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Bizarre sub-country of Rojava is eco-feminist opposition to ISIS in Syria


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2015 Nov 30, 7:56pm   7,190 views  24 comments

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/magazine/a-dream-of-utopia-in-hell.html?ref=patrick.net

Mirza grew up outside Syria in a small village in western Iraq. He is not a Muslim or an atheist but a Yazidi, part of an ethnic and religious minority that practices a modern form of Zoroastrianism. He hadn’t heard of Abdullah Ocalan until recently. In August 2014, ISIS extremists attacked his village, near the city of Sinjar, and butchered as many as 5,000 of his neighbors. While Mirza and his family were trapped on a mountain for four days, waiting to die, a battalion of women — Y.P.J. soldiers — fought through the ISIS lines and created a path for them to escape. Mirza, severely dehydrated and on the verge of collapse, fled.

‘‘The battle made me think of women differently,’’ he told me. ‘‘Women fighters — they saved us. My society, Yazidi society, is more, let’s say, traditional. I’d never thought of women as leaders, as heroes, before.’’

holy fuck, a battalion of women fighting ISIS to defend non-Muslims from slaughter. more power to them!

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1   Strategist   2015 Nov 30, 8:14pm  


holy fuck, a battalion of women fighting ISIS to defend non-Muslims from slaughter. more power to them!

What did we, the most powerful nation on earth did to help the Yazidis? Nada.
It takes a bunch of women to do Obama's job.

2   Tenpoundbass   2015 Nov 30, 8:16pm  

Well why not? They seem to think Republicans are as bad as ISIS go tell THEM that shit.

There should be a Femnazi army of Blue and Pink hair militants. They've known each other and have trained around each other for so long their PMS is in sync.
And they time their attacks for 3 days out of the month.

3   resistance   2015 Dec 1, 7:39pm  

oh wait, ISIS is not about religion. they're just peaceful Muslims who happen to slaughter thousands in the name of Islam, just ask @indigenous.

nevermind.

4   Strategist   2015 Dec 1, 7:52pm  


oh wait, ISIS is not about religion. they're just peaceful Muslims who happen to slaughter thousands in the name of Islam, just ask @indigenous.

You haven't even begun to ask Gary. You won't believe what you hear from him.

5   bob2356   2015 Dec 1, 8:05pm  


oh wait, ISIS is not about religion. they're just peaceful Muslims who happen to slaughter thousands in the name of Islam,

Isis is about insanely fanatical saudi wahhabism (representing maybe .001% of muslims in the world) being combined with huge quantities of money flowing from saudi arabia to finance terror around the world. Once people get that clear then maybe something can be done about hitting terrorism at the source rather than reacting.

Oh wait, the war on terror is a major honey pot for corporate campaign contributors pulling the strings on their favourite political puppets. nevermind.

6   Strategist   2015 Dec 1, 8:27pm  

bob2356 says


oh wait, ISIS is not about religion. they're just peaceful Muslims who happen to slaughter thousands in the name of Islam,

Isis is about insanely fanatical saudi wahhabism (representing maybe .001% of muslims in the world)

Which the other maybe .999% of Muslims do nothing about.
25% of the Mid East supported Bin Laden.

7   resistance   2015 Dec 1, 8:43pm  

bob2356 says

Isis is about insanely fanatical saudi wahhabism (representing maybe .001% of muslims in the world) being combined with huge quantities of money flowing from saudi arabia to finance terror around the world. Once people get that clear then maybe something can be done about hitting terrorism at the source rather than reacting.

well, at least you're right about the saudi part. that's a start.

8   indigenous   2015 Dec 1, 9:07pm  


ISIS is not about religion

That is right, they are pawns. They were mainly created by the US by meddling in things things they should not have been meddling in.

9   resistance   2015 Dec 1, 9:15pm  

indigenous says

mainly created by the US

amazing! muslims massacring thousands in the name of islam has nothing to do with islam.

your love of self-blame is very impressive. but c'mon, don't they deserve at least a little credit for all their hard work?

www.faisalalmutar.com/2015/11/16/i-am-a-jihadist-and-i-am-tired-of-not-being-given-credit/

10   resistance   2015 Dec 1, 9:20pm  

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TGVbpsGmLVo

In Kurdish areas of northern Syria, fighters have been battling Islamic State - or ISIS - for two years - and unlike Iraq's kurdish forces, they get no help from the west. Gabriel Gatehouse has been northern Syria to meet some of those taking on the jihadists.

11   indigenous   2015 Dec 1, 9:34pm  


don't they deserve at least a little credit for all their hard work?

Perhaps but they would not be where they are today if not for the US creating the boogeyman called ISIS.

13   resistance   2015 Dec 1, 9:52pm  

indigenous says

Perhaps but they would not be where they are today if not for the US creating the boogeyman called ISIS.

and the saudis. especially the saudis.

but you still give the US way too much credit. the US did not create boko haram, or the uighir islamic terrorists, or the filipino islamic terroirists...

14   indigenous   2015 Dec 1, 9:54pm  

But it would be interesting to see the money trail on those.

15   Patrick   2015 Dec 2, 2:06am  

I bet there's always a trail back to Riyadh.

16   indigenous   2015 Dec 2, 7:01am  

I will bet there is a fork in the trail back to the US and Israel.

17   resistance   2015 Dec 2, 7:10am  

you think the US and Israel is funding muslims groups who want to kill random people in the US and Israel?

maybe the truth is much simpler than you want to believe.

18   indigenous   2015 Dec 2, 7:17am  

Here is a handy guide to show the simplicity of the situation, albeit abbreviated:

19   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Dec 2, 7:19am  

The whole idea that Israel is supporting ISIS is a joke.

"Ya know vat Mordeccai?
"Vat, Schlomo?"
"Ve'd be alot safer if ve vere surrounded by Islamic Extremists in Syria, Lebanon, and maybe Jordan and Egypt, too."
"Oy vey, Schlomo. I think your lox has gone bad."

20   indigenous   2015 Dec 2, 7:33am  

Considering that over half of ISIS senor management is former Republican Guard, it was by taking over Iraq and the displacing of them that pushed them to start something up. Also the Bush and Obama funding of them to attack Syria.

21   resistance   2015 Dec 2, 7:45am  

the US doesn't care enough about getting rid of assad to fund isis. the US is moderately concerned about russian influence with assad, but it's not worth much trouble.

the idea that israel would fund isis is tin-foil hat level lunacy. it's not like israel "needs" more enemies.

that leaves just the saudis as funders of isis, and maybe turkey by buying oil from isis. but the saudis just loathe any shiite power, and assad as an alawaite is a kind of shiite.

sure, former republican guard guys needed jobs, and that's where the jobs were in the area. their participation is an indirect result of the iraq war, not intended. bush was a moron not to make sure they had something more constructive to do.

none of it would be much of an issue for us were it not for the koran instructing war on all unbelievers, and the revival of that attitude in 1928 by the muslim brotherhood with funding from the saudis. pure islam itself is at the core of most terrorism globally.

22   resistance   2015 Dec 2, 7:52am  

indigenous says

Here is a handy guide to show the simplicity of the situation, albeit abbreviated:

hey, did you notice what's missing? the links between the US and saudi arabia. hmmm.

should be the US giving a blow job to saudi arabia, while saudi arabia is thinking that the US is a slutty idiot that will do anything for cheap oil.

23   indigenous   2015 Dec 2, 8:06am  

Good Point. I have often wondered who the 3rd party was in the Middle East and admittedly Saudi does not get near enough exposure from the zombies in the press.

Fundamentally I believe the free market will eventually trump the violence. But the real cause is the 3rd parties it is never caused by the obvious opponents.

24   EBGuy   2015 Dec 2, 12:01pm  

I thought Patrick's headline was a bit over the top, but then I read the article. How do you get an "eco-feminist opposition to ISIS"?
Take one Maoist insurgent, imprisoned and in exile, add books from a radical philosopher/ideologue from Vermont (no, not Bernie Sanders) and you get what one academic described as the conversion of a ‘‘Stalinist caterpillar to libertarian butterfly.’’ The article is a must read.

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