anti-riot laws.

PS. How would YOU handle the arrest of big, rowdy, drugged out but ultimately fragile and mentally deficient guy who absolutely dead seat of not going back inside? Tazer? Tranquilizer darts? That'd kill him for sure. Just let anybody who refuses to be arrested go? Isn't it what "progressive" DAs tried in SF, Oakland and such?
44   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 23, 5:34pm  

PeopleUnited says

The results of that botched arrest destroyed parts of this city and even other parts of the country and the world. That arrest was botched, and as it turns out, letting him go with a warning would have saved lives, maybe even his.

Never forget how the media played the incident, over and over and over again, just as they did the edited Rodney King video. They stoked the flames that resulted in dozens of innocent people being killed, many more injured, hundreds of businesses ruined, and the racial divide made wider than it ever was before.
45   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 8:53pm  

Eric Holder says

PeopleUnited says



Eric Holder says



the results are not pretty for EVERYBODY).

The results of that botched arrest destroyed parts of this city and even other parts of the country and the world. That arrest was botched, and as it turns out, letting him go with a warning would have saved lives, maybe even his.




Not the results of the arrest, but the results of non-enforcement of existing anti-riot laws.

PS. How would YOU handle the arrest of big, rowdy, drugged out but ultimately fragile and mentally deficient guy who absolutely dead seat of not going back inside? Tazer? Tranquilizer darts? That'd kill him for sure. Just let anybody who refuses to be arrested go? Isn't it what "progressive" DAs tried in SF, Oakland and such?

No, we don’t need to let him go. Slap some cuffs on him, which they did. And if he refuses to lie down or sit and wait for the ambulance then track him. Put an rfid on him like a apple airtag. But don’t have three officers kneel on his corpse for two minutes after he stops breathing, on cell phone cameras! It’s not rocket science. They screwed up a rather simple task, in a big way.
46   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 8:57pm  

RayAmerica says


PeopleUnited says


The results of that botched arrest destroyed parts of this city and even other parts of the country and the world. That arrest was botched, and as it turns out, letting him go with a warning would have saved lives, maybe even his.

Never forget how the media played the incident, over and over and over again, just as they did the edited Rodney King video. They stoked the flames that resulted in dozens of innocent people being killed, many more injured, hundreds of businesses ruined, and the racial divide made wider than it ever was before.


Yes the media made more of it than it needed to be. But the officers botched this one big time. When you kneel on a guy until two minutes after he’s dead, you have failed bigly. It’s amazing that people can see kneeling on a sick, drugged but at that point defenseless man, long enough to see him say I can’t breath, call to his mother that he is dying and then die, only to have them kneel on him for another two minutes after he met his maker, as ok.
47   richwicks   2023 Oct 23, 9:06pm  

PeopleUnited says

When you kneel on a guy until two minutes after he’s dead, you have failed bigly. It’s amazing that people can see kneeling on a sick, drugged but at that point defenseless man, long enough to see him say I can’t breath, call to his mother that he is dying and then die


You haven't watched the bodycam footage, HAVE YOU?

Been around forever, and you've never bothered to check.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEGGLu_fNU

Stop having opinions before you actually have all the information you can obtain.
48   komputodo   2023 Oct 23, 9:17pm  

PeopleUnited says

It’s amazing that people can see kneeling on a sick, drugged but at that point defenseless man, long enough to see him say I can’t breath, call to his mother that he is dying and then die, only to have them kneel on him for another two minutes after he met his maker, as ok.

yeah, poor guy
49   komputodo   2023 Oct 23, 9:22pm  

PeopleUnited says

I hope you never get treated like that.

rule no. 1 don't fight with police
rule no. 2 don't forget rule no. 1
50   PeopleUnited   2023 Oct 23, 9:25pm  

Actually rule number one would be don’t do drugs. But if you do, I guess people think it’s ok to kneel on you until your corpse has been limp for two minutes.
51   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 23, 9:26pm  

Pfff, track him? He'll rid of that tracking device and cuffs in 10 minutes after he's out of sight and reconnected with his ghetto buddies.

This leftoid touchy-feely "why didn't you shoot him in the leg with a paintball marker" shit doesn't work IRL.
52   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 24, 5:34am  

PeopleUnited says

It’s amazing that people can see kneeling on a sick, drugged but at that point defenseless man, long enough to see him say I can’t breath, call to his mother that he is dying and then die, only to have them kneel on him for another two minutes after he met his maker, as ok.

Except, the kneeling didn't kill him. Read the official autopsy report that Patrick posted.
53   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 24, 5:42am  

PeopleUnited,

While you defend the sainted memory of George Floyd against these ravenous wolves in here, just remember, you have a friend that agrees with you:

Pelosi Thanks George Floyd for 'Sacrificing Your Life for Justice' After Verdict

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nancy+pelosi+thanks+george+floyd&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dlb-8cOjkFO4
54   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 24, 6:23am  

8 officers involved in Jayland Walker's shooting death are back on active duty, officials say

The shooting death of Walker, a black man, sparked protests and criminal prosecution of the officers, who were ultimately not indicted by a grand jury in the incident

Walker shot at police prior to fleeing his car. During the chase, officers determined that he was again going to shoot because he had reached into his waistband. Walker was killed, being shot 46 times by a number of police officers on the scene.

"By all accounts, Jayland Walker was a good person, a good man."

Surprise, surprise. The family has filed a $45 million lawsuit against the City of Akron, the Police Department and the Police Chief.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/8-officers-involved-in-jayland-walkers-shooting-death-are-back-on-active-duty-officials-say/4795235/

Moral of the story; shooting at armed police officers is never a good choice. You really could end up dead.

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