patrick.net

I think this virologist is very smart, thought I'd share their blog as a resource, and thought this particular article about the potential for the virus to go airborne was extremely insightful.

I thought it might be particularly informative and relevant based on recent discussion we have had CiC.

What's your take away?

I see. So now you will paint me as the one more concerned over airborne or aerosol transmission, which clearly I have not.

Sorry CiC. That's all you ... so far.

Edit: this is your opening to post the, "I'm just posting links about other people's predictions and data. It's not really ME that believes it, I'm just sharing it" argument. Sorry. If you are linking trash, and things that look alarmist, I think it reflects on you.

Rather then going airborne, it could just mutate into killing more slowly, or starting to be contagious before the host gets really sick.

That would make it more deadly.

Call it Crazy says

Your response.... crickets..

You keep saying things like : "so far, as we know now, etc. etc.
It's going to spread. Our health care system isn't going to be able to handle it. Blah blah."

All links you post are hypothetical and worries about the Ebola outbreak getting worse ... it accelerating.

Conversely, the opinion I have is that this is a close strain of Ebola Zaire that uses the same method of transmission, the same R0 factor, we know a significant amount of information on, and it can be stopped in exactly the same ways it just was in Nigeria.

Call it Crazy says

Well, if you think linking updated charts and data released by the CDC and WHO and posting direct article comments from the director at the CDC, Dr. Thomas Frieden, as "trash" and "alarmist", well maybe it's YOU that should move to a bunker and shelter in for 6 months...

LOL

Call it Crazy says

Yet, you consider posting a blog and opinion written by a SINGLE microbiologist above as OK.... Hmmmm...

Hypocritical maybe?

The noisy doomsday panic being projected by you and others drowns out sanity. Again, for someone who thinks panic is going to be far worse, you don't act like it at all. :)

Call it Crazy says

to find ONE post of mine where I "spread the alarm" about airborne transmission. Your response.... crickets..

What else can one infer from you continually saying and posting that "We don't know", "this is a new strain", and "it could mutate".

I concede. You never said it was airborne, instead you take the stance that we don't know enough about this strain and it "could be". Which looks like this ...

Call it Crazy says

Also, the scientists are studying to see if there has been mutations in this current virus, and studying to see if there has been any airborne spread. They don't know yet. They have cases of contagion where there was zero actual contact with a positive patient.

You, I, nor anybody else can definitely say at this point until further research is completed. So for you to take that stand that it positively cannot be passed by airborne is pretty idiotic...

Yes "it could be", and "so far" it isn't, and it is "unlikely it will be".

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/ebolaairborne.asp

Where are the confirmed cases of zero contact transmissions?

This is garden variety Ebola Zaire until proven otherwise. Everything you point at for evidence as it not being has been explained away.

The thing that has changed is where and who was infected, not by what. Yes, it is the biggest outbreak ever, but it is absolutely like every other outbreak we have seen before, in all measures of transmission, symptoms, pathology, controlling, and stopping.

Care to revise your it could be airborne and we aren't going to be able to control it stances at all?

Call it Crazy says

So, where's my statement where I said it was going airborne?

Not "it was" ... "it could" ... you have reputedly linked the alarmist airborne Ebola articles.

Call it Crazy says

Not until it's fully contained and can be added to the chart above as a "past" outbreak.

Nigera done.
US next.
Spain third.
West Africa eventually.

Guess we will have to "wait and see".

Why is everyone trippin about ebola? The marketers make news stories out of it so that they can sling some alarm system right after. Perhaps yall need to watch "28 days later."

Rew says

The thing that has changed is where and who was infected, not by what. Yes, it is the biggest outbreak ever, but it is absolutely like every other outbreak we have seen before, in all measures of transmission, symptoms, pathology, controlling, and stopping.

Care to revise your it could be airborne and we aren't going to be able to control it stances at all?

This all still stands. You will notice I say where and who are different in the above.

Here is where you say it could be airborne ...

"You, I, nor anybody else can definitely say at this point until further research is completed. So for you to take that stand that it positively cannot be passed by airborne is pretty idiotic..."

Call it Crazy says

Then there were these comments from the CDC yesterday:

"The number of Ebola cases in West Africa has been doubling about every three weeks. There is little evidence so far that the epidemic is losing momentum."

That wasn't the cdc that was the UN envoy. However there is evidence the epidemic might be losing momentum.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/10/09/354754602/could-ebola-be-slowing-down-in-liberia

If new ebola cases are really down by 50% from the peak, at least in liberia, then it is mathmatically impossible for cases to double every 3 weeks. We will have to see is this trend is real and continues.

Ok now we can have the CIC hysterical response.