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Evidence we are going to get walloped in 2024 if we don't get smart


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2023 Sep 20, 8:19am   7,847 views  100 comments

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Trump won this district in 2016 and 2020 and Sununu won this district by 22 points! A Democrat just won a special election for a house seat by 12 points.

The Republican who lost is a pastor and said "the Prophets told him that Trump won 2020". I suppose they will blame this on voter fraud too? Should be easy to ferret out in a smaller election.

https://twitter.com/RedaMor/status/1704347649598435721

It is not fair, but Trump is permanently branded a loser and is mortally wounded by all the lawfare and fake scandals. His negatives are sky high and we have numerous elections since the midterms showing that there are too many American sheep who will vote against their own interests to vote against Orange Man Bad.

We can be sober and accept political reality and try to change course. But because are are the stupid party who let the Democrats and the Media to radicalize us and play us like a drum to support Trump, we are going to walk over this cliff and likely lose a very winnable election no matter how much data is presented to us.

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62   socal2   2023 Sep 25, 2:23pm  

AmericanKulak says

Sucessive Republican Presidents and Houses have done jack shit on the border,


Sure they could do alot more, but I really doubt that a JEB! would be telling illegals to "surge" to the Border like Biden did here. I doubt a RHINO President would let the DOJ sue border states for trying to stem the tide of illegals as Biden's DOJ has been doing the past 3 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwLYMPLYbo

The border situation has never been worse. I could use a little Mitt Romney or JEB! border control right about now.

Even our worst RHINO is galaxy level better than the bonkers Donkey party on immigration. And we are going to get 4 more years of unrestrained bonkers Liberalism because Trump will likely lose to any Democrat not named Biden or Hillary.


63   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 25, 2:34pm  

socal2 says

Sure they could do alot more, but I really doubt that a JEB! would be telling illegals to "surge" to the Border like Biden did here. I doubt a RHINO President would let the DOJ sue border states for trying to stem the tide of illegals as Biden's DOJ has been doing the past 3 years.

Dubya paints pictures of Mexicans, Jeb! has always been an open borders advocate

Texas Republicans, run by Bushites, themselves hem and haw on the border and don't treat it as a crisis.

We just saw GOP Establishment priorities in Texas when Bushites tried to impeach Paxton on no evidence rather than tackle real problems like the Border and LGBTQ+ fascism.

I don't care about Biden, I care about bothering to elect the RIGHT opposition, not the Fake Opposition.
64   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 25, 2:36pm  

Remember 2016? Here's Jeb's Open Border:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVyq8eO_rC0

"Donald Trump's immigration plan is not conservative and doesn't reflect America's Values" - !!!Jeb!!!

And this was his stance in a primary, when he was trying to appeal to the base, and still he expressed concerns about civil liberties, distaste for a wall, and lots of platitudes about the US being the Nation of Immigrants.
65   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 25, 2:39pm  

Jeb Bush demands Trump ends "Heartless" Border Policy, 2018
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/06/18/jeb-bush-demands-trump-end-heartless-child-border-policy/

And always "Dreamers... and a path to citizenship"
https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/1008730704497258496

In reality, he means, wide open border and constant amnesties and and look aways to maximize cheap labor for his donor class.

So no, Jeb is the very model of the milquetoast fauxservative Corporate Socialist.
66   socal2   2023 Sep 25, 2:52pm  

AmericanKulak says

We just saw GOP Establishment priorities in Texas when Bushites tried to impeach Paxton on no evidence rather than tackle real problems like the Border and LGBTQ+ fascism.


Good thing the Bushes aren't running for office then.

Trump talked a big game on immigration, but was outmaneuvered his entire presidency and all of the good he did was reversed overnight by Biden's Executive Orders.

We all know that Trump will do fuck all about LGBTQ+ fascism and is in fact one of the biggest wet blanket Republican RHINOs when it comes to pissing off his LGBTQ friends and donors like Bruce Jenner, Kardashians, Disney and Anheuser Busch. Trump was one of the biggest Republicans to normalize trannies.

If only we had a Republican that wasn't bogged down with scandals and hypocrisy, said the right things and had a proven track record of getting things done they said they were going to do....

But we are to believe that DeSantis' entire life and success in politics was a Big Lie and it is all one big massive conspiracy to usher in more Bushes and Ryans.......
67   clambo   2023 Sep 25, 3:14pm  

Jeb Bush was among the worst idiots who was in love with Mexico and wanted more illegals in the USA.
He married a fireplug short Mexican chick; no Mexican I know who had two nickels to rub together would give her the time of day, and Jeb married her.

Bush was so stupid he said that more illegals caused our economy to grow, thereby benefitting us all.

Bush thinks more workers=we're all richer! I wonder how that is working in Bangladesh?

I'm living with a Mexican girl in Baja Sur, and have Mexican friends, etc. but I'm not a dimwit; I know that more foreign workers in the USA is bad for Americans.

The only way I would "put a ring on it" is to lower my taxes; married filing jointly and she has no income=50% lower tax bill.
68   socal2   2023 Sep 25, 3:42pm  

And here is Trump backing the douchiest Rhino and Neocon Lindsey Graham in South Carolina today amongst all the boos!

https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1706393386087813403

Can't get more establishment than Miss Lindsey.

But because Trump has no guiding Conservative ideology, fewer allies and is merely transactional about cutting deals with Democrats, Despots and LGBTQ mafia trying to get people to like him - we end up with this bit of cognitive dissonance of MAGA defending morons like Graham who was peddling Federal Abortion bans that helped sink the 2022 midterms for Republicans.
69   HeadSet   2023 Sep 25, 5:17pm  

socal2 says

And here is Trump backing the douchiest Rhino and Neocon Lindsey Graham in South Carolina today amongst all the boos!

Why would Trump do that? Graham stabbed Trump in the back by recusing himself on that sham Mueller investigation. Graham is a proven traitor who will join the other side in a close vote. And like you said, Graham deliberately savaged Republican efforts in the 2022 midterms by pushing a total abortion ban.
70   socal2   2023 Sep 25, 5:45pm  

HeadSet says


Why would Trump do that?


Trump has a soft spot for his LGBTQ supporters like Lindsey?

Can't really take the New York Liberal out of MAGA. He's got Roger Stone swinger/clingers as well. Roy Cohn back in the day too!
71   richwicks   2023 Sep 25, 7:40pm  

socal2 says

We are the stupid party and the Democrats are playing us like a fiddle.


Both parties are stupid.

All Trump did was expose how corrupt the government is. People don't do shit about it, you deserve what you get. We all do.
73   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 25, 7:52pm  

socal2 says

Trump has a soft spot for his LGBTQ supporters like Lindsey?

Can't really take the New York Liberal out of MAGA. He's got Roger Stone swinger/clingers as well. Roy Cohn back in the day too!

A reminder that Roy Cohn helped get scores of Old Yankee Blueblood Commies out the State and "War" Department (now DoD), for which he was hated by the Boston Brahmins and the Brookyln Bolsheviks

Trump banned trannies in the military and especially their expensive bottom surgeries. Biden, who was cheated into office with help from the Maricopa GOP and Gov Kemp of Georgia, restored them
74   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 25, 7:53pm  

socal2 says


Good thing the Bushes aren't running for office then.

Trump talked a big game on immigration, but was outmaneuvered his entire presidency and all of the good he did was reversed overnight by Biden's Executive Orders.

No, the Bushies are backing everybody but Trump. They will then owe the Bushies policy support for all the millions and Establishment support.

You're memory of 2019-2020 is incorrect. Ryan steadfastly refused to assist Trump at all on immigration, because the Koches and Bushites and most big GOP donors DONT WANT immigration control.

Ryan spent two entire years slow walking almost every part of Trump's agenda, on purpose.
75   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 25, 7:55pm  

clambo says

He married a fireplug short Mexican chick; no Mexican I know who had two nickels to rub together would give her the time of day, and Jeb married her.

One of the ugliest women I've ever seen. Jeb should have at least a 6 or 7 based on wealth alone.

His kids are also complete messes.
76   AD   2023 Sep 25, 10:05pm  

AmericanKulak says

His kids are also complete messes.


His two sons are doing well, and his only daughter did have problems with drug addiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush#Personal_life

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77   AD   2023 Sep 25, 10:06pm  

AmericanKulak says

Ryan steadfastly refused to assist Trump at all on immigration


Now immigration is that bad for USA Today to report it is putting major strains all over the USA:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/09/25/migrant-surge-us-cities/70921430007/

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78   Ceffer   2023 Sep 25, 10:16pm  

AmericanKulak says

One of the ugliest women I've ever seen. Jeb should have at least a 6 or 7 based on wealth alone.

Unless he's gay and she's a beard who will never do any better.
79   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 26, 12:48am  

ad says

His two sons are doing well, and his only daughter did have problems with drug addiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush#Personal_life

I thought I recalled another son being a druggie.

In any case, if anybody isn't up to snuff, Jeb's son G. Prescott Bush lost the TX AG race to Paxton, which is why the latter was impeached and G. Prescott reactivated his law license the very same day the "whistleblowers without evidence" approached officials. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.
80   socal2   2023 Sep 26, 8:41am  

Here is the plan to replace Biden with one of Trump's Democrat buddies Gavin Newsom.

There is no way Biden is running next year with his age and corruption problems.

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https://twitter.com/JamesBradleyCA/status/1706278086042366295

Political author Greg Rubini has reported inside info that:

Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein.

Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP.

THEN they will REMOVE Joe Biden from office.

QUOTE: “either he will ‘die of Covid’ or ‘he fell from his bicycle’ or whatever. One way or another, he will be forced to resign.”

Then, Newsom will run against Trump!

I HAVE NO TROUBLE BELIEVING ANY OF THIS.

Because since 2020 it’s become obvious that politics has become a 3-d chess game, with human pieces FROM BOTH PARTIES being moved into their places.

So when Newsom says he won’t run for president - this is what he means.

The presidency will be given to him.

Folks, AMERICA is at DEFCON ONE!

Giving Newsom national power is an existential crisis!

WE MUST TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2024, OR AMERICA IS LOST TO US.

I’m in the fight.

I pray that you will join me there.

God bless America
81   HeadSet   2023 Sep 26, 8:57am  

socal2 says

Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein.

Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP.

THEN they will REMOVE Joe Biden from office.

Biden may just resign after appointing Newsome as VP, then Newsom pardons Biden and Hunter for all crimes. May even pardon Trump on all those made up crimes, as long as Trump agrees not to run.
82   socal2   2023 Sep 26, 9:15am  

HeadSet says

Biden may just resign after appointing Newsome as VP, then Newsom pardons Biden and Hunter for all crimes. May even pardon Trump on all those made up crimes, as long as Trump agrees not to run.


Nothing would surprise me.

We have a few months to get our heads screwed on straight and realize that we are not running against Biden and pick the most Conservative candidate that has the best chance of winning against a generic Democrat who is not addled by age and scandal like Biden......and Trump.
83   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Sep 26, 10:21am  

socal2 says

Trump talked a big game on immigration, but was outmaneuvered his entire presidency and all of the good he did was reversed overnight by Biden's Executive Orders.

Trump is a PR person and figurehead. The problem is that he needed the support of the rest of the federal government in order to implement the ideas he ran on. He was undermined at every turn. His cabinet — some of which were very good — were equally harassed and undermined by the deep state and fake news.

Desantis, who is much more hands-on, will face the very same problems. Sure, he might not get down in the mud with them all, but he will still be harassed at every turn. The deep state and fake news have set up the situation where good advisors and cabinet heads will think twice about becoming the next Michael Flynn. I'm still hoping Desantis will be the next president, but even then, he will only maybe slow the country's collapse, not prevent it.
84   socal2   2023 Sep 26, 11:28am  

SunnyvaleCA says

Desantis, who is much more hands-on, will face the very same problems. Sure, he might not get down in the mud with them all, but he will still be harassed at every turn. The deep state and fake news have set up the situation where good advisors and cabinet heads will think twice about becoming the next Michael Flynn. I'm still hoping Desantis will be the next president, but even then, he will only maybe slow the country's collapse, not prevent it.


Yep - and DeSantis won't hand the deep state with a shit ton of ammunition as Trump did with his colorful past and foolish attempts to retain documents.

DeSantis also has a loyal (and competent) crew that knows how to work government and get things done. Trump has a series of allies he has thrown under the bus or tied up with indictments, so he has a bunch of 2nd tier grifters clinging onto his campaign.

I don't buy that we can only slow our collapse. We can reverse it with the right leadership. DeSantis has totally won the culture war against Disney and is busy remaking education in Florida which will be a model across other Red States. Other Red State governors like Abbot in Texas has thrown the immigration debate on its head by brilliantly bussing them up to Liberal Northern cities.

Politics is downstream of Culture and Trump is the worst Republican imaginable to be leading the fight against the mental defectives in the Democrat party on important cultural issues.
85   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Sep 26, 12:04pm  

socal2 says

DeSantis also has a loyal (and competent) crew that knows how to work government and get things done. Trump has a series of allies he has thrown under the bus or tied up with indictments, so he has a bunch of 2nd tier grifters clinging onto his campaign.

I hope you are right, but I'd caution that Flynn was hardly ammunition for the deep state and that Trump's first several years in office were tied up with completely the fictitious Russian Collusion Delusion™. Sadly, it doesn't look like Desantis will even get the nomination this time.
86   socal2   2023 Sep 26, 1:40pm  

SunnyvaleCA says

hope you are right, but I'd caution that Flynn was hardly ammunition for the deep state and that Trump's first several years in office were tied up with completely the fictitious Russian Collusion Delusion™. Sadly, it doesn't look like Desantis will even get the nomination this time.


Trump certainly got railroaded. Both he and Flynn panicked early on and that set the stage for the rest of the lawfare. Had Trump stuck by Flynn and had more competent legal allies and advisors to help him avoid walking into Democrat traps, I think Trump could have nipped it in the bud.

Lots of people like that Trump is an "outsider" - but that also comes with the baggage of not being able to play the game in DC, having no allies and getting hamstrung like Trump was for 4 years. Still amazed at some of the good stuff Trump accomplished, but Trump would be even more hamstrung and wounded this next time around.

It is still very early in the primaries. Rudy Giuliani was the clear front runner at this time for the 2016 cycle. Trump isn't getting any younger and continues to make retarded Leftist arguments against DeSantis that MAGA incoherently defends. Trump is even meeting with lazy UAW hacks tomorrow because he has make up for all the Conservatives and Independents he lost by trying to win over ghetto culture, LGBTQ+ and unions. Basically turning the Republican party into Bill Clinton Democrats. No thanks!

Looking forward to the DeSantis and Newsom debate in November.
87   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 27, 11:55am  

Trump is getting cheered by UAW workers right now.


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88   socal2   2023 Sep 27, 12:17pm  

AmericanKulak says

Trump is getting cheered by UAW workers right now.


Great! Is Trump promising to use our tax dollars to bail out this union like Obama and Biden did? Trump (just like Biden and AOC) continues to tack Left desperately trying to win over corrupt and entitled UAW workers, gang bangers and the LGBTQ mafia to make up for all the Conservatives and Independents he lost.

Fuck the UAW with their preposterous demands for a 40% pay increase, guaranteed pensions and a 4 day work week. The Big 3 are already dying under the burdens of Union pensions and Tesla is going to eat their lunch.

Just waiting for Trump to start campaigning with Planned Parenthood and La Raza.

So much MAGA! Trump will show those Rhino Globohomos how to really do it.
89   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 28, 1:58am  

HeadSet says

Biden may just resign after appointing Newsome as VP, then Newsom pardons Biden and Hunter for all crimes. May even pardon Trump on all those made up crimes, as long as Trump agrees not to run.


Yeltsin & Putin 2.0
90   Misc   2023 Sep 28, 2:43am  

HeadSet says

socal2 says


Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein.

Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP.

THEN they will REMOVE Joe Biden from office.

Biden may just resign after appointing Newsome as VP, then Newsom pardons Biden and Hunter for all crimes. May even pardon Trump on all those made up crimes, as long as Trump agrees not to run.


Biden cannot just appoint Newsome as VP. He would have to be confirmed by a majority vote in Both Houses of Congress. - Good Luck with that ! ! !
91   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 28, 8:53pm  

Misc says


would have to be confirmed by a majority vote in Both Houses of Congress. - Good Luck with that ! ! !


You're correct. I thought it was only the Senate that needs to confirm. And for most of our nation's history that was the case. The 25th Amendment changed it to both houses.

And with Kamala out, McCarthy has a personal incentive to keeping the Veep position open: he would become POTUS if Biden dies.

And the odds of that happening over the next 15 months are better than you get at the craps table at a casino, I believe.

Still, the RINOs in the House will join with the Democrats to fuck us. Only thing that would prevent that is the Speaker refusing to put the matter to the floor for a vote. Which is what he is doing now to prevent that from happening with the budget battle.

Fucking RINOs.
92   richwicks   2023 Sep 28, 9:01pm  

iwog2 says

And with Kamala out, McCarthy has a personal incentive to keeping the Veep position open: he would become POTUS if Biden dies.


Kamala isn't going to be removed. They just need some sort of puppet, doesn't matter WHO it is, as long as they just take orders. Kamala will do is Biden keels over and drops dead.

Shit, I wouldn't even be surprised if they replaced Biden with a deep fake. He's just a crap actor anyhow.
95   AmericanKulak   2023 Sep 28, 9:54pm  

socal2 says

Great! Is Trump promising to use our tax dollars to bail out this union like Obama and Biden did?

Well, he's not outsourcing tons of jobs to China like Bush I and II did, like Hastert, Bonehead, and Ryan never did anything to stop.

How the hell is our border wide open even though 3/4 of the past 3 decades, Republicans have run the house, with 12 of those years under an R POTUS?
96   richwicks   2023 Sep 28, 10:24pm  

AmericanKulak says

How the hell is our border wide open even though 3/4 of the past 3 decades, Republicans have run the house, with 12 of those years under an R POTUS?


When is the public going to realize that these assholes do nothing for the nation?

They have betrayed the people of this country time and time again. Shit, if congress just blew up one day, I'd first go to the bank, take out $2000, go to the nearest bar, and start buying rounds. Fuck them. They won't do fuck for this nation.
97   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Sep 30, 11:49am  

AmericanKulak says

How the hell is our border wide open even though 3/4 of the past 3 decades, Republicans have run the house, with 12 of those years under an R POTUS?

Border control was actually improving under Trump. The problem is that his efforts were stymied at every turn by Democrats, RINOs, and the vast unelected bureaucrats and government workers tasked with implementing his policies. Now, with Biden, all that effort has been overturned and efforts are redoubled at flooding the country.
98   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Oct 2, 5:28pm  

Well, let's sum up the situation as things currently stand as of this date today, shall we?

1) Dems have become so Stalinist, they have denied a Kennedy the right to participate in a Presidential primary. As a result, it looks like Bobby Jr is about to announce an indy run.

2) Cornel West is no electoral push over, either. He can cause more damage to the Dems than Ralph Nader did in 2000.

3) Meanwhile, the GOP base is pretty much locked behind Trump. "Not true!", you say? "Moderates..." get this into your head: they are no longer part of the GOP base. And they haven't been in quite a few election cycles.

4) No Labels DEFINITELY must be smelling the bleeding chum in the water right now. So they probably will go ahead. Only all that bullshit they said earlier about "...we won't run if Trump will win from that". Because the playing field has changed as per 1 - 3. The Dems are getting Whig'ed. No Labels will jump in to not be left behind in 2028.

Of course, things could change between now and Stolen Election Day 2024. Biden could back out. But the longer he waits, the less time the Dems have to find and coalesce behind a new and semi-viable candidate.

But for now, as of this date, I say: Don't worry! Be happy!
99   AmericanKulak   2023 Oct 2, 11:04pm  

One thing is clear, a lot of power has to devolve to the states or lower.

A big thing is that Senators must be chosen by the State Legislature so they represent the States, NOT the people in them.
100   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 3, 1:27am  

iwog2 says

Well, let's sum up the situation as things currently stand as of this date today, shall we?

(1) Mail-in ballots
(2) Vote harvesting
(3) Whole system designed to make basic voting laws unenforceable and unauditable

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