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Call it Crazy says

Why is it the cities run by Democratic Mayor's have all the huge homicide issues? Add Chicago, Oakland, Detroit, Camden, Baltimore, New Orleans, etc to that list....

See a pattern yet??

Never realized that. Very Enlightening.
Criminals and their families vote Democrat.

I see police officers, asking for sensible gun regulations, in the face of increased gun violence due to removals of such legislation. Who cares who the mayor is.

Democratic enclaves are typically much more full of the poor, minority, and disenfranchised vote. The very people who have these types of community issues, are of course, not going to vote Republican.

Strategist says

Criminals and their families vote Democrat.

LOL
We should lock them all up!

How divisive and partisan can you be.

Rew says

Strategist says

Criminals and their families vote Democrat.

LOL

We should lock them all up!

How divisive and partisan can you be.

I supported Obama in 2012. I'm just stating an obvious fact.
Criminals, poor, and minorities tend to vote for democrats.

Call it Crazy says

Apparently you didn't watch your own video. They claimed the violence came from social issues, economic issues, lack of jobs, etc. It wasn't a gun issue but more of a social issues.

That's exactly right! Crime ... and to get crime with gun violence you need what? Access to guns!

So when Republicans vote to kill social programs and reduce gun regulation what are they voting for : crime with guns.

Call it Crazy says

But, we'll just blame it on the guns.... Yeah, that makes sense... Don't dare blame it on the local leadership...

Mayor, it's your fault your predominantly black minority constituents have been relegated to substandard social services, education, health care, and an excess of liquor stores and gun shops.

You really think that's what the Democrats are voting into their towns and asking for?

Defund planned parent hood = less birth control options for underprivileged = unwanted family formation = substandard care and raising children = crime ... just add lax gun regulation ... and ...

bang bang bang.

Call it Crazy says

It ALL points to social issues, which are controlled by the city and the the local leaders (IE: Mayor).

I agree that mayors are really where politics, at the local levels, are most efficient, but don't pretend they are limitless in their power and influence over what happens in their won cities. State and Federal plays huge into this, especially for larger cities.

Call it Crazy says

Sure, let's not point the finger at the mayors and local leadership that allow these cities to turn into the sewers and economic cesspools that they are. The guns are the symptoms, not the CAUSE!!

Detroit! It was all your fault! I cannot believe you did that to yourself!

I'm not sure why cops should be regarded as experts on good public policy in either direction.

We don't let the military dictate the rules of warfare either.

Call it Crazy says

The guns are the symptoms, not the CAUSE!!

Heaven forbid we treat the symptoms! lol

So, CIC, based on the Police testimonies, what would treating the cause look like? Who do you vote into Mayor, Governor, and President to fix the issues?

Vicente says

We don't let the military dictate the rules of warfare either.

Yeah, the Joint Chiefs of Staff are bunch of know nothings. The President's never listen to them in the situation room, nor do they ever listen to any of their Generals appointed for direct oversight and RUNNING WARS.

(Read as ... you are so wrong ...the Police and Military are the experts.)

Call it Crazy says

No, it's the gun's fault!!

Didn't say it was the gun's fault ... it's the availability of the gun that leads to their being increased gun violence in these areas. Right from the police officers mouths.

What's your solution for these cities? I hear what the Police are asking for. What's your solution?

Call it Crazy says

It's amazing how selective your hearing is and how closed minded you are when watching a video.

So you agree with the video? All of the content in it! I do!

Call it Crazy says

Not a single person died or was shot during that hour. Why do you think that was?

Responsible ownership and use of firearms in a safe setting to accommodate.

How do we guarantee more guns are used in this manner? What's your solution for the cities in the video? How does it differ from what the police recommend?

What policies will the non-Libbie leadership enact, for the cities, which will solve the issue?

Rew says

Responsible ownership and use of firearms in a safe setting to accommodate

An armed society is a polite society.

mmmarvel says

An armed society is a polite society.

Yet military armories are generally locked. You want a sidearm? Better have approval.

I'll believe that Republican support is THROUGH AND THROUGH, when they support
allowing both concealed and open carry in Congress.

Vicente says

Yet military armories are generally locked.

During all the hankie wringing and chest beating over those Marines being unarmed in Tennessee and at Fort Hood - and blaming Clinton (goes without saying), I remembered my older relatives' accounts of being on base in the 1950s. Officers made it crystal clear that, from experience of accidental shootings in the military, they didn't want anyone having ammunition unless they signed off on it.

Bitter experience had proved that the armed (and indeed polite) society of a military base had also involved a lot of unintentional - although very polite - accidental discharges of ordnance in the direction of oneself and others. Apparently, friendly fire isn't all that friendly; it's still polite, but it's otherwise identical to any other kind of fire.

A word from a veteran:

We had an accidental discharge AFTER the weapons were "cleared and safe" .... imagine the result for the entire platoon ... you probably can't but I remember well ...

Strategist says

Never realized that. Very Enlightening.

Criminals and their families vote Democrat.

What about criminals who believe the world is 10,000 years old?

Don't they have to vote GOP?

HydroCabron says

Strategist says

Never realized that. Very Enlightening.


Criminals and their families vote Democrat.

What about criminals who believe the world is 10,000 years old?

Don't they have to vote GOP?

hhhmmmmm. I never realized that either.
The answer is Yes.

Call it Crazy says

I'll let you figure it out.

I think you will continue to evade answering like this, because you don't know, or your proposed solutions would sound liberal.

Call it Crazy says

Ahhh, we're finally getting somewhere.... "Responsible ownership".... Where do you think that comes from?

Education.

Of which didn't come from the current NRA, nor the current gun dealers. That has to be learned either through military service, or be part of your family culture already. If it is not from those sources, you have no chance of gaining it, unless you can afford to hire private instruction. If you are poor, you will acquire the tool, without the proper education of use. In these cities you are acquiring the firearm, at best for recreation, more likely for self defense without knowledge, and at worst to use in crime.

That doesn't make for responsible ownership. So again, I ask, and you will avoid answering, how do you address that ... and by your rules ... as mayor only.

When we demand responsibility and knowledge as a requirement for ownership, just like we do with cars, we will start to really curb gun violence.

You can't have a police state when public is armed. That's why "liberals" have been so hard at work trying to disarm the society. Enforcing police state with armed citizenry is cost prohibitive. But if you disarm everyone, well fuck, you can bring just about any kind of Stalinist regime you wish. Poor fucks who can't fight back, will have no choice but to obey.