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Media pushing Haley is all you need to know about her. DeSantis ran a catastrophically horrible campaign, and just seemed off in general.

Tenpoundbass says

Now the Shitbirds are harping about who's going to be second. What good is second place in a Primary when there's that much air between the winner and the closet loser?

There is an entire Grifter clas that must be fed. The consultants, Frank Lunz pollsters, party organizers, news media hacks (Fox News being desperate). All paid for primarily by CEO type donors who are not used to being told they can't lord over the rest of us.

That's why.

Misc says

Then there is always the possibility that Trump could get assassinated -- Sure we never saw that coming ! ! ! ! ! !

I think the odds are rising of at least an attempt as everything else fails and they grow more desperate.

AmericanKulak says

Need a real Sumbitch as Dirty Tricks Manager. Stone, maybe. Manafort would have them flipping. I betcha Manafort has some dirt on some RINOs, too.

Trump really digging deep into his bench. That swinging fruit Roger Stone? Trump really likes the gay radical dirty trixters like Roy Cohn. Is that why Trump is so supportive of the LGBT mentals, Disney and Bud Light?

Manafort? General Flynn? Aren't these they guys that let the Deep State totally roll the Trump Administration in the first few months?

Ceffer says

LOL! If they literally allowed all other candidates to add all their votes up for one guy, they STILL would have lost.

In other words, our Incumbent and sole leader of the party could barely get 50% of the Republican vote in Iowa.

socal2 says

In other words, our Incumbent and sole leader of the party could barely get 50% of the Republican vote in Iowa.

More than what Biden will get in New Hampshire.

AmericanKulak says

$32T in debt!

I was surprised when I checked yesterday: 34!

(but what's a Trillion here or there eh?)

UkraineIsFucked says

More than what Biden will get in New Hampshire.

Since Biden won't be the nominee come November - it doesn't matter.

Democrats, unlike us retarded Republicans know how to play the game and win power and would never nominate a guy that has such high negatives and massive legal baggage as Trump does.

socal2 says

massive legal baggage

You are drinking the MSM koolaid.

These “legal troubles” are BS and everyone except the koolaid drinkers knows it.

Word is that even some in the White House have questioned the wisdom of these prosecutions. Not only do they know it is BS, they know it is only making Trump’s case against the deep state stronger.

If you want to win in November, you need to defeat the deep state. Desantis can’t even come off as sincere in an interview and Haley is part of the deep state as is Christy. Those who oppose the deep state don’t have any choice other than Trump. When will you wake up and smell the swamp?

socal2 says

Since Biden won't be the nominee come November - it doesn't matter.

Democrats aren't that competent. They can't even wage lawfare against Trump w/o fucking it up.

socal2 says

In other words, our Incumbent and sole leader of the party got overwhelming majority of the Republican vote in Iowa. In 2016 general, 2020 general, and 2024 Republican primary.

Fixed it for you!

Don’t hate the voters man!

Did you go to the caucuses in 2016? The deep state party loyalists in 2016 did everything they could to stop Trump from the 2016 Republican nomination and they failed because the people wanted Trump! And he is still the overwhelming favorite despite 8 years of non stop MSM lies and manipulation, a weaponized justice system and a deep state running unchecked. Wise up, the voters have spoken! Opposition to Trump is to deny the will of the voters and to stand with the corrupt media and the globalists who hate you.

"Ratheon won third place" - quote on Twitter.

PeopleUnited says

The deep state party loyalists in 2016 did everything they could to stop Trump from the 2016 Republican nomination and they failed because the people wanted Trump!

No argument there.

Apparently turnout yesterday was down 41% from 2016. Weather certainly played a part, but that is still a dramatic reduction. Alot of the excitement of Trump is gone as he is a known quantity.

Trump won the old Boomer vote in Iowa, but DeSantis won the younger vote.

The Boomer's parting gift of ruining this country will be saddling us with Trump when we could have had a much more Conservative and AFFECTIVE president in DeSantis.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/snow-storm-tuesday-january-16-2024

Trump’s victory speech began unexpectedly gracefully, with the President calling for everyone to come together. He started by thanking Melania, Kari Lake, and then … Vivek Ramaswamy. Late yesterday, after clearly placing fourth, Vivek officially ended his campaign by endorsing the former President. Trump praised the inexperienced, underdog candidate, 38, for running an “amazing” race.

It looks more than ever like Vivek is really running for Vice-President.

MSNBC’s deranged talking heads blamed the fascism slowly settling on our country on … you, the Republican voter, who are “pushing Trump to be more and more extreme”...

You people are practically insurrectionists with all your crazy stolen-election conspiracy theories. ...

Both MSNBC and CNN refused to run Trump’s speech to protect viewers’ safety, the comfortable security of unchallenged thought. It could be journalistic incompetence. Quite easily, in fact. Or, it could be they’re worried Trump will, Kreskin-like, mesmerize their viewers. ...

Governor Haley told supporters Iowa’s results “made this a two-person race.”

Um. Nikki placed third. Never mind.

Turnout was down! The Boomers voted for Trump! Just to screw us, because they are all going to die.

Funny stuff socal, 🤣 it's going to be a long election season for you. Don't squander it by not appearing on the view to blame the Boomers, LOL.

BTW it's been my experience Boomers are still the biggest TDS demographic. Moreover they are the only demographic to want to fist fight you for even mentioning his name. While most other demographics have moved on. They might throw you a look, but they don't feign being uncomfortable and tell you that they are literally shaking.
I think the Liberal Boomer hipsters miss being relevant with the cool kids, 😆

Tenpoundbass says

Turnout was down!

Turnout was down - considerably.

Tenpoundbass says

BTW it's been my experience Boomers are still the biggest TDS demographic.

Not what the exit polls showed in 2020 and last night's Iowa Caucus.

Boomers have been one of the biggest cancers in the US - period.

socal2 says

Trump really digging deep into his bench. That swinging fruit Roger Stone? Trump really likes the gay radical dirty trixters like Roy Cohn. Is that why Trump is so supportive of the LGBT mentals, Disney and Bud Light?

Great. Roy Cohn helped get the Rosenbergs fried and many other good deeds.

Nikki Haley wants more illegals.

We're not going back to the Bush era.

socal2 says

Since Biden won't be the nominee come November - it doesn't matter.

I believe this as well.

Dems are going to pivot to abortion to win the wine aunts back, and many of the wine aunts are in love with Ham Ass right now because PBS and MSNBC told them so.

Stretchin' Gretchen or Big Mike, maybe Newsome. That's who I think.

But I'm not sure it's going to work.

socal2 says

Boomers have been one of the biggest cancers in the US - period.

Congrats! You posted something I actually agree on. I even Liked your comment.

Broken clock and all, I suppose.

AmericanKulak says

Nikki Haley wants more illegals.

She does?

Johnson County ran out of last minute party switch ballots, but had enough to allow enough DEMOCRATS to vote for Haley.
CBS (!) covered this:
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1747367740304728554?s=20

Eric Holder says

She does?

original link
She's doing the old "Act Hardline in the Primary, revert to soft Demlight position later"

Hitler is informed Trump wins Iowa caucus

https://youtu.be/1Rs40n2Bzb4?si=9l5ybovcfRW3Qisx

AmericanKulak says

Eric Holder says

She does?

Bitch.

socal2 says

Apparently turnout yesterday was down 41% from 2016. Weather certainly played a part, but that is still a dramatic reduction. Alot of the excitement of Trump is gone

The weather did not dampen the spirits of Trump Republicans in Iowa one bit! He had more votes in 2024 than he did in 2016.

And in 2020 he got more popular nationwide votes than any Republican in American history .
The BS prosecutions are driving more voters excitement than ever before. I expect that Trump will have so much more energy during the general election run up that Biden will be forced to Actually campaign!

PeopleUnited says

And in 2020 he got more popular nationwide votes than any Republican in American history .

This fact keeps getting dodged. That and the hundreds of thousands of votes in PA, WI, etc. each logged in the succeeding days, just enough to get outside the margin of mandatory recount.

PeopleUnited says

The weather did not dampen the spirits of Trump Republicans in Iowa one bit! He had more votes in 2024 than he did in 2016.

And in 2020 he got more popular nationwide votes than any Republican in American history .
The BS prosecutions are driving more voters excitement than ever before. I expect that Trump will have so much more energy during the general election run up that Biden will be forced to Actually campaign!

There were 13 candidates at the Iowa Caucus in 2016! Trump is now the incumbent and leader of the GOP. Trump SHOULD be winning over 50% of the vote in the primaries. Trump got his preferred RNC chair elected (Ronna) and has all of the establishment Rinos like Fox News, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio all falling in line. He's got the neocon support wrapped up too with Tom Cotton and Steve Scalise.

And why do people keep pointing to the 2020 total numbers when EVERYONE had record turnout for this COVID election with mail in ballots?

The Democrats still found a way (legal or otherwise) to get more votes than Trump in 2020.

I guarantee you that having Trump on the ticket is going to mobilize millions of apathetic Democrats to vote against him and millions of Never Trumpers to stay at home.

If Trump spent the last 3 years building up a significant ground game in the battleground states and been busy hiring lawyers to challenge existing voting laws, I would be more optimistic. But as it stands now, I think we are on track to lose by even a larger margin than we did in 2020 because Biden isn't running and the Democrats will run circles around us.

socal2 says

I guarantee you that having Trump on the ticket is going to mobilize millions of apathetic Democrats to vote against him and millions of Never Trumpers to stay at home.

The Republican Party grew in 2016-2020 when apathetic and unmotivated working class people who never had a candidate to get excited about finally had their long awaited champion in Trump. If he loses in 2024 it will be shananigans from Dems and never trumper deep state globalists. You seem to be sounding more like them every day.

Booger says

Hitler is informed Trump wins Iowa caucus

https://youtu.be/1Rs40n2Bzb4?si=9l5ybovcfRW3Qisx

Trump/Fegelein 2024

AmericanKulak says

This fact keeps getting dodged. That and the hundreds of thousands of votes in PA, WI, etc. each logged in the succeeding days, just enough to get outside the margin of mandatory recount.

Who cares? Wasn't enough to be outside the margin of Democrat cheating.

We need a candidate that doesn't have astronomical negatives who can win outside the margin of voter fraud......not to mention a candidate that is not surrounded by retarded grifter attorneys that have no clue how to play the game and end up getting their own asses indicted for lying.

PeopleUnited says

The Republican Party grew in 2016-2020

We grew the party? Then why did we lose the House, Senate and so many State Governorships and State Legislatures during Trump's term?

Republicans had 33 Governorships in 2016 to the Democrats 16. Now Republicans only have 27 Governorships to the Democrats 23.

Republicans had majorities in the House of Representatives since 2012 and lost it massively during Trump's first mid-term election in 2018. We only won it back by a few seats during the "Red Wave" election of 2022 which was a total dud where we lost the Senate.

Republicans had a whopping 10 seat majority in the Senate before Trump's 2016 election.......only for that to erode to Democrat majority in 2022 thanks to Trump weak Senate picks in PA, Georgia and AZ.

Are we going to blame all of these Republican state, local and Federal election loss on voter fraud?

socal2 says

Republicans had a whopping 10 seat majority in the Senate before Trump's 2016 election.......only for that to erode to Democrat majority in 2022 thanks to Trump weak Senate picks in PA, Georgia and AZ.

Yeah. Fucking globalist RINOs.

We are in the process - one way or another - of cleaning house. All political transitions are like that.

Be glad we are doing this, even if we have to break more than a few eggs to make a new omlette.

Whereas the Dem elites are bottling up.the same populist housecleaning on their side. So when that pops it be like the French and Russian revolutions were. It will be a real mess.

THEN there is the voter fraud. Which is concentrated in urban areas anyway.

UkraineIsFucked says

Yeah. Fucking globalist RINOs.

We are in the process - one way or another - of cleaning house. All political transitions are like that.

Ha! Yet Trump has got Miss Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio leading the charge of cleaning house of RINOS? Can you get more establishment or globalist than those two?

You guys are a joke!

Look - I will still vote for Trump over ANY Democrat this year. But I am not going to totally debase myself by defending the indefensible or inverting reality.

socal2 says

Yet Trump has got Miss Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio leading the charge of cleaning house of RINOS?

No. That is just more bullshit you dreamed up.

The base is doing the housecleaning.

Quit pretending to be a conservative.

Exactly this is a grass roots movement. There are more registered Republicans now than just a few years ago. Registered membership of the Republican Party is growing, and it ain’t because of miss Lindsey or Desanctamonius. And it certainly isn’t because of faux conservatives like our friend here who doesn’t know which horse has been carrying the load this past 9 years.

Congrats @Tenpoundbass !
Trump won fair and square. I am not supporting him, But the process needs to be fair and democracy needs to win.

If Trump is American's choice he should win. After victory he should not overstep on constitution.

socal2 says

Democrats, unlike us retarded Republicans know how to play the game and win power and would never nominate a guy that has such high negatives and massive legal baggage as Trump does.

Republicans who think Biden doesn't have "massive legal baggage" are retarded. Same people that think Russia was the aggressor in Ukraine. Hope them Republicans figure it out before Biden is allowed to steal another election.

socal2 says

But I am not going to totally debase myself by defending the indefensible or inverting reality.

What's the worst thing Trump did to you?