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Even NAR is saying it now!


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2012 Feb 22, 4:07am   2,696 views  10 comments

by RentingForHalfTheCost   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

If they are saying things went down 2% mth-mth then you can be sure it was actually around double that. And the story continues. Amazing how many people are still not aware of the slide.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/22/real_estate/home_sales/index.htm?iid=HP_LN

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1   RentingForHalfTheCost   2012 Feb 22, 4:14am  

I had to laugh. At the end of that article we see.

"The housing market has been showing signs of recovery in recent months. ".

Huh? a 2% drop in medium price mth-mth and that shows signs of a recovery? If that pace continues we have 24% yr-yr depreciation. Some people just need to get slapped. If they meant a recovery in terms of more defaults, foreclosures, supply growing above 6 months again, abandoned houses, etc. , then I would agree. ;)

2   toothfairy   2012 Feb 22, 7:49am  

if you knew what median price meant you'd understand how it could be falling while the market is recovering

3   RentingForHalfTheCost   2012 Feb 22, 8:36am  

toothfairy says

if you knew what median price meant you'd understand how it could be falling while the market is recovering

It could, but it is not. The medium is just one parameter that I consider and believe me I understand what it means. I actually get paid to understand what it means. ;)

4   🎂 dunnross   2012 Feb 22, 1:33pm  

RentingForHalfTheCost says

"The housing market has been showing signs of recovery in recent months. ".

Of course it's recovering. And all the underwater used-house owners are recovering with it. Recovering from their denial, that is.

5   thomas.wong1986   2012 Feb 22, 1:40pm  

dunnross says

Of course it's recovering.

LOL! well of course the same people over the past years also said..
"soft landing"
"V shaped recovery"
and other crap like that...

And before that ...

"real estate never declines in value"

Its the same people...

6   🎂 dunnross   2012 Feb 22, 1:52pm  

toothfairy says

if you knew what median price meant you'd understand how it could be falling while the market is recovering

Somehow, all the housing bulls (now underwater deadbeats) only learned what a median meant on the way down. They were completely ignorant of it on the way up, when median was going up, but only because nobody was buying at the low end.

7   thomas.wong1986   2012 Feb 22, 1:58pm  

toothfairy says

if you knew what median price meant you'd understand how it could be falling while the market is recovering

Define RECOVERY ...

Recover to what, when, and why ?

Recover to 2005 prices where only 10-15% of SF Bay Area homeowners can afford their own home ?

Bring back teaser rates, interest only, ARM loans ?

Further declines in prices ... is the recovery!

8   JodyChunder   2012 Feb 22, 2:02pm  

thomas.wong1986 says

Bring back teaser rates, interest only, ARM loans ?

there was an article in TIME last week about how our Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Mr. Bernanke was glad to see that the major lenders had finally relaxed credit standards some.

9   thomas.wong1986   2012 Feb 22, 4:24pm  

JodyChunder says

there was an article in TIME last week about how our Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Mr. Bernanke was glad to see that the major lenders had finally relaxed credit standards some.

that would be 'normal lending' what some would call.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-16/bernanke-says-bank-supervisors-need-to-strike-delicate-balance-on-lending.html

Bernanke Says Bank Supervisors Need to Strike Delicate Balance on Lending

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said bank supervisors must strike a ‘delicate balance” between encouraging lending and avoiding a race to the bottom in loan standards.

Speaking on community banking in Arlington, Virginia, the Fed chairman said “supervisors must insist on high standards for lending, risk management, and governance.”

“At the same time, it is important for banks, for their communities, and for the national economy that banks lend to creditworthy borrowers,” Bernanke said today at a conference sponsored by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. “Getting that balance right is not always easy, but it is of utmost importance.”

U.S. banks face higher costs under tougher supervision including the Dodd-Frank Act. The banks have watched the gap shrink between their interest earned and interest paid out as the Fed pushed down long-term interest rates by purchasing $2.3 trillion in bonds and lengthened the average duration of the securities in its portfolio.

“Despite some recent signs of improvement, the recovery has been frustratingly slow, constraining opportunities for profitable lending,” Bernanke said.

10   JodyChunder   2012 Feb 22, 6:00pm  

Not normal in my book Tom. Back in the nineties, if you had an oustanding bill for a copay at a walk-in clinic it would hold up the mortgage approval process. I know because it happened to me! That was strict, but it was normal. Since the risk for these loans is all on the taxpayer there is no real reason for such strict scrutiny I guess.

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