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The_Deplorable
2024 Feb 21, 12:51pm
mell says
Your logic fails here because we have a criminal activity of gargantuan proportions and you want to charge the victims even more money! No! The correct course of action is to arrest and get rid of the crooks and not to claim that the boomers are not paying enough!
"Yes I agree that the services are often better elsewhere, at least in Northern European countries, but that doesn't change the fact that boomers receive more than they paid in in nominal Dollars!"
Your logic fails here because we have a criminal activity of gargantuan proportions and you want to charge the victims even more money! No! The correct course of action is to arrest and get rid of the crooks and not to claim that the boomers are not paying enough!
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The_Deplorable
2024 Feb 21, 12:57pm
UkraineIsFucked says
It is not the doctors who are overcharging. It is the health insurance companies that own the hospitals and employ the doctors. These are the real crooks that need to be kicked out.
"Doctors in Sweden get paid less than $100k on average, too. Good luck trying that here."
It is not the doctors who are overcharging. It is the health insurance companies that own the hospitals and employ the doctors. These are the real crooks that need to be kicked out.
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UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Feb 21, 1:11pm
UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Feb 21, 1:11pm
The_Deplorable says
Doctor owned providers do the same damn thing.
Every country but us institutes health national budget price controls. Even Singapore with its HSA+Catastrophic Insurance system. Even Germany and Switzerland that have private sector delivery systems similar to ours. But when it comes to budgeting, they impose controls just as countries with socialized systems like Sweden and Canada do, one way or another.
It is not the doctors who are overcharging. It is the health insurance companies that own the hospitals and employ the doctors. These are the real crooks that need to be kicked out.
Doctor owned providers do the same damn thing.
Every country but us institutes health national budget price controls. Even Singapore with its HSA+Catastrophic Insurance system. Even Germany and Switzerland that have private sector delivery systems similar to ours. But when it comes to budgeting, they impose controls just as countries with socialized systems like Sweden and Canada do, one way or another.
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mell
2024 Feb 21, 1:12pm
The_Deplorable says
The boomers mainly voted in all of these crooks and their crooked changes, hoping they will not have to pay for it in their lifetime.
The_Deplorable says
Agreed, but it's not just the insurances, the MDs that most regular Joe's can afford and have access to don't care much for you, provide crappy (dis)service (push pills or even worse, the clot shots) and charge and arm and a leg to pay for med school knowledge from 30 years ago. If you have a lot of money you can have access to top notch MDs, as they don't take most insurances. In fact many aided in the clot shot / covid "treatments" genocides. Those who got serious covid and went into a hospital had a not so small chance of being killed. Not to mention the cash for clot shot schemes
mell says
"Yes I agree that the services are often better elsewhere, at least in Northern European countries, but that doesn't change the fact that boomers receive more than they paid in in nominal Dollars!"
Your logic fails here because we have a criminal activity of gargantuan proportions and you want to charge the victims even more money! No! The correct course of action is to arrest and get rid of the crooks and not to claim that the boomers are not paying enough!
The boomers mainly voted in all of these crooks and their crooked changes, hoping they will not have to pay for it in their lifetime.
The_Deplorable says
UkraineIsFucked says
"Doctors in Sweden get paid less than $100k on average, too. Good luck trying that here."
It is not the doctors who are overcharging. It is the health insurance companies that own the hospitals and employ the doctors. These are the real crooks that need to be kicked out.
Agreed, but it's not just the insurances, the MDs that most regular Joe's can afford and have access to don't care much for you, provide crappy (dis)service (push pills or even worse, the clot shots) and charge and arm and a leg to pay for med school knowledge from 30 years ago. If you have a lot of money you can have access to top notch MDs, as they don't take most insurances. In fact many aided in the clot shot / covid "treatments" genocides. Those who got serious covid and went into a hospital had a not so small chance of being killed. Not to mention the cash for clot shot schemes
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HeadSet
2024 Feb 21, 1:21pm
HeadSet
2024 Feb 21, 1:21pm
I think Nikki Haley's strategy is to be the only one left standing if Trump is taken out by lawfare or murder. Then she will run as an establishment candidate.
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The_Deplorable
2024 Feb 21, 1:22pm
mell says
No they did not. Back then tens of thousands of boomers got killed and injured fighting the useless war in Vietnam and at the same time fought the establishment to stop that war. And the war in Vietnam started with the assassination of JFK in 1963.
"The boomers mainly voted in all of these crooks and their crooked changes,"
No they did not. Back then tens of thousands of boomers got killed and injured fighting the useless war in Vietnam and at the same time fought the establishment to stop that war. And the war in Vietnam started with the assassination of JFK in 1963.
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Ceffer
2024 Feb 21, 2:03pm
Ceffer
2024 Feb 21, 2:03pm
mell says
This is a non sequitur verging on assertion fallacy. Maybe you get satisfaction demonizing BoomFucks, but you are deep in the Globalist trap of misdirected blame game and social division. The world is a bit more complex than that. The BoomFucks didn't have some kind of nefarious scheme because they had an advantaged period after WWII. They were just people taking advantage of a temporary environmental and governmental situation not of their own making. A lot of them squandered it, as do winners and losers of every generation, a few rode the wheel of fortune and did well.
Maybe your kids will be happy to shove you into the euthanasia ovens to get your shit. Or, they will remind you constantly what a flaming shitbird you are through some misbegotten guilt trip because they didn't have your opportunities and it's all your fault because of the way you voted.
The boomers mainly voted in all of these crooks and their crooked changes, hoping they will not have to pay for it in their lifetime.
This is a non sequitur verging on assertion fallacy. Maybe you get satisfaction demonizing BoomFucks, but you are deep in the Globalist trap of misdirected blame game and social division. The world is a bit more complex than that. The BoomFucks didn't have some kind of nefarious scheme because they had an advantaged period after WWII. They were just people taking advantage of a temporary environmental and governmental situation not of their own making. A lot of them squandered it, as do winners and losers of every generation, a few rode the wheel of fortune and did well.
Maybe your kids will be happy to shove you into the euthanasia ovens to get your shit. Or, they will remind you constantly what a flaming shitbird you are through some misbegotten guilt trip because they didn't have your opportunities and it's all your fault because of the way you voted.
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stereotomy
2024 Feb 21, 2:23pm
stereotomy
2024 Feb 21, 2:23pm
I blame the boomers not for the conventional things, but because they gave the game plan away to the deep state. Sure, they were high on drugs and naive as hell, but they scared the deep state enough to create, over the course of the next 70 years, the censorship/propaganda nightmare that we are all living though.
Meanwhile, other boomers were creating Darpanet, which was used in the 90's to topple foreign governments in "color revolutions." Tucker had a great interview about this.
I and my wife have been victims of the promotions passover strategy of boomers in preference for their children, the so-called "millenials."
You reap what you sow, and for the boomers, the harvest is meager in the extreme, at least if I have anything to say about it.
Meanwhile, other boomers were creating Darpanet, which was used in the 90's to topple foreign governments in "color revolutions." Tucker had a great interview about this.
I and my wife have been victims of the promotions passover strategy of boomers in preference for their children, the so-called "millenials."
You reap what you sow, and for the boomers, the harvest is meager in the extreme, at least if I have anything to say about it.
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mell
2024 Feb 21, 2:59pm
Ceffer says
It's not social division, at least not by class or race or gender, and it's not about demonizing. Also it goes without saying that this is a generalization, but we are not helpless against whatever people think the enemy is, we are part of it if we vote for it. This notion that nobody is at fault for evil is bs. Sure everybody has their comfort zones they don't want to step out of, and that's fine. But you're not blameless if you let them inject your kids with the clot shot, and you're not blameless if you voted for a disastrous financial policy kicking the can down the road and burdening your children with debt you shouldn't have spent in the first place. You know why facetwat is making so much money and its stock is soaring? It's because boomers and Gen x ers are almost exclusively using it now and spending money on it cause they have it. I'm not saying go protest and land yourself in jail, but at the minimum vote for financial prudence (even if it means you will have less if it's the right thing to do, i.e. don't take money from others or future generations), and educate others during talks. After all, most of the most powerful who are supposedly running the world are all boomers
Maybe you get satisfaction demonizing BoomFucks, but you are deep in the Globalist trap of misdirected blame game and social division
It's not social division, at least not by class or race or gender, and it's not about demonizing. Also it goes without saying that this is a generalization, but we are not helpless against whatever people think the enemy is, we are part of it if we vote for it. This notion that nobody is at fault for evil is bs. Sure everybody has their comfort zones they don't want to step out of, and that's fine. But you're not blameless if you let them inject your kids with the clot shot, and you're not blameless if you voted for a disastrous financial policy kicking the can down the road and burdening your children with debt you shouldn't have spent in the first place. You know why facetwat is making so much money and its stock is soaring? It's because boomers and Gen x ers are almost exclusively using it now and spending money on it cause they have it. I'm not saying go protest and land yourself in jail, but at the minimum vote for financial prudence (even if it means you will have less if it's the right thing to do, i.e. don't take money from others or future generations), and educate others during talks. After all, most of the most powerful who are supposedly running the world are all boomers
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Ceffer
2024 Feb 21, 4:34pm
Ceffer
2024 Feb 21, 4:34pm
Don't be victims of fake pity pot imposed social divisions. These are projections, media imposed phantoms. Even around here, there is probably enough education about cause and effect relationships in government and society to know that these are wedges that play into the hands of the propagandists. They just have to divide and hear the chorus of whining amongst those who should be united.
It's fake victimization, not much different from the LGBQT and trannies, but on a different target group.
Everybody has shit they can cry about in their poor lives. I watched opportunities that previous guys had collapse like cheap sets as soon as I finished my education to presumably take advantage of them. I barely got into the education because of all the equal opportunity baloney with women and minorities, and watched many morons create catastrophe.
So what. You need to grow up and take responsibility for what you can instead of some false delusion about a fake intergenerational enemy.
It's fake victimization, not much different from the LGBQT and trannies, but on a different target group.
Everybody has shit they can cry about in their poor lives. I watched opportunities that previous guys had collapse like cheap sets as soon as I finished my education to presumably take advantage of them. I barely got into the education because of all the equal opportunity baloney with women and minorities, and watched many morons create catastrophe.
So what. You need to grow up and take responsibility for what you can instead of some false delusion about a fake intergenerational enemy.
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mell
2024 Feb 21, 4:52pm
Ceffer says
Yeah like voting not to increase national debt to pay for already bankrupt programs and put the burden onto future generations, that's taking responsibility. They're not enemies, but grifters The_Deplorable says
Unfortunately they did vote for those crooked changes. Vietnam has nothing to do with it. However they did have more reservations against military action in Iraq which is likely due to Vietnam, while the younger generations were easier exploited by the so called war on terror.
So what. You need to grow up and take responsibility for what you can instead of some false delusion about a fake intergenerational enemy.
Yeah like voting not to increase national debt to pay for already bankrupt programs and put the burden onto future generations, that's taking responsibility. They're not enemies, but grifters The_Deplorable says
mell says
"The boomers mainly voted in all of these crooks and their crooked changes,"
No they did not. Back then tens of thousands of boomers got killed and injured fighting the useless war in Vietnam and at the same time fought the establishment to stop that war. And the war in Vietnam started with the assassination of JFK in 1963.
Unfortunately they did vote for those crooked changes. Vietnam has nothing to do with it. However they did have more reservations against military action in Iraq which is likely due to Vietnam, while the younger generations were easier exploited by the so called war on terror.
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mell
2024 Feb 21, 4:56pm
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234584
Worth a read on how Medicare and SS are bankrupting the US and screwing over future generations.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233607
Worth a read on how Medicare and SS are bankrupting the US and screwing over future generations.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233607
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richwicks
2024 Feb 21, 5:05pm
richwicks
2024 Feb 21, 5:05pm
The_Deplorable says
About 60,000 Americans were killed in action. World War II had 290,000 Americans killed in action.
The people who were PROPERLY opposed to the Vietnam war, were more than eager to shove Generation X and Y into endless wars, from Operation Dessert Storm on up. The generation that knew the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag and never happened, were happy to go along with a bunch of lies that put this nation into over 30 years of war.
They are the ones that should have known best. Total hypocrite generation.
As soon as THEY weren't being killed, it was FINE to shovel in their children and grand children into bullshit wars.
They are happy to support lies for wars, PROVIDED they aren't the victims of it. That's the reality of the boomers.
No they did not. Back then tens of thousands of boomers got killed and injured fighting the useless war in Vietnam and at the same time fought the establishment to stop that war.
About 60,000 Americans were killed in action. World War II had 290,000 Americans killed in action.
The people who were PROPERLY opposed to the Vietnam war, were more than eager to shove Generation X and Y into endless wars, from Operation Dessert Storm on up. The generation that knew the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag and never happened, were happy to go along with a bunch of lies that put this nation into over 30 years of war.
They are the ones that should have known best. Total hypocrite generation.
As soon as THEY weren't being killed, it was FINE to shovel in their children and grand children into bullshit wars.
They are happy to support lies for wars, PROVIDED they aren't the victims of it. That's the reality of the boomers.
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just_passing_through
2024 Feb 21, 5:14pm
just_passing_through
2024 Feb 21, 5:14pm
mell says
Guy needs to work on his fonts a little. Not saying he's wrong but one claim:
"This is no longer a "distant" threat. It now will occur prior to the end of the next Presidential term, and any acceleration in the deficit in these programs, which will happen instantly when there is a recession, will likely bring forward that date by three to four years immediately rendering the problem both instant and catastrophic." - stated in 2018 so what, we're less than a year away?
Worth a read on how Medicare and SS are bankrupting the US and screwing over future generations.
Guy needs to work on his fonts a little. Not saying he's wrong but one claim:
"This is no longer a "distant" threat. It now will occur prior to the end of the next Presidential term, and any acceleration in the deficit in these programs, which will happen instantly when there is a recession, will likely bring forward that date by three to four years immediately rendering the problem both instant and catastrophic." - stated in 2018 so what, we're less than a year away?
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mell
2024 Feb 21, 5:23pm
just_passing_through says
I agree that putting exact dates on such events/predictions is never a good idea, it's better to just describe trends, but the general math is sound. I am not banking on any significant returns in terms of buying power for my contributions to SS/Medicare and treating them conservatively as zero returns in any financial calculations.
mell says
Worth a read on how Medicare and SS are bankrupting the US and screwing over future generations.
Guy needs to work on his fonts a little. Not saying he's wrong but one claim:
"This is no longer a "distant" threat. It now will occur prior to the end of the next Presidential term, and any acceleration in the deficit in these programs, which will happen instantly when there is a recession, will likely bring forward that date by three to four years immediately rendering the problem both instant and catastrophic." - 2018 so what, we're less than a year away?
I agree that putting exact dates on such events/predictions is never a good idea, it's better to just describe trends, but the general math is sound. I am not banking on any significant returns in terms of buying power for my contributions to SS/Medicare and treating them conservatively as zero returns in any financial calculations.
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Ceffer
2024 Feb 21, 5:47pm
Ceffer
2024 Feb 21, 5:47pm
Illuminati road kill. It's just that easy to trap into emotional prisons of social division tilting at windmills instead of identifying real forces and enemies.
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HeadSet
2024 Feb 21, 7:28pm
HeadSet
2024 Feb 21, 7:28pm
just_passing_through says
Is her husband out of town again?
Also I want to repeat: fuck Nimrod Haley.
Is her husband out of town again?
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The_Deplorable
2024 Feb 22, 11:11am
richwicks says
To be more specific...
1. The people who opposed the Vietnam war were the Baby Boomers.
2. The people who started the war in Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin etc) were the same people who gave us Desert Storm...
3. The same people who assassinated JFK...
4. The same people who invaded Iraq (Weapons of Mass Destruction)...
5. The same people who started the useless war against Russia in Ukraine...
"The people who were PROPERLY opposed to the Vietnam war, were more than eager to shove Generation X and Y into endless wars, from Operation Dessert Storm on up. The generation that knew the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag and never happened, were happy to go along with a bunch of lies that put this nation into over 30 years of war."
To be more specific...
1. The people who opposed the Vietnam war were the Baby Boomers.
2. The people who started the war in Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin etc) were the same people who gave us Desert Storm...
3. The same people who assassinated JFK...
4. The same people who invaded Iraq (Weapons of Mass Destruction)...
5. The same people who started the useless war against Russia in Ukraine...
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UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Feb 22, 11:52am
UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Feb 22, 11:52am
The_Deplorable says
Bush, Jr is a Boomer. I think Biden is Silent Generation
To be more specific...
1. The people who opposed the Vietnam war were the Baby Boomers.
2. The people who started the war in Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin etc) were the same people who gave us Desert Storm...
3. The same people who assassinated JFK...
4. The same people who invaded Iraq (Weapons of Mass Destruction)...
5. The same people who started the useless war against Russia in Ukraine...
Bush, Jr is a Boomer. I think Biden is Silent Generation
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Misc
2024 Feb 24, 11:00pm
Haley was governor of South Carolina for 8 years. - She lost
In Nevada she lost to "None of the Above".
Somebody is paying her good money to make a fool of herself.
In Nevada she lost to "None of the Above".
Somebody is paying her good money to make a fool of herself.
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HeadSet
2024 Feb 25, 7:30am
HeadSet
2024 Feb 25, 7:30am
Misc says
May not be the fool. She does not have to beat Trump, she just has to be the only choice left if Trump is taken out.
Haley was governor of South Carolina for 8 years.-She lost
In Nevada she lost to "None of the Above".
Somebody is paying her good money to make a fool of herself.
May not be the fool. She does not have to beat Trump, she just has to be the only choice left if Trump is taken out.
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The_Deplorable
2024 Feb 25, 12:42pm
What can she do? Simple... Get Lost!
We the people know that she is a Globalist Nazi and that she is not a Republican.
She is a RINO, a loser and a member of the Uniparty.
What can she do? Simple... Get Lost!
We the people know that she is a Globalist Nazi and that she is not a Republican.
She is a RINO, a loser and a member of the Uniparty.
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HeadSet
2024 Feb 26, 6:09pm
HeadSet
2024 Feb 26, 6:09pm
RC2006 says
She is counting on being the last one standing when Trump is removed.
Can't believe this cunt is still in.
She is counting on being the last one standing when Trump is removed.
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UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Feb 27, 9:18am
UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Feb 27, 9:18am
HeadSet says
There, fixed it for ya.
She isHer donors are counting on being the last one standing when Trump is removed
There, fixed it for ya.
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Misc
2024 Mar 3, 6:24pm
I dunno if this completely disqualifies her or not.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nikki-haley-wins-the-district-of-columbia-s-republican-primary-and-gets-her-first-2024-victory/ar-BB1jh9My?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=89a384613485449da8af8a1ea2812c20&ei=29
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nikki-haley-wins-the-district-of-columbia-s-republican-primary-and-gets-her-first-2024-victory/ar-BB1jh9My?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=89a384613485449da8af8a1ea2812c20&ei=29
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Ceffer
2024 Mar 3, 6:51pm
Ceffer
2024 Mar 3, 6:51pm
Misc says
LOL! Her 'victory' was in the foreign occupied foreign City State of Washington DC? She may as well have 'Swiss Octagon' tattooed on her forehead.
I dunno if this completely disqualifies her or not.
LOL! Her 'victory' was in the foreign occupied foreign City State of Washington DC? She may as well have 'Swiss Octagon' tattooed on her forehead.
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HeadSet
2024 Mar 4, 6:42am
HeadSet
2024 Mar 4, 6:42am
Ceffer says
And even that count may be influenced by Dems who registered as Republicans for this promary.
Misc says
I dunno if this completely disqualifies her or not.
LOL! Her 'victory' was in the foreign occupied foreign City State of Washington DC? She may as well have 'Swiss Octagon' tattooed on her forehead.
And even that count may be influenced by Dems who registered as Republicans for this promary.
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porkchopXpress
2024 Mar 6, 8:57am
porkchopXpress
2024 Mar 6, 8:57am
UkraineIsFucked says
I'm a Nikki supporter because I agree on one policy? What a dumbass comment.
porkchopXpress says
Raising the age impacts all Social Security recipients equally. Raising the cap on FICA unfairly impacts those who make more money. Raise the age before raising the cap, which already happens with inflation
Hahahaha. You funny!
You are also now a de-facto Nikki supporter. Whether you accept that characterization or not. Because as I said, that is the position of the donor base backing her.
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