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First sign of the top - declining sales


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2013 Mar 15, 6:43am   35,470 views  126 comments

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Now that super low interest rates are baked into payments, the top is forming in pricing. I know that one month does not make a trend, but one would expect stronger sales with prices increases that we had and we did not get it.

http://dqnews.com/Articles/2013/News/California/Bay-Area/RRBay130314.aspx

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55   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 11:47am  

robertoaribas says

oh, so now you get paid in Yuan? So you price your homes in that currency? makes sense!

No, but it seems that you equate the price of everything else, to the price of your stinky, scorpion infested chicken coops, in the middle of a dry barren desert. When, supermarkets stop accepting $USD for food, I will be able to buy food with my gold and silver coins. I'd like to see what you can do with your stinky shacks.

56   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 11:54am  

dunnross says

robertoaribas says

It is still $1.99 in California, and $2.99 in AZ, just like it has been for a decade, dumbross!!!

"Prices in states other than California have been increased to as high as $3.79 per bottle." - Wikepedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine

Only a moron like you would argue against something that could be so easily verified on the internet.

So was what he said right or wrong?

57   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 11:56am  

robertoaribas says

It is still $1.99 in California, and $2.99 in AZ, just like it has been for a decade, dumbross!!!

For a guy who is supposedly swimming in dough with all his investments, you sure spend a lot of time buying cheap $2 wine.

58   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:01pm  

dunnross says

robertoaribas says

It is still $1.99 in California, and $2.99 in AZ, just like it has been for a decade, dumbross!!!

For a guy who is supposedly swimming in dough with all his investments, you sure spend a lot of time buying cheap $2 wine.

So it's back to $2 now. That was quick.

59   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:08pm  

Bigsby says

So it's back to $2 now. That was quick.

No, it's still called $2-buck-chuck, but it's not $2 any more. That's why I said $2 wine. But, nice try, anyway.

60   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:11pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

So it's back to $2 now. That was quick.

No, it's still called $2-buck-chuck, but it's not $2 any more. That's why I said $2 wine. But, nice try, anyway.

It isn't $2 anymore? I'm pretty sure I've seen it for $1.99...

61   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:11pm  

robertoaribas says

It is still $1.99 in California

It's not even $2 in California any more. What a total, complete fool you are filthy house peddler from Phoenix. You can't even argue on your own turf. Ha, ha, ha!

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_22420517/trader-joes-two-buck-chuck-price-rises-249-bottle

62   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:16pm  

dunnross says

robertoaribas says

It is still $1.99 in California

It's not even $2 in California any more. What a total, complete fool you are filthy house peddler from Phoenix. You can't even argue on your own turf. Ha, ha, ha!

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_22420517/trader-joes-two-buck-chuck-price-rises-249-bottle

Wow, absolutely ridiculous. You pull someone up in post after post about the price of a cheap bottle of wine that has just within a matter of weeks been raised in price to the staggering amount of $2.49. What exactly are you doing? It's just idiotic, much like your home comment. I remember Darrell in Phoenix saying the same thing. Says it all really.

63   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:17pm  

Bigsby says

It isn't $2 anymore? I'm pretty sure I've seen it for $1.99...

Listen some more to your friend - the Bernanke-c**k-sucker, and you will believe in even more things.

64   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:19pm  

Bigsby says

You pull someone up in post after post about the price of a cheap bottle of wine that has just within a matter of weeks been raised in price to the staggering amount of $2.49. What exactly are you doing?

I didn't bring up the cheap wine. It's your friend, the millionaire c**k-sucker who brought it up.

65   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:20pm  

dunnross says

I didn't bring up the cheap wine. It's your friend, the millionaire c**k-sucker who brought it up. And, if you recall, he tried to let everyone know that I was wrong again, even about this. Let this be on the record, that, I was right, as always, the c**k-sucker was the one who called me a liar for no reason at all, when he was the one, who was wrong.

66   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:22pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

You pull someone up in post after post about the price of a cheap bottle of wine that has just within a matter of weeks been raised in price to the staggering amount of $2.49. What exactly are you doing?

I didn't bring up the cheap wine. It's your friend, the millionaire c**k-sucker who brought it up.

Er, he's not my friend. And you are the one who spent an inordinate amount of time going on about his figures being wrong because, finally, you found out that, shock-horror, the price was raised to $2.49 a little over a month ago. Does this triumph make you feel better about yourself?

67   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:27pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

It isn't $2 anymore? I'm pretty sure I've seen it for $1.99...

Listen some more to your friend - the Bernanke-c**k-sucker, and you will believe in even more things.

I was at my HOME in Monterey in January. It was $1.99. But thank you for finally finding out that it has gone up by 50c in the last 6 weeks so that you can shout about how right you are and how wrong Roberto is. Very grown up.

68   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:27pm  

Bigsby says

you found out that, shock-horror, the price was raised to $2.49 a little over a month ago.

You missed the point, entirely. Now, you're trying to protect your friend, by attacking me. The idiot peddler from Phoenix tried to dishonor my good reputation on this blog, by attacking me about some cheap $2 wine, and then, both of you tried to attack me. I quietly retorted and proved both of you completely wrong, although it was your friend, the moron beastiologist from the desert, who accused me of being wrong about some stupid wine which he loves to drink so much.

69   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:29pm  

dunnross says

You missed the point, entirely. Now, you're trying to protect your friend, by attacking me. The idiot peddler from Phoenix tried to dishonor my good reputation on this blog, by attacking me about some cheap $2 wine, and then, both of you tried to attack me. I quietly retorted and proved both of you completely wrong, although it was your friend, the moron beastiologist from the desert, who accused me of being wrong about some stupid wine which he loves to drink so much.

Good grief. You went to Wiki and it didn't prove your point. You then got lucky and found out that they had very recently raised the price by 50c, 50c in a decade. Well done. Congratulations! Should we throw a party?
Do you understand how childish you sound with these posts? Mind, your 'tried to dishonor my good reputation by attacking me about some cheap $2 wine' comment made me laugh. Presumably calling someone a 'beastiologist' is perfectly fine though.

70   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:32pm  

Bigsby says

But thank you for finally finding out that it has gone up by 50c in the last 6 weeks

I see, now. You're a fan of the Math professor, because, compared to you, his knowledge of math seems gargantuous. Do you realize that 50c increase on $2 is a 25% increase. That's even more than the price increase of a rotten middle-of-a-desert chicken coup, according to your friend the math-mizering, dog-sniffing c**k-sucker.

71   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:33pm  

Bigsby says

You went to Wiki and it didn't prove your point

Why didn't Wiki prove my point. Wiki said that price went up from $2 to $3.79 in all states, except California. That's not a proof enough for you. Oh, sorry, I forgot that you never graduated from 3rd grade in Math.

72   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:35pm  

dunnross says

I see, now. You're a fan of the Math professor, because, compared to you, his knowledge of math seems gargantuous. Do you realize that 50c increase on $2 is a 25% increase. That's even more than the price increase of a rotten middle-of-a-desert chicken coup, according to your friend the math-mizering, dog-sniffing c**k-sucker.

How long has the wine been on the market? How much has it gone up in that period? Raising the price by 50c doesn't necessarily mean that costs have suddenly shot up, does it? And like I said, try acting like an adult because your whiny little attacks make you sound very immature indeed.

73   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:38pm  

Bigsby says

And like I said, try acting like an adult because your whiny little attacks make you sound very immature indeed.

Hey, what's going on here? You accuse me of spending too much time talking about the stupid wine, and you, yourself, can't stop foaming at your mouth, talking about it, now can you? Tell me the truth - is the math-mizer sucking your c**k now, too?

74   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:39pm  

dunnross says

"Prices in states other than California have been increased to as high as $3.79 per bottle."

You stated, and I quote "Prices in states other than California have been increased to as high as $3.79 per bottle." That doesn't mean that the prices in CA couldn't still have been $1.99 and $2.99 where Roberto lives. But no, no, you were right. Prices went up 50c six weeks ago, so you can celebrate how right you were and how wrong we were. Well done. Mind, I'm pretty sure Trader Joe's has special offers. When they do, does that mean I'll be right again? Oh, how exciting.

75   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:42pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

And like I said, try acting like an adult because your whiny little attacks make you sound very immature indeed.

Hey, what's going on here? You accuse me of spending too much time talking about the stupid wine, and you, yourself, can't stop foaming at your mouth, talking about it, now can you? Tell me the truth - is the math-mizer sucking your c**k now, too?

Well, someone posts and someone responds. That's generally how a forum works. Your post just struck me as a very strange basis for trying to attack your online foe. I'm just wondering why you are doing it and what you are trying to prove because I really don't see your goal. Much like your home comment.

76   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:43pm  

He is Mr. Logarithm,
He is Mr. sin,
He is Mr. Pythogarean Theorem,
He is Mr. 2-buck-wine!
Everything that he touch, turns to lies in his clutch!

He is too, he is too, he is too much!

77   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:45pm  

dunnross says

He is Mr. Logarithm,

He is Mr. sin,

He is Mr. Pythogarean Theorem,

He is Mr. 2-buck-wine!

Everything that he touch, turns to lies in his clutch!

He is too, he is too, he is too much!

Do you not think you are taking your Roberto fixation a little too far?

78   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:48pm  

Bigsby says

Do you not think you are taking your Roberto fixation a little too far?

No, sir, you seem to be the one who is fixated on Roberto. In fact, you got so hung up on attacking me on this, that you, yourself, forgot that it was Roberto who accused me of lying about the wine.

79   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:51pm  

Bigsby says

That doesn't mean that the prices in CA couldn't still have been $1.99 and $2.99 where Roberto lives.

The Math-mizer doesn't live in CA. He can't afford to live here.

80   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:53pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

Do you not think you are taking your Roberto fixation a little too far?

No, sir, you seem to be the one who is fixated on Roberto. In fact, you got so hung up on attacking me on this, that you, yourself, forgot that it was Roberto who accused me of lying about the wine.

Eh? The posts are right above. You said the wine had gone up in price to $3.99 in 3 years + naturally, added an insult. No they hadn't. Roberto pulled you up on that, giving figures that were correct until 6 weeks ago. He didn't accuse you of lying. He pointed out that your figures were inaccurate. Who, exactly, was more off base with their figures?

81   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 12:56pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

That doesn't mean that the prices in CA couldn't still have been $1.99 and $2.99 where Roberto lives.

The Math-mizer doesn't live in CA. He can't afford to live here.

That post may have a point, but you'll have to explain it to me.

82   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:57pm  

Bigsby says

I'm just wondering why you are doing it and what you are trying to prove because I really don't see your goal.

My goal is to help the readers of patrick.net to find the light in this big ponzi scheme we call the housing market, which, should have been called the debt-servitude market.
People like roberto, and the likes of him, have been doing all of us a huge disservice, prostituting their wares, enriching themselves, at the cost of driving everyone else into debt slavery. The damaged caused by assholes like roberto, will be felt by many generations to come. People like him should be hung up by their balls in the middle of village square, not defended by clueless victims, such as yourself.

83   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 12:58pm  

Bigsby says

He didn't accuse you of lying. He pointed out that your figures were inaccurate.

Oh, I guess calling me wrong this time, just like I was wrong at predicting the direction of the house market, doesn't sound like calling me a liar, ha.

84   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 1:03pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

He didn't accuse you of lying. He pointed out that your figures were inaccurate.

Oh, I guess calling me wrong this time, just like I was wrong at predicting the direction of the house market, doesn't sound like calling me a liar, ha.

You said the wine was $3.99. He said it was $1.99/2.99. He said you were wrong. You were as were we. He didn't say you were lying. There's a difference.

85   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 1:04pm  

dunnross says

My goal is to help the readers of patrick.net to find the light in this big ponzi scheme we call the housing market, which, should have been called the debt-servitude market.

People like roberto, and the likes of him, have been doing all of us a huge disservice, prostituting their wares, enriching themselves, at the cost of driving everyone else into debt slavery. The damaged caused by assholes like roberto, will be felt by many generations to come. People like him should be hung up by their balls in the middle of village square, not defended by clueless victims, such as yourself.

That really is a lot of overblown nonsense. Just laughable.

86   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 1:04pm  

robertoaribas says

You had to be wrong even about that! Gotta hand it to you, if you say something it just has to be wrong!!!

Here is the 1st quote from roberto. And you still have the balls to defend him?

87   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 1:05pm  

dunnross says

robertoaribas says

You had to be wrong even about that! Gotta hand it to you, if you say something it just has to be wrong!!!

Here is the 1st quote from roberto. And you still have the balls to defend him?

You were wrong. What is your point?

88   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 1:05pm  

Bigsby says

That really is a lot of overblown nonsense.

What hole have you climbed out of? Where have you been for the last 6 years - Mars or Jupiter?

89   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 1:08pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

That really is a lot of overblown nonsense.

What hole have you climbed out of? Where have you been for the last 6 years - Mars or Jupiter?

Ha. And here comes Superanti-realtorman Dunnross to protect us all from the terrible impact of Roberto buying a handful of cheap houses in Phoenix. You do understand that Roberto was also a RE bear until a relatively short time ago, as was everyone else on here.

90   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 1:10pm  

Bigsby says

That really is a lot of overblown nonsense. Just laughable.

Do you realize that if we didn't have so many c**k suckers like you who are willing to throw their life's savings into a 2-bit shack in the middle of an arid dried up postage stamp, house prices would have been much much lower now, and wouldn't have 3 generations of people living in ponzi scheme servitude.

91   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 1:11pm  

Bigsby says

Roberto was also a RE bear until a relatively short time ago, as was everyone else on here.

Unlike me, who actually prooved that I sold my house back in 2006, by showing all of you my post directly from 2006, Roberto never showed us any proof of that. Now, it's easy for him to brag about it, but, in reality, that's a total lie, like everything else about him is.

92   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 1:21pm  

robertoaribas says

Homes all over the US were available at prices much lower than rent,

This just proves that you've never even stepped foot in California, because, if you had, you wouldn't be spewing such nonsense out of the side of your mouth. Or, is it some other crack, you've been spewing out of? Prices nowhere within 30 miles off the coast have ever been below rent since 1995.

robertoaribas says

I was in Orange County last week, and picked up a case of 2 buck chuck at tader joes, since it was $1.99 a bottle

Hmm. Interesting how you did that, if prices had already gone up to $2.49 in January.

93   dunnross   2013 Mar 17, 1:30pm  

robertoaribas says

I'm drinking one right this second, dipstick...

Yep, I can definitely tell you have been.

94   Bigsby   2013 Mar 17, 2:08pm  

dunnross says

Bigsby says

That really is a lot of overblown nonsense. Just laughable.

Do you realize that if we didn't have so many c**k suckers like you who are willing to throw their life's savings into a 2-bit shack in the middle of an arid dried up postage stamp, house prices would have been much much lower now, and wouldn't have 3 generations of people living in ponzi scheme servitude.

You really are charming. So I'm a c*cksucker because I bought a house? If you want to spend your life renting or whatever it is you are actually doing, then fine, but quit insulting people who actually bought because it's a bloody ridiculous comment to make. And didn't you just say you sold to someone in 2006? Presumably that means you royally screwed them over back then, so get off your high horse.
And last time I checked, Monterey isn't that arid. In fact, I have quite a few very nice oak and pine trees on my property.
And the simple truth of the matter is that house prices in the US as a whole are not expensive. Parts of CA certainly are, but you appear to talk for the country as a whole.

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