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British have been teaching people in south that they are different from north for 100+ years. And these differences still drive people today.
When the British arrived, the south and the north of the sub-continent had different countries. The people living on the sub-continent obviously saw themselves as different from each other.
If you think Indira Ghandi was corrupt for causing conflict
indc saysBritish have been teaching people in south that they are different from north for 100+ years. And these differences still drive people today.
When the British arrived, the south and the north of the sub-continent had different countries. The people living on the sub-continent obviously saw themselves as different from each other. It's a good thing the British did not try to wipe out that regional difference like Chinese and Russians did in their respective imperial expansion. Britain itself is better off to have retained the identity to leave EU, and the Scots to have retained the identity to secede from the UK. Regional self-government makes for more responsive government than imperial rule. If you think Indira Ghandi was corrupt for causing conflict to win votes, what do you think of Modi bombing Pakistan on the eve of the most recent election to win votes?
Reality saysWhen the British arrived, the south and the north of the sub-continent had different countries. The people living on the sub-continent obviously saw themselves as different from each other.
This is what I'm trying to discern, listening to members of various South Asian diasporas vis a vis ...
Reality saysIf you think Indira Ghandi was corrupt for causing conflict
a corrupt matriarchy and her numerous screwups?
Sure, I'm certain that ppl in modern times are trying to make a difference and mend fences but I can't buy into this idea that India was originally united, in terms of both race & culture, and it was only the British who did the dastardly deeds when it's clear that both Bahrain and Malaysia are better off, in terms of tolerance & general cohesiveness, over their re...
Do you have any proof that south and north were 2 different countries or kingdoms? I just posted India's 1760 map on other thread did you even bother to check it? why is that important because that is when british started to visit india and start foothold in bengal.
What do you mean indira gandhi caused conflict. Are you a pakistani talking about 1971 war?
Pakistan is a breeding ground for terrorists. They sent out a terrorist and killed 44 soldiers with a car bomb.. Modi decided to retaliate and kill terrorists in their training camps so that they will not dare to attack again.
USA kills terrorists half way around the world. India should not defends its own borders.
Dont worry Modi will find a solution for Kashmir by clearing pakis out of gilgit baltistan.
You want proof that India is same race and culture: You ask me about it.
There are 12 rivers in India from north to south. Every year 1 river is celebrated in 12 year cycle. If the cultures are different why would one region respect others?
There was a religious reformer atleast in 500 BC. He setup religious places of knowledge in 4 corners of present day India. And other smaller religious places called peeta in 26 places some of them are in present day pakistan and bangladesh.
indc saysDo you have any proof that south and north were 2 different countries or kingdoms? I just posted India's 1760 map on other thread did you even bother to check it? why is that important because that is when british started to visit india and start foothold in bengal.
I'm not the least bit interested in any map provided by "epic"-worshiping nationalistic liars like you. There are plenty reliable historical maps of the sub-continent on the internet. Maps of all countries change over time. The British East India Company was formed on December 31st, 1600. There were far more than two countries on the Indian sub-continent in 1601 and in 1760.
What do you mean indira gandhi caused conflict. Are you a pakistani talking about 1971 war?
No. I was talking about the conflict that you said she caused within India itself. And no, I'm not from th...
indc saysYou want proof that India is same race and culture: You ask me about it.
There are 12 rivers in India from north to south. Every year 1 river is celebrated in 12 year cycle. If the cultures are different why would one region respect others?
There was a religious reformer atleast in 500 BC. He setup religious places of knowledge in 4 corners of present day India. And other smaller religious places called peeta in 26 places some of them are in present day pakistan and bangladesh.
Such revanchism is proof that most of the world's brown countries, even their alleged intellectuals, are living in the pre-1648Westphalian world (i.e. intellectually pre-modern, literally atavistic). Obviously, the manufactured claim you are copying is essentially laying territorial claims to all of Pakistan and Bangladesh (either that, or the prophets thousands of years ago already foresaw precisely the ...
So you are another of those "shit brained" liberals who dont have any logic. Did you hold placards outside white house asking US govt not to kill osama?
Liberals in India are worst They held placards and asked govt to not to kill terrorists arrested in India.
India is no ones bitch anymore.
Around 900AD ghazwa-e-hind was declared and india was attacked troops 4 different kingdom came together and beat the troops so bad that caliphate disintegrated.
Which is not taught in any history book, not even in India.
Another comment with no logic or pure lies. What do you mean recent invention.
The celebrations were happening atleast for 5000 yrs with recorded history. Celtics can claim if they were still doing that even today. They ran away because of other tribes. Indians did it even under muslim and british rule.
pakistan, bangladesh were carved out of "british india".
Nepal and tibet had treaties with british India.
After british left India did not occupy nepal. But China occupied tibet.
Its high time that people outside India stop tell it how to behave.
No one calls tiammen square massacre conflict it is pure oppression of ones citizens.
Is europe considered 1 race? They are all caucasoids I think.
No one will say all of India is one race.
indc saysSo you are another of those "shit brained" liberals who dont have any logic. Did you hold placards outside white house asking US govt not to kill osama?
Liberals in India are worst They held placards and asked govt to not to kill terrorists arrested in India.
Osama who? Why would someone who died in a cave of likely kidney failure in 2001-2002 matter at all a decade later?
India is no ones bitch anymore.
Around 900AD ghazwa-e-hind was declared and india was attacked troops 4 different kingdom came together and beat the troops so bad that caliphate disintegrated.
Which is not taught in any history book, not even in India.
hmm, India was no one's bitch anymore because of some story from 900AD? Have you heard of the British India Company founded in 1600 and the British Raj after that? I suppose it is easy to fool the average IQ=...
Jesus. 44 comments on India as a topic. Did wet bulb get mentioned? How about Guam? Either way, I'm sure it's all Trump's fault.
indc saysOk I got new definition of lying now.
Except that is part of the old definition of lying. But I can see how someone who just trolls thinks he can re-invent the dictionary.
indc saysAnother myth spread by british. Caste is not a term from india. British try to impose it on India. There were different group of people divided according to their profession. No one considered one superior to other which was what castism means. British decided who were upper caste and who were lower caste. And people had to accept their terminology because that was the only way they could secure jobs. And stupid indian governments try to follow the same even after independence.
wow! So much bullshit!
Brits used it, sure. But it was already in place long before they got there.
Just like Indians d...
indc saysYou may think I am bulshitting about Caste.
You are bullshitting that they were a construct of the Brits.
But once caught, you tried to avoid that. Just like you totally avoided the uncivilized open defecation issue.
Only if you tell it its history. If someone else tells it, its a story?
That his-story I was explaining to Rin because he says India was always conquered by outsider. And I wanted to point out the lies in that narrative.
You talk about low IQ and point out that EIC formed in 1600 and immediately started occupying the world...
British became a political power in 1757 when they defeated the bengal kings.
If osama was dead in 2002, why were 6trillion $ of tax-payer money mine and your spent hunting him. And only before obama was done with his presidency he was killed miraculously.
I never deny open defacation is a problem. But you cannot provide proper toilets to everyone, and the corrupt governments never do it.
The present prime minister is much better he helped build 40million toilets. It will take sometime and push from government to fix the problem. Then people like Reality come in and say you hindu nationalist party war mongerer why dont you have a status quo of a slave as before.
indc saysI never deny open defacation is a problem. But you cannot provide proper toilets to everyone, and the corrupt governments never do it.
The present prime minister is much better he helped build 40million toilets. It will take sometime and push from government to fix the problem. Then people like Reality come in and say you hindu nationalist party war mongerer why dont you have a status quo of a slave as before.
After the British left the sub-continent, the Hindustanis and the Pakistanis have turned the sub-continent into sh*t under the banners of socialism and nationalism. When Hindustan finally started economic reforms in the 1990's, it's a replay of Da Gama and British EIC arriving at the seaports, and the native Hindustanis flocking to trade with the foreign sea-borne merchants, breaking free from the continental land-based monopolists (aka the Hindustani government bureaucrats t...
All your comments are lies or half truths but I am bored with replying to each one of them. So here is a video
Here is its map durig 2 different but important kingdoms.
indc saysAll your comments are lies or half truths but I am bored with replying to each one of them. So here is a video
I'm not going to contribute to view count of videos that you send when you are too lazy to present your arguments.
indc saysHere is its map durig 2 different but important kingdoms.
260BC and 400AD maps? What the heck do they have anything to do with the reality on the ground circa 1600-1900AD? For all we know, Mongols and their Timurid successor state armies could have killed off entire populations on that piece of land around 1200-1500AD. In case it's not obvious on that 1000AD map, the turks were still thousands of miles away from Asia-Minor Peninsular (modern Turkey) . . . so those ancient maps don't prove anything: different time, different people, different culture.
Rin say India is always a bitch
indc saysRin say India is always a bitch
For a person who's only contributed a tidbit here & there, I'm being rather focused upon, as if I'm the 80%.
BTW, I'd told my Parsi friend to listen to the above, which he did. Here's the thing, his grandparents were Zoroastrians and thus, don't have anything vested in the so-called Islamic Golden Age, which he and others believe, never existed. Islamic scholasticism was the theft of Persia and Byzantine.
Plus, the story of Alexander is kinda lame in the sense that Alexander's armies which went into today's Pakistan/India area were from middle Persia and not Greece/Macedonia, at that point in time. So sure, it was the last expedition of a person who'd spent much of his resources, defeating Darius. And like anyone who'd overextended himself, he lost everything on his way to Babylon, through the southern Iranian deserts but so what? ... ma...
Ok lets make a deal you watch the video and make a comment on what you think of it. I promise I will reply to everyone of your comments?
I too dont care about maps but how do you explain that to people who dont even know abcs of other civilization. We need to debunk their narratives through their own lenses.
Indian "culture" spread all the way from west asia to southeast-asia and far-east asia. And there is no record of anyone forcing it on them.
But people like Rin say India is always a bitch. People of sword only understand the meaning of sword. And think whole world will respect and listen to only it.
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