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Turnout is the real story here


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2016 Nov 9, 6:17am   14,114 views  66 comments

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Trump got 1.1 million fewer votes than McCain,

2 Million fewer votes than Romney.

Clinton got 7 Million fewer votes than Obama 2012.

#Politics

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41   junkmail   2016 Nov 9, 8:13am  

Rashomon says

junkmail says

Also, Logan.
Notice how that guys doesn't have his arm around you in that picture?
Ever wonder why?

Not sure the purpose of all these digs. He made a perfectly reasonable point. That is a very clear drop in voter participation, and the last election wasn't exactly a humdinger driving people to the voting booths.

I dig him because he's a self promotion schill and has hide as thick as an elephant. Try it, it's fun.
My attack on him is that of all the takeaways of the last 24 hours only Logan would come up with...
"The real story here is the low turnout..."
That might be worth talking about in week or 2, but no... this is his first salvo.

Logan likes this point because it has big numbers and graphs, and, and did I say numbers already?

Then he can sit here and pontificate on why the election went the way it did...

THE DAY AFTER IT HAPPENED

42   _   2016 Nov 9, 8:14am  

junkmail says

"The real story here is the low turnout..."

Logan Mohtashami says

Clinton got 7 Million fewer votes than Obama 2012.

43   _   2016 Nov 9, 8:16am  

junkmail says

hide as thick as an elephant.

I assure you my ass isn't that big... In December you guys get to see me live...

Are you coming for Pizza :-)

44   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 8:16am  

The Democrats' lost because they rigged the vote against Bernie and have superdelegates that have as much or more voting power as entire counties full of Democrat Voters. Hillary was up delegates in states that hadn't even voted yet. At least make the undemocratic superdelegates cast the votes at the same time as everybody else.

I can't possibly imagine that surpressing the Progressive Vote had anything to do with tonight.

"Take this Warmongering Wall Street Cow and Like It!"

45   junkmail   2016 Nov 9, 8:19am  

Logan, it doesn't matter what the turnout was... really it doesn't.
I know you're puzzled about how this happened, but that's because you're shallow and think numbers are your best friend.

It's a shame really.

46   _   2016 Nov 9, 8:21am  

junkmail says

Logan, it doesn't matter what the turnout was... really it doesn't.

6-7 million gap in voting in 4 years means the Dems didn't get out to vote.

This is how the Republicans win congressional seats

McCain got more votes than Trump ....

Hard left Dems never really loved Clinton because the progressives don't think she is a true Democrat

47   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 9, 8:23am  

Here we go with this fuckin' Logan-diarrhea-of-the-mouth, run-on-talk-to-himself-thread bullshit again...

...sigh.

48   junkmail   2016 Nov 9, 8:23am  

Logan you're an answer to a question no one asked.

49   _   2016 Nov 9, 8:24am  

freespeechforever says

Here we go with this fuckin' Logan-diarrhea-of-the-mouth, run-on-talk-to-himself-thread bullshit again...

...sigh.

junkmail says

Logan you're an answer to a question no one asked.

Then why are you talking to me ... :-)

50   junkmail   2016 Nov 9, 8:30am  

Because I like kicking you in the crotch hoping to nail even one tiny morsel of a testicle.

51   _   2016 Nov 9, 8:31am  

junkmail says

Because I like kicking you in the crotch hoping to nail even one tiny morsel of a testicle.

fair enough.

Have a wonderful day :-)

52   indigenous   2016 Nov 9, 9:23am  

Pat I'm seeing the delete button again at post #47. The delete button seems to show up on Lip's posts.

53   indigenous   2016 Nov 9, 9:24am  

This election was NOT about voter turnout.

This election was about the government overreach and 16 years of economic decline ensuing from the overreach.

The voters are pissed.

Hat Tip to TPB

54   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 9:27am  

The #Flakopolypse is the Big Story Here.

My god the #MSM sucks. And it's apparent to everybody. Forgotten is the YUGE Surprise Victory in the face of all Pundits and Elite Wisdom.

55   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 9, 9:46am  

Logan Mohtashami says

3rd party candidates at before

Stein got 1.2 Million

Gary got roughly 4 million

2012: 1.7%

2008: 1.4%

2004: 1%

2000: 3.7%

1996: 10.1%

1992: 19.6%

The Liberals started meddling and the media was the DNC attack Dog to keep third party candidates marginalized starting in the 2000 election. It's how Democrats lost me as Democrat leaning Independent, to the stark raving mad Conservative Patriot.
Liberals didn't care who they distanced themselves from. They didn't exhibit any actions to make you want to embrace their policies nor did they alter them accordingly to retrofit their previous demographic. They were morphing into what ever and if you disagreed with that, you were scum. That's hardly a way to win hearts, souls and minds. You can't keep inventing votes out of thin Air. When even the NSA and the FBI were on top of the network traffic to and from the voting centers, to make sure there was no vote flipping. It's a different world today, somethings, many things are going to change. Every American will benefit, but many Americans are going to go though a transitioning stage as they have to readjust to being self sufficient and can create industry for them selves, or work for one of the millions of self starters that will be booming this economy.

56   _   2016 Nov 9, 12:44pm  

Tim Aurora says

Good analysis. Do not listen to the haters

Wisconsin numbers ... which no one thought could go red, even Trump.

Bush 2004 - 1,478,120;
Romney 2012 - 1,410,966;
Trump 2016 - 1,407,401

Dems didn't come out ... Clinton not progressive enough

57   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 9, 12:55pm  

Dems came out they went Gary Johnson.

How come when I was one of 43,000 people that voted for Nader in 2000, it was all my fault for voting for him.
The MSM either hasn't come to terms yet with the reality that they were cheated by the third party. Or they are dropping the act. If those other candidates didn't run those voters would have stayed home.

58   Rew   2016 Nov 9, 12:59pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

Dems didn't come out ... Clinton not progressive enough

The DNC may see this now, and may have to embrace an even lefter progressive stance.

My god. How polarized are we going to get?

59   _   2016 Nov 9, 1:02pm  

Rew says

lefter progressive stance.

2020 ... It has to be Warren.. Kamala Harris maybe? Juan Castro?

Right now 2018 election becomes big now, Republicans could add more seats

I am actually writing a Trump piece now, with all 3 branches expect a friendly democratic take on infrastructure

60   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 9, 1:06pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

Dems didn't come out ... Clinton not progressive enough

Her dogwhistling over the years, first on Blacks as Criminals and Superpredators, then on Whites as Deplorables, showed her true character as a dishonest divider who will say anything. Her chickens came home to roost.

61   AllTruth   2016 Nov 9, 1:48pm  

Logan had a penchant for stating the total fucking obvious.

(It's raining outside)

Logan: "You might get wet if you go outside."

62   _   2016 Nov 9, 1:53pm  

Irony of political ideological economic thinking is that my conservative friends won't be bearish on the economy and my liberal friends will take their piece

Trolls will always be trolls ...

switching spots for the next 4 years from a Anti America to a Pro American and vice versa

63   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 9, 2:11pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

Well, at least I am not hiding behind a fake name.

Your ego won't allow it?
Look at me! Look at me!

64   _   2016 Nov 9, 2:14pm  

HEY YOU says

Your ego won't allow it?

Nothing to do with ego.

Men don't hide behind fake names.. only trolls do... I mean who does that... but Trolls

Could you imagine if all of you had to put your real names and photos with your post.

No.. you wouldn't... you couldn't ....

Russian trolls are easy to spot, they can't speak English properly.

All of you.. You're Americans...and this is ugly.. it's pathetic... you would never teach this to your children

65   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 9, 2:15pm  

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66   _   2016 Nov 9, 4:40pm  

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