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jazz music says

www.youtube.com/embed/TNDZnjMV8vY

I don't think there's any question that Sessions views Marijuana as a gateway drug. If that's an issue for you, then you have a legitimate gripe. However, his approach seems to be an attempt to curb the drug problem more universally, and I can't imagine anyone disagreeing there is a significant problem currently. Most of us hear of it in ancillary reports....yet politicians are inundated with requests for help from hundreds of thousands of grieving parents and loved ones who have lost family members in historic proportions to drugs. Are you suggesting his motive is otherwise?

It's a classic straw man argument to talk about the guy who has cancer and is only able to cope by smoking marijuana. If the Trump administration is fighting against that scenario, then I 100% agree that that is wrong. However, I just might think that their scope is illegal use of drugs, illegal drug dealing, etc.

just any guy says

jazz music says

Do you have a point, or are you just trying to be difficult?

My point is that I can handle an anti-drug agenda because I don't do drugs, so I don't care. Do you have another topic, besides "oh no, Jeff Sessions might be tough on drug users", that makes you so butt-hurt that you feel Trump deserves to be investigated of anything and everything?

You perceive me as being difficult because I call bullshit.

How about asset forfeiture? How about cops being able to search your vehicle for any reason and then take it.

joeyjojojunior says

How about asset forfeiture? How about cops being able to search your vehicle for any reason and then take it.

What about it? Please provide evidence that he's pushing for something draconian here. I'm genuinely interested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2017/01/19/jeff-sessions-on-marijuana-and-civil-asset-forfeiture/?utm_term=.3c96d9399ed2

https://fee.org/articles/jeff-sessions-and-the-thuggery-of-asset-forfeiture/

Considering that over 50,000 people died from opioid overdoses last year, I'd say it's time to get kinda ruthless with that sort of drug abuse! Especially since these are a lot of our nation's youth that are dying far too young. Heroin addiction is absolutely rampant, and can ensnare a youth with just one dose.
It's really not funny at all.

Quigley says

Considering that over 50,000 people died from opioid overdoses last year, I'd say it's time to get kinda ruthless with that sort of drug abuse! Especially since these are a lot of our nation's youth that are dying far too young. Heroin addiction is absolutely rampant, and can ensnare a youth with just one dose.

It's really not funny at all.

And you think throwing users in jail is the way to do it?

I think publicly executing sellers is a way to do it.

joeyjojojunior says

Quigley says

Considering that over 50,000 people died from opioid overdoses last year, I'd say it's time to get kinda ruthless with that sort of drug abuse! Especially since these are a lot of our nation's youth that are dying far too young. Heroin addiction is absolutely rampant, and can ensnare a youth with just one dose.


It's really not funny at all.

And you think throwing users in jail is the way to do it?

joeyjojojunior says

And you think throwing users in jail is the way to do it?

Leaving them on the street and letting them continue to deal certainly isn't the right answer. Running away from the problem doesn't make it go away.

just any guy says

Leaving them on the street and letting them continue to deal certainly isn't the right answer. Running away from the problem doesn't make it go away.

How about we try to treat the users?

joeyjojojunior says

How about we try to treat the users?

Definitely, but that's only 1 side of the equation. We have to address both the supply and the demand problem because in many cases it's too late for treatment. I believe harsh punishment for drug dealers is absolutely required. I agree that punishment of users shouldn't be ridiculously harsh as it has been.

joeyjojojunior says

And you think throwing users in jail is the way to do it?

Yes, until they're clean. Combined with a detox program and counseling. These people are sick and are incapable of making the choice to quit on their own. Instead of letting their illness kill them, we should be compassionate and firm.

Trump officially not under investigation. Glad we figured that out

jazz music says

Where is your evidence that this would ever work?

Common sense I suppose. I'm not saying we jail users, and I'm fine trying the Netherlands or Portuguese way of handling them. But I'm also saying that the prevalence of drug dealing puts our youth at risk of just trying heroin and then having their lives ruined, regardless of any treatment option. I'd rather stop the opportunity altogether as much as possible.

Not only will he be exhonerated a near futre president after Trump will pass a populous vote to expunge that record.
History will report it for the witch hunt that it was. He wont be judged as having been investigated by any competent accusers.

It will be just more shit for Obama's legacy. Funny Mr. Blame-O Lame-Obama will get his jest blame, Mr. 0 scandal president. He hasn't been parsed by the Oliver Stone of 2030 yet.

just any guy says

Common sense I suppose. I'm not saying we jail users, and I'm fine trying the Netherlands or Portuguese way of handling them. But I'm also saying that the prevalence of drug dealing puts our youth at risk of just trying heroin and then having their lives ruined, regardless of any treatment option. I'd rather stop the opportunity altogether as much as possible.

If you want to stop the opportunity we should give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. They had opium almost eradicated when we stomped in.

So what new and innovative plan do you have to stop the opportunity? The war on drugs is almost 50 years old and no more successful today than in 1971. If there is demand there will be supply.

There is no way to emulate Portugal's handling of drug use in the US. In Portugal the social, legal, and public health system are closely tied together for treatment for drugs. BTW drug dealing is illegal and drug dealers go to jail in Portugal. .

CBOEtrader says

Trump officially not under investigation. Glad we figured that out

To his lawyer's and Trump's knowledge, they are not under investigation ...

“I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth when I've been crystal clear that the president is not and has not been under investigation,” Sekulow told Wallace later.
“But you don't know that he's not under investigation, right?” Wallace responded.
“You're right, Chris. I cannot read the mind of the special prosecutor,” Sekulow responded.

;)

jazz music says

Sage wisdom from the bible, Psalm 109: 8

Let his days be few; and let another take his office

May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.

May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.

May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.

May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.

Let's put that quote into context with a few verses that define the people about which David opines:

" For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me; They have spoken against me with a lying tongue. They have also surrounded me with words of hatred, And have fought against me without a cause. In return for my love, they attack me, But I am in prayer. They have repaid me evil for good, And hatred for my love.”
‭‭PSALM‬ ‭109:1-5‬ ‭AMP‬‬
http://bible.com/1588/psa.109.1-5.amp

Remind you of anyone?

Here is the best response to this entire Russia-gate mess.

https://patrick.net/1307381/2017-06-19-hodgkinson-s-disease

jazz music says

Yes it reminds me of Republican Kansas House Speaker Mike O’Neal who wrote those verses from Psalm 109:8 in an email about Obama.

Odd that you'd admire this guy's asinine meta-curse so much that you'd attempt to steal it.
Kind of a pansy dodge tho, attributing it to him only after I pointed out the context.

Sessions : lawyered up.

Bannon - unconfirmed rumor from the hill : he physically detained/obstructed two female WH staffers from leaving an area, and is now facing criminal charges.