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Why Its Impossible to Indict a Cop


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2014 Dec 4, 11:19am   3,100 views  9 comments

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"The US Supreme Court ruled that a police officer, henceforth, could use deadly force only if he “has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.” The ruling required that the use of force be “objectively reasonable.”

"“Objectively reasonable”—what could be wrong with that? But in actual courtroom practice, “objective reasonableness” has become nearly impossible to tell apart from the subjective snap judgments of panic-fueled police officers. American courts universally defer to the law enforcement officer’s own personal assessment of the threat at the time."
http://www.thenation.com/article/190937/why-its-impossible-indict-cop#

All they have to do is come up with a good story.
Easy enough when they are given a Garrity warning and go into seclusion with union reps and lawyers for a couple of days before having to make any statements or respond to questions.
I would add that along with panicky hair trigger cops (indoctrinated since the Academy with the idea that their own safety should be the primary focus of their work day) this also protects the testosterone and steroid poisoned sub clinical psychopath cop who wants to shoot everyone that inconveniences, irritates, or "disrespects" him….but only does so occasionally.

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1   Tenpoundbass   2014 Dec 4, 10:35pm  

Because they aren't guilty of killing Black people, they are guilty of murdering innocent citizens and over zealous brutality. But if you want to argue that they killed people because those people were Niggers and the Cop was a raving lunatic Racist, then you're going to lose that case time and time and time and time again.

The Al Sharpton types worst nightmare is that Cops around the country retrain and stop killing citizens in their cities around the country, and leave Al Sharpton without a job.

2   Y   2014 Dec 4, 10:41pm  

u gotta stop reading SlutBitchHoe posts....
they are influencing your grammar.

CaptainShuddup says

Niggers

3   Tenpoundbass   2014 Dec 4, 10:47pm  

I'm not calling black people the N word.
I'm just saying that these cases keep going no where because the Al Sharptons and the White Patnet Liberals keep showing up and injecting the "N" word into the debate.

The cops don't have to account for their brutality or the loss of human lives, they just have to argue that they aren't racists. After that it's a done deal.
All of this racial dog and pony show doesn't do anyone any favors.

Blacks aren't the only ones getting killed by over exuberant cops, itching to try out their lethal moves they learned in training.

The bastards also kill white kids as well.
Israel Hernandez

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/08/2433561/miami-police-tase-teenage-graffiti-artist-to-death/

4   Robert Sproul   2014 Dec 4, 11:58pm  

The linked article doesn't really focus on race.
They can, and do, kill anyone, black, white, woman, child, with the same impunity.
Then the convoluted legal construct of Qualified Immunity protects them from civil liability.

5   Tenpoundbass   2014 Dec 5, 12:11am  

Robert Sproul says

the linked article doesn't really focus on race.

The local government in Ferguson has been treating its residents and neighbors less like free people with rights than like revenue milk-cows to be exploited to the max. Citations and fines for petty offenses are profligately inflicted on residents, particularly black residents.

"Free people" oh like the blacks in Ferguson are the police private slaves?
Oh OK fine and pentalize cops who over reach their authority, "Especially when they abuse black residents!"

Police demilitarization, the decriminalization of working-class people, new policing models: these are all projects that could work in Ferguson and thousands of other American cities. Although none of these large-scale ideas is explicitly race-conscious, they would most likely tighten the severe racial disparities in policing violence that exist all over the country, more so than pouring more money into racial sensitivity training for cops.

Why only decriminalize middle class in Ferguson and few other "SELECT" cities around the nation. Once again the agenda is exceptional rights.

When Israel was killed, only a few pissed off white and Hispanic kids showed up down town Miami, it was a blurb mention in the news. Only because a few of the kids got arrested. But there certainly wasn't any national or Media outrage about the cops tasering this kid for twenty minutes until his heart stopped beating.

The article doesn't mention race because that's the problem,

6   HydroCabron   2014 Dec 5, 1:13am  

CaptainShuddup says

The local government in Ferguson has been treating its residents and neighbors less like free people with rights than like revenue milk-cows to be exploited to the max. Citations and fines for petty offenses are profligately inflicted on residents, particularly black residents.

I can't figure out who said that above, but here's some more on the structure of micro-municipalities and tin-pot police departments funding themselves through traffic citations:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/editorial/a-ride-along-with-lawyers-in-the-st-louis-suburbs/2014/09/04/f79a408a-346f-11e4-9f4d-24103cb8b742_video.html

7   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2014 Dec 5, 2:56am  

Robert Sproul says

Why Its Impossible to Indict a Cop

Because they work for me. Shooting degenerate worthless niggers and shit on my command... And also stopping protests like occupy Wall Street.

8   Dan8267   2014 Dec 5, 4:32am  

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Robert Sproul says

Why Its Impossible to Indict a Cop

Because they work for me.

You may be joking, but this is seriously the problem. The state will not prosecute cops for their crimes because cops protect the state from citizen uprisings. There is a tacit agreement between the states and cops that as long as the cops are loyal to the state, the state will let them get away with almost any crime, the exception being when the citizens threaten revolt for lack of prosecution.

This is precisely why cops, politicians, and lobbyists need to be prosecuted by a separate court system than the public, a court system where the judges, prosecutors, and jury are all made of citizens with no government job history or lobbying history.

9   Robert Sproul   2014 Dec 5, 4:55am  

Yup, it is getting real cozy:
"They look like police officers and they act like police officers — but the off-duty cops guarding Goldman Sachs’ new headquarters are being paid by Goldman, not the city."
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_361/goldmanshired.html

"JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple. The money will pay for 1,000 new patrol car laptops, as well as security monitoring software in the NYPD’s main data center."
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/is-jp-morgan-getting-a-good-return-on-4-6-million-gift-to-nyc-police-like-special-protection-from-occupywallstreet.html

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