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2017 Sep 15, 11:17am   6,193 views  31 comments

by MisdemeanorRebel   ➕follow (12)   💰tip   ignore  

It's so funny nobody figures out what's going on over DACA.

Legislatures is trying to run down the clock to the midterms and do nothing.
Trump gets rid of Obama's Executive Order, forcing the legislature to make deal(s) just to keep the status quo on DACA.
Puts GOPe in shitty position of having to pass DACA against the base's will, House/Senate Dems also have fire under ass from Tech Oligarchs like Amazon as well as their "Hate Domestic Poor, Love Foreign Poor" base of snooty professionals to get 'something passed'.
Trump gets something he wants for signing DACA, which will end up being far less generous than what Napolitano's crafted memo provided, probably temporary and/or pathway, not an outright amnesty for all "Dreamers".

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10   joeyjojojunior   2017 Sep 17, 12:54pm  

Yep--I will happily criticize Obama on any number of fronts. Free trade. Civil Rights. Transparency. He ended up being too much like a Republican in several areas.

Many of my kind DIDN'T vote for Clinton which is why Trump was elected. So you're actually lucky that you're wrong.
11   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Sep 17, 1:47pm  

Democrats 1990s: "It's perfectly acceptable and necessary for the Rule of Law to send armed men in the wee hours of night to seize a child from it's Mother and Extended Family and return him to the Impoverished Human Rights Abusing Dictatorship they fled from. We're a Nation of Laws"
Democrats 2010s: "It's perfectly unacceptable not to give automatic citizenship to anybody who crossed the border with their parents under 18. They can't go back to their home country, like the Republic of South Korea or Republic of Mexico. We're a nation of immigrants, Damn the Law!"

12   mell   2017 Sep 17, 1:55pm  

TwoScoopsMcGee says
1990s: "It's perfectly acceptable and necessary for the Rule of Law to send armed men in the wee hours of night to seize a child from it's Mother and Extended Family and return him to an Impoverished Dictatorship. We're a Nation of Laws"
2010s: "It's absolutely unacceptable not to give automatic citizienship to anybody who crossed the border with their parents who is under 18. Deportation is Tyranny! Laws be damned!"


Politicians are very good at sniffing out trends in the corporate kleptocracy such as the old "fossil" money being overtaken by the new "internet age" money and so they change their tunes to the beats of the modern kleptocracy (their livelihood on taxpayer money depends on it) which basically demands the dissolution of countries and their borders. Never has the divide between politicians plus their media lackeys and working class bigger than today, hence Trump's stunning election win.
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Sep 17, 2:17pm  

mell says
Politicians are very good at sniffing out trends in the corporate kleptocracy such as the old "fossil" money being overtaken by the new "internet age" money and so they change their tunes to the beats of the modern kleptocracy (their livelihood on taxpayer money depends on it) which basically demands the dissolution of countries and their borders. Never has the divide between politicians plus their media lackeys and working class bigger than today, hence Trump's stunning election win.


Yup. Bashing the Fake News is also paying huge dividends. We all know Hillary would be standing with Google; hell, if Hillary was elected the Google memo would probably have never been written or shared, and the Evergreen State SJWs would probably be White House invitees.

Hey, who co-sponsored this Bill, saying it was the sense of Congress that Elian Gonzales had to be deported ("Re-united with his Father") to Castro's Cuba?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/106/hconres240/details
Nancy Pelosi was against Dreamers before she was in favor of them.
17   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Dec 26, 12:23pm  

However Congress decides to deal with Dreamers, it should be based on the real demographics of the DACA populace, not the glamorized image typically presented by the media.

Watching television reports concerning Dreamers, one would think that the DACA program applied only to college-educated immigrants who were just a few years old when their parents brought them into the country illegally. We are led to believe that most are so fully Americanized that they would now have trouble speaking their native language and are all but ignorant of their birth countries’ cultural norms. Thus, we are supposed to believe, returning them to their native lands would be a cruel hardship.

In fact, many DACA beneficiaries came here as teenagers
. All were eligible for the program as long as they entered the U.S. before their 16th birthday. By that time, there is no doubt that they spoke the language of their native countries fluently and knew their culture intimately.

DACA had no requirement of English fluency,
as evidenced by the application form that had a space to list the translator used to complete the form. The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that “perhaps 24 percent of the DACA-eligible population fall into the functionally illiterate category and another 46 percent have only ‘basic’ English ability.”

Unfortunately, many Dreamers are poorly educated. Only 49 percent of DACA beneficiaries have a high school education, even though a majority are now adults. And while military service could also qualify an illegal alien for DACA, out of the current 690,000 DACA beneficiaries, only 900 are serving in the military.

The Obama administration did not check the background of each DACA beneficiary, despite a requirement that they have no felony convictions and pose no threat to national security. Only a few randomly selected DACA applicants were ever actually vetted.

This may explain why, by August this year, more than 2,100 DACA beneficiaries had had their eligibility pulled because of criminal convictions and gang affiliation. Even if a random background investigation produced substantial evidence that an illegal alien might have committed multiple crimes, the alien would still be eligible for DACA if he wasn’t convicted.

Thus, it seems that a significant percentage of DACA beneficiaries have serious limitations in their education, work experience and English fluency. What’s the likelihood that they’ll be able to function in American society without being substantial burdens to U.S. taxpayers?

Without changing the sponsorship rules, any congressional amnesty bill providing citizenship could significantly increase the number of illegal aliens who will benefit beyond the immediate DACA beneficiaries. Giving lawful status to Dreamers will allow them and their families to profit from illegal conduct.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/25/daca-demographics-show-less-ideal-dreamers-media-i/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
19   mell   2017 Dec 26, 6:27pm  

zzyzzx says


Who would not agree with this? Every year millions apply for legal residency and start the long path of fees, visas and interviews. Few eventually make it to citizenship, many at least to Greencard status. Who in their right mind would argue that millions who disobeyed that process suddenly get rewarded and cut in line in front of all the legal "suckers"?! Only in a twisted leftoid world.
20   zzyzzx   2018 Jan 9, 11:32am  

Democrats admit it's all about getting votes:
28   bob2356   2018 Mar 5, 7:10pm  

Most people give up picture books by age 7 or do; Not on patnet apparently.
29   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 5, 8:15pm  

Well, there goes March 5th, and the Democrats didn't come to the table.

They just abandoned their DACA dreamers.

No surprise, they generally abandon their Black and Poor voters in all the time between Election Seasons.

Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, all shining examples of Democratic Care and Concern for their critical minority segment.
31   RWSGFY   2019 Jan 4, 1:19pm  

Booger says


The guy on the left deserves a citizenship for sure. I mean, the guy on the right doesn't use his anymore, so the net number of citizens will remain the same, m-kay?

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