Yet another illegal protected by "sanctuary" policy murders another US citizen
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2019 Mar 20, 9:51pm 7,155 views 41 comments
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marcus
2019 Mar 22, 7:04am
marcus
2019 Mar 22, 7:04am
d6rB says
IF all Irish immigrants had been denied entry because of a few murderous Irish that had come earlier, then neither Patrick nor I would be here.
These things are not as simple as you want to make them.
d6rB says
Which laws ? The ones that say all illegals need to be deported ? The ones that say hiring illegals is a serious crime ?
Non-enforcement of immigration laws has caused this woman's death.
IF all Irish immigrants had been denied entry because of a few murderous Irish that had come earlier, then neither Patrick nor I would be here.
These things are not as simple as you want to make them.
d6rB says
Idiots who do not enforce these laws are indirectly responsible for her death.
Which laws ? The ones that say all illegals need to be deported ? The ones that say hiring illegals is a serious crime ?
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AD
2019 Mar 22, 7:23am
AD
2019 Mar 22, 7:23am
marcus says
It likely has to do with the environment of enforcing the immigration laws. A lax environment will create a greater risk that this type of murder by the illegal immigrant will occur.
Besides that, the enforcement is ineffective if nearly everyone crossing the border is considered an asylum seeker and allowed to stay within the USA awaiting their asylum hearing.
Which laws ? The ones that say all illegals need to be deported ?
It likely has to do with the environment of enforcing the immigration laws. A lax environment will create a greater risk that this type of murder by the illegal immigrant will occur.
Besides that, the enforcement is ineffective if nearly everyone crossing the border is considered an asylum seeker and allowed to stay within the USA awaiting their asylum hearing.
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Bd6r
2019 Mar 22, 9:07am
Bd6r
2019 Mar 22, 9:07am
marcus says
Irish came legally, without breaking laws during entry. You are again confusing legal vs. illegal immigration.
marcus says
Both. Lock up those who do not enforce deportation of illegals, and those who hire them (such as chairmen of food packaging companies and builders). Fine those who hire illegals at $100 K per each illegal employed. Make CEO's personally criminally responsible for hiring illegals.
IF all Irish immigrants had been denied entry because of a few murderous Irish that had come earlier, then neither Patrick nor I would be here.
Irish came legally, without breaking laws during entry. You are again confusing legal vs. illegal immigration.
marcus says
Which laws ? The ones that say all illegals need to be deported ? The ones that say hiring illegals is a serious crime ?
Both. Lock up those who do not enforce deportation of illegals, and those who hire them (such as chairmen of food packaging companies and builders). Fine those who hire illegals at $100 K per each illegal employed. Make CEO's personally criminally responsible for hiring illegals.
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WillPowers
2019 Mar 22, 8:49pm
WillPowers
2019 Mar 22, 8:49pm
WineHorror1 says
Sorry, I'm a very excitable person, although I can look at myself objectively and see my faults. I don't always have human interactions in perspective, so I take it you were just asking him and not provoking him.
Again my apologies. I was out of line.
Calm down
Sorry, I'm a very excitable person, although I can look at myself objectively and see my faults. I don't always have human interactions in perspective, so I take it you were just asking him and not provoking him.
Again my apologies. I was out of line.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 22, 9:23pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 22, 9:23pm
marcus says
The Irish also came at a time when there was no welfare state of any kind.
The Irish weren't murdering anybody in the US blindly. There were a few incidents, and even some WW1 sabotage, but most of those were reported by other Irishmen. Same with Italian Anarchists and Jewish Communists (the Rosenbergs were turned in by a cousin and hounded by the legendary McCarthy Staffer Roy Cohn, a mentor of Donald Trump)
The attitude was to become an American.
My Great Grandfather WAS an illegal, a Cooper who jumped ship in the 1890s, because he found out that Americans made a shitton more than he made working for the Hannover Lines ship he was employed on. BUT, he paid a fine of several months wages to become legal, and became as militant an American as he was an super-Anticlerical Protestant. Not a Muslim from Pakistan who believed in Sharia, encouraged to stay 'authentic' by society at large like today.
I don't remember all the details but I believe he had to pay Federal AND NYC fines, one because his kids were enrolled in public school and he was required to pay NYC back. Imagine NYC doing that today.
IF all Irish immigrants had been denied entry because of a few murderous Irish that had come earlier, then neither Patrick nor I would be here.
The Irish also came at a time when there was no welfare state of any kind.
The Irish weren't murdering anybody in the US blindly. There were a few incidents, and even some WW1 sabotage, but most of those were reported by other Irishmen. Same with Italian Anarchists and Jewish Communists (the Rosenbergs were turned in by a cousin and hounded by the legendary McCarthy Staffer Roy Cohn, a mentor of Donald Trump)
The attitude was to become an American.
My Great Grandfather WAS an illegal, a Cooper who jumped ship in the 1890s, because he found out that Americans made a shitton more than he made working for the Hannover Lines ship he was employed on. BUT, he paid a fine of several months wages to become legal, and became as militant an American as he was an super-Anticlerical Protestant. Not a Muslim from Pakistan who believed in Sharia, encouraged to stay 'authentic' by society at large like today.
I don't remember all the details but I believe he had to pay Federal AND NYC fines, one because his kids were enrolled in public school and he was required to pay NYC back. Imagine NYC doing that today.
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mell
2019 Mar 22, 9:25pm
marcus says
That's fine then compromise and throw those out that commit a crime - instantly. Lengthy criminal record - nuff said. For each two kicked out they can let one so-far peaceful aspiring new immigrant in.
IF all Irish immigrants had been denied entry because of a few murderous Irish that had come earlier, then neither Patrick nor I would be here.
That's fine then compromise and throw those out that commit a crime - instantly. Lengthy criminal record - nuff said. For each two kicked out they can let one so-far peaceful aspiring new immigrant in.
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marcus
2019 Mar 22, 9:59pm
marcus
2019 Mar 22, 9:59pm
d6rB says
I wasn't confusing it.
The point still holds, even if you can't see it.
Let me try to help. Would an argument of stopping legal Irish immigration becasue of past Irish immigrant murderers ever been made ? I know, it probably was. But I don't think it holds much water.
You are again confusing legal vs. illegal immigration
I wasn't confusing it.
The point still holds, even if you can't see it.
Let me try to help. Would an argument of stopping legal Irish immigration becasue of past Irish immigrant murderers ever been made ? I know, it probably was. But I don't think it holds much water.
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CBOEtrader
2019 Mar 22, 10:40pm
CBOEtrader
2019 Mar 22, 10:40pm
marcus says
Certainly seems like your points confused legal vs illegal. If you didn't then your logic is weak af
Try this, either directly respond to a point or make a point of your own w/o the purposeful ambiguity
The point still holds, even if you can't see it.
Certainly seems like your points confused legal vs illegal. If you didn't then your logic is weak af
Try this, either directly respond to a point or make a point of your own w/o the purposeful ambiguity
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AD
2019 Mar 23, 12:58am
AD
2019 Mar 23, 12:58am
Cboe, dont count on Marcus doing that. He is a master of not only TDS but also deception.
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PeopleUnited
2019 Mar 23, 5:47am
PeopleUnited
2019 Mar 23, 5:47am
AD says
Let's be honest. Replace the word "master" above with the word victim and then the statement is accurate. People with TDS suffer from deception of self, reinforced by MSM and the narrative.
Cboe, dont count on Marcus doing that. He is a master of not only TDS but also deception.
Let's be honest. Replace the word "master" above with the word victim and then the statement is accurate. People with TDS suffer from deception of self, reinforced by MSM and the narrative.
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CBOEtrader
2019 Mar 23, 6:21am
CBOEtrader
2019 Mar 23, 6:21am
marcus says
This argument had never been made for any group. You fake news assumptions seem to be at the core of why you arent on the same page as others in this forum.
Trump has been very clear his policy is to increase legal immigration based on the candidates value to our country.
@Marcus is either lying or allowing himself to believe a lie which is repeating. Unclear
Would an argument of stopping legal Irish immigration becasue of past Irish immigrant murderers ever been made ?
This argument had never been made for any group. You fake news assumptions seem to be at the core of why you arent on the same page as others in this forum.
Trump has been very clear his policy is to increase legal immigration based on the candidates value to our country.
@Marcus is either lying or allowing himself to believe a lie which is repeating. Unclear
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Bd6r
2019 Mar 23, 7:44am
Bd6r
2019 Mar 23, 7:44am
marcus says
You are moving goal posts.
Irish came legally. Some of them were murderers, most not. Legal immigrants who commit crimes should be incarcerated and then deported. According to this reasonable standard, Patrick would still be here.
Illegals are here illegally. Some of them are murderers, most not. All of them are breaking laws by their presence here and should be deported. This has no bearing on legal immigration.
Let me try to help. Would an argument of stopping legal Irish immigration becasue of past Irish immigrant murderers ever been made ? I know, it probably was. But I don't think it holds much water.
You are moving goal posts.
Irish came legally. Some of them were murderers, most not. Legal immigrants who commit crimes should be incarcerated and then deported. According to this reasonable standard, Patrick would still be here.
Illegals are here illegally. Some of them are murderers, most not. All of them are breaking laws by their presence here and should be deported. This has no bearing on legal immigration.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Oct 13, 2:18pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Oct 13, 2:18pm
6rdB says
Yep, there was no welfare during the classic immigration period. You worked or you starved the moment you got off the boat.
You are moving goal posts.
Irish came legally. Some of them were murderers, most not. Legal immigrants who commit crimes should be incarcerated and then deported. According to this reasonable standard, Patrick would still be here.
Illegals are here illegally. Some of them are murderers, most not. All of them are breaking laws by their presence here and should be deported. This has no bearing on legal immigration.
Yep, there was no welfare during the classic immigration period. You worked or you starved the moment you got off the boat.
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Patrick
2019 Oct 13, 2:42pm
Patrick
2019 Oct 13, 2:42pm
Anyway, all my ancestors came here legally and assimilated quickly.
That's all I would ask of immigrants today.
1. Don't break the law getting here.
2. Put America above all other loyalties.
That's all I would ask of immigrants today.
1. Don't break the law getting here.
2. Put America above all other loyalties.
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krc
2019 Oct 13, 8:43pm
I am opposed to dual citizenship as well. Either US or nothing else - give up US citizenship if you want to get UK, etc.... Dual citizenship just allows gaming of the system for the well off.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Oct 13, 9:50pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Oct 13, 9:50pm
Patrick says
This used to be normal, every country demands that.
Anyway, all my ancestors came here legally and assimilated quickly.
That's all I would ask of immigrants today.
1. Don't break the law getting here.
2. Put America above all other loyalties.
This used to be normal, every country demands that.
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