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61   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 15, 4:50pm  

CBOEtrader says

This is pure nonsense.

Because you say so?

CBOEtrader says

Literally every official opinion disagrees w you.

No, actually even Trump doesn't disagree with me. The only thing he has said is that he didn't give away the intelligence source.

CBOEtrader says

You are aware it was the leaker (not trump) who told the world about Israel intelligence connection. The leaker and perhaps the journalists who spread the info should be indicted.

This wasn't trumps fault. Netanyahu has been one of Trumps most vocal supporters. He also stated very clearly that Israeli/US relations are great.

He has every right to be pissed about the leaker however

OK--so now you are agreeing that Trump told Russia about the Israeli intelligence asset? Because the leaker wouldn't have known if it wasn't in the transcript from the meeting.

lol--so which is it? He didn't tell Russia? Or the leaker heard it in the meeting and told the press?

62   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 4:51pm  

CBOEtrader says

You are aware it was the leaker (not trump) who told the world about Israel intelligence connection. The leaker and perhaps the journalists who spread the info should be indicted.

This wasn't trumps fault. Netanyahu has been one of Trumps most vocal supporters. He also stated very clearly that Israeli/US relations are great.

He has every right to be pissed about the leaker however.

Oh I agree. That was a horribly inappropriate leak to come out. What was even worse was the administrations inability to wave it away. It plagued Trump on his international trip, where he all but confirmed it on live TV, "Wasn't me. I never said Israel." Maybe so Trump, but when your entire team is in chaos, doesn't the captain bare a lot of the blame?

Should have Spicer do another meeting and ask to confiscate people's phones. Get those leakers! Demand loyalty! Make them swear oaths! That's how good leadership works, right?

63   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 4:52pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Or the leaker heard it in the meeting and told the press?

It came across the typed transcript wires of the meeting in the WH. It's in print.
Someday we will even get to read the actual thing. :)

64   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 15, 4:53pm  

Rew says

It came across the typed transcript wires of the meeting in the WH. It's in print.

Someday we will even get to read the actual thing. :)

Of course. It's just funny that CBOE is trying to have it both ways--Trump didn't say it. But the leaker read it in the transcript and is the problem.

65   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 4:56pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Trump didn't say it. But the leaker read it in the transcript and is the problem.

He is saying the leak is most harmful, which I agree with to a degree.

The fact that our president is an incompetent insecure bloviating gas bag, that all you have to do is ego stroke, and you get state secretes ... well ... that seems to be root cause, regardless.

67   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 5:16pm  

White House aides fret over Trump’s Russia probe obsession

“If he didn’t send about 15 tweets that he’s done, he’d be in much better shape than he is right now,” said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University. “I kept thinking he would change from these self-destructive tendencies, but he may be the first president in history who brings himself down because he just can’t help himself.”

68   FortWayne   2017 Jun 15, 5:26pm  

Watch liberals overreact into nothing, it'll be comedy all over again.

69   CBOEtrader   2017 Jun 15, 7:06pm  

Rew says

a major incident of incompetence.

of the leaker and journalists involved, not of trump. This was corroborated by everyone in the room.Rew says

It plagued Trump on his international trip,

No it didnt. This was a MSM lie.Rew says

"Wasn't me. I never said Israel."

Um, exactly. HE DIDNT NAME ISRAEL. That was the specific charge against him. Israel was named by the leaker, not Trump.

joeyjojojunior says

But the leaker read it in the transcript and is the problem.

You are so close to the truth yet your brainwashing keeps you from seeing clearly. YES, the leaker was someone who knew about Israel. Mcmasters stated Trump didnt even know it was Israel until afterwards. He couldnt have told them the source if he wanted to.

Rew says

It's in print.

You pulled this our of your ass. The same place this entire witch hunt came from.

70   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 15, 7:50pm  

CBOEtrader says

You are so close to the truth yet your brainwashing keeps you from seeing clearly. YES, the leaker was someone who knew about Israel. Mcmasters stated Trump didnt even know it was Israel until afterwards. He couldnt have told them the source if he wanted to.

No, I know the truth. Trump knew where the intelligence came from and that's what he told the Russians. Knowing where it came from made it obvious to anyone and everyone (except Trump maybe) which country provided the Intel.

So, do you dispute that there is a summary of the meeting in which Trumps conversation is detailed?

72   anonymous   2017 Jun 15, 7:57pm  

Booger says

Exactly. The drive to remove Trump from office is incredible. Hillary is not even being investigated.

73   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jun 15, 8:07pm  

just any guy says

Exactly. The drive to remove Trump from office is incredible. Hillary is not even being investigated.

Wait until Trump has his Machiavellian moment on all of these idiots when all of this goes no where.
The constituents grows tired of the Liberal grand standing and theatrics. Votes them out, Trump gets his DOJ in order and the Supreme Court in order.
There will be hell Toupée.

74   CBOEtrader   2017 Jun 15, 9:41pm  

joeyjojojunior says

CBOEtrader says

You are so close to the truth yet your brainwashing keeps you from seeing clearly. YES, the leaker was someone who knew about Israel. Mcmasters stated Trump didnt even know it was Israel until afterwards. He couldnt have told them the source if he wanted to.

No, I know the truth. Trump knew where the intelligence came from and that's what he told the Russians. Knowing where it came from made it obvious to anyone and everyone (except Trump maybe) which country provided the Intel.

So, do you dispute that there is a summary of the meeting in which Trumps conversation is detailed?

Of course there is a detailed transcript of everything said. Which means McMaster stating openly that trump not only didn't say Israel but DID NOT KNOW it was Israel is very obviously true. http://nypost.com/2017/05/16/mcmaster-trump-didnt-know-source-of-intel-he-gave-to-russia/

Joey: "I know the truth" while making up your own story. Lol. Yeah the rest of us deal in facts. Please try to do the same.

75   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 11:17pm  

www.youtube.com/embed/V6lgQnZFuKM

(salivating)

"A breathtaking array of prosecutorial talent" Hahaha! So good.

Best part: "They have not given us a formal update or budget ... I am hearing from sources ... more people are clamoring to join this team. They view it as a major public service ... "

Also really nice to hear how we have a bunch of follow the money type investigations going. I'm sure they won't find anything though. :-O (laughing)

FortWayne says

As long as you recognize the pattern of the events there...

It's only just begun and hey, all in under 6 months to get embroiled into investigations settling in for the long haul. These are tireless, distance running bloodhounds, that are about to overturn every leaf they can find, in search of criminal wrongdoing. I hope Trump has washed recently.

76   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 11:25pm  

CBOEtrader says

Which means McMaster stating openly that trump not only didn't say Israel but DID NOT KNOW it was Israel is very obviously true

That's right. Trump had no clue WHAT he was giving to the Russians, but because he was bragging about things he didn't understand, the Russians were easily able to put together which service provided it. Remember almost all of Trump's problems are self inflicted wounds created by what he himself says.

77   Rew   2017 Jun 15, 11:46pm  

Rew says

It came across the typed transcript wires of the meeting in the WH. It's in print.

Someday we will even get to read the actual thing. :)

CBOEtrader says

You pulled this our of your ass. The same place this entire witch hunt came from.

This is the meeting:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html

"The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion."

And right after ... more details came out ... because the CIA and NSA had a fit when they saw what it contained ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.b86557f47832

"Senior White House officials appeared to recognize quickly that Trump had overstepped and moved to contain the potential fallout. Thomas P. Bossert, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, placed calls to the directors of the CIA and the NSA, the services most directly involved in the intelligence-sharing arrangement with the partner.

One of Bossert’s subordinates also called for the problematic portion of Trump’s discussion to be stricken from internal memos and for the full transcript to be limited to a small circle of recipients, efforts to prevent sensitive details from being disseminated further or leaked."

More than anything else to me, when I read that the internal transcripts of the meeting set off our intelligence services to this level, oh boy, did I know how serious Trump screwed up. He has no clue what he is doing.

78   Rew   2017 Jun 16, 12:11am  

CBOEtrader, so do you want to go with "fake news", "but but Hillary", or admit you were wrong?

79   CBOEtrader   2017 Jun 16, 3:56am  

Rew says

the Russians were easily able to put together which service provided it.

You are making up this story. Every person in the room said otherwise. I shouldn't expect any better from you at this point.

Rew says

More than anything else to me, when I read that the internal transcripts of the meeting set off our intelligence services to this level,

This is trumps prerogative as president and again, EVERYONE willing to make a public statement stated the exact opposite. The anonymous critics are the deep state stealing our democratic choices. Its amazing that you see the deeply illegal actions of these proven felons as a good thing. I can guarantee that a good portion of these clowns end up in prison.

You are deeply, deeply brainwashed.

80   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 16, 4:56am  

Rew summed it up pretty well, but nothing you have posted disputes what I'm saying. Trump may not have known which country obtained it, but he still gave away the location of where the intelligence was obtained. That was enough for anybody else to know exactly which intelligence service was responsible.

Nobody in the room said otherwise. They all gave ambiguous statements that didn't rely deny the story.

81   CBOEtrader   2017 Jun 16, 7:13am  

It wouldn't be appropriate to discuss details of a diplomatic meeting such as this. Everyone in the room stated Trump's discussion was prudent.

Israel was leaked to the entire world via the anonymous source. Meaning, 1) the anonymous source is a very high ranking official who is in a ton of trouble for felony leaking and 2) the anonymous source could care less about the value of our relations up w Israel or Russia. 3) the anonymous source leaked for political purposes knowing fools like yourself would eat it up.

You can believe the anonymous voices in your head if you like. no one in the room stated green Martians don't control deep state either. OMG it must be true.

Just wait until trumps AG finds the leakers. Heads will roll.

Stay stupid though, its a good look on you.

82   anonymous   2017 Jun 16, 9:08am  

We have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to disrupt the establishment and "deep state", and the Left is too blinded by their own butt-hurtedness having lost the election to care. This is a classic case of cutting off one's nose to spite their face. The Left-wing media has truly brainwashed their base to a point of such severe detriment. It's sad.

83   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 16, 9:10am  

The left? What is the left doing? Dems have no power to do anything.

The leakers are all part of Trump's administration. Comey is a lifelong Republican.

84   Rew   2017 Jun 16, 11:30am  

CBOEtrader says

It wouldn't be appropriate to discuss details of a diplomatic meeting such as this. Everyone in the room stated Trump's discussion was prudent.

The meeting was transcribed and noted on the internal WH blotter, for meetings just such as these, where WE the US tries to glean knowledge from foreign diplomats. The notes are widlkey published to the White House itself. But, the White House got a rude shock as our President gave away such crucial information, that there was a rush to strike it from the widely facing record, so the damage could be lessened.

That is what happened.

Trump's mouth is the problem. If you don't see that yet, you have some other agenda.

85   Rew   2017 Jun 16, 11:59am  

Preach on Sarah! Preach on!

86   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 16, 7:44pm  

just any guy says

What legislation or executive orders are being considered for all the things you mention?

The appointment of Jeff Sessions as AG

87   anonymous   2017 Jun 16, 7:46pm  

joeyjojojunior says

just any guy says

What legislation or executive orders are being considered for all the things you mention?

The appointment of Jeff Sessions as AG

Ok...small potatoes. What else you got?

88   sagacious1   2017 Jun 16, 8:00pm  

Trump advocates have good reason to be concerned. It's estimated that up to 90% of circulating bank notes contain traces of cocaine. Presumably, from the sale of the illicit drug trade and use. As result, special allowances to the law have been required as these amounts are enough to be detected by dog-sniffing agents. Theoretically, most anyone walking the street could be prosecuted for drug money laundering. The point is, never underestimate the veracity of a tenacious prosecutor who is following the letter of the law. Everyone is guilty of a crime, and an innocent person is simply a crime that hasn't been attached to them yet.

89   Rew   2017 Jun 16, 11:06pm  

sagacious1 says

Trump advocates have good reason to be concerned.

sagacious1 says

The point is, never underestimate the veracity of a tenacious prosecutor who is following the letter of the law.

Couldn't agree more. The team assembled, from what I read, is the type one would assemble to take down a group with broad international business dealings, a web of social connections, and also the type of team that specializes in finding anti-American intent and threats.

I'm not saying they will find any, all, or some of that against the Trump administration. But that is undoubtedly what they are looking for.

To your point: go looking for criminals, likely find criminals. Yes, I would be very concerned.

90   anonymous   2017 Jun 17, 8:43am  

Witch hunt. The establishment is going after anything they can find to get Trump out of office. It's a shame.

91   sagacious1   2017 Jun 17, 9:58am  

The issue is less about the possibility of any criminality discovered, since I feel that's a given. The real issues are: 1.) who will be implicated and to what degree will charges be elevated too. 2.) The perception of this exercise will ultimately have upon the electorate. Clearly it will cement division between Trump supporters and those opposing him.....that's already at play and it will paralyze the administration from carrying out it's agenda. Ultimately though, it runs the risk of many citizens feeling their votes stolen by proxy, and this can be dangerous. Should that occur, civil unrest is almost assured. For anyone seeking to unify the Country and it's people, it's an absolute nightmare scenario.

92   anonymous   2017 Jun 17, 11:24am  

jazz music says

Do you have a point, or are you just trying to be difficult?

My point is that I can handle an anti-drug agenda because I don't do drugs, so I don't care. Do you have another topic, besides "oh no, Jeff Sessions might be tough on drug users", that makes you so butt-hurt that you feel Trump deserves to be investigated of anything and everything?

You perceive me as being difficult because I call bullshit.

93   sagacious1   2017 Jun 17, 11:26am  

jazz music says

www.youtube.com/embed/TNDZnjMV8vY

I don't think there's any question that Sessions views Marijuana as a gateway drug. If that's an issue for you, then you have a legitimate gripe. However, his approach seems to be an attempt to curb the drug problem more universally, and I can't imagine anyone disagreeing there is a significant problem currently. Most of us hear of it in ancillary reports....yet politicians are inundated with requests for help from hundreds of thousands of grieving parents and loved ones who have lost family members in historic proportions to drugs. Are you suggesting his motive is otherwise?

94   anonymous   2017 Jun 17, 11:33am  

It's a classic straw man argument to talk about the guy who has cancer and is only able to cope by smoking marijuana. If the Trump administration is fighting against that scenario, then I 100% agree that that is wrong. However, I just might think that their scope is illegal use of drugs, illegal drug dealing, etc.

95   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 17, 11:37am  

just any guy says

jazz music says

Do you have a point, or are you just trying to be difficult?

My point is that I can handle an anti-drug agenda because I don't do drugs, so I don't care. Do you have another topic, besides "oh no, Jeff Sessions might be tough on drug users", that makes you so butt-hurt that you feel Trump deserves to be investigated of anything and everything?

You perceive me as being difficult because I call bullshit.

How about asset forfeiture? How about cops being able to search your vehicle for any reason and then take it.

96   anonymous   2017 Jun 17, 12:13pm  

joeyjojojunior says

How about asset forfeiture? How about cops being able to search your vehicle for any reason and then take it.

What about it? Please provide evidence that he's pushing for something draconian here. I'm genuinely interested.

98   Shaman   2017 Jun 17, 1:51pm  

Considering that over 50,000 people died from opioid overdoses last year, I'd say it's time to get kinda ruthless with that sort of drug abuse! Especially since these are a lot of our nation's youth that are dying far too young. Heroin addiction is absolutely rampant, and can ensnare a youth with just one dose.
It's really not funny at all.

99   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 17, 1:52pm  

Quigley says

Considering that over 50,000 people died from opioid overdoses last year, I'd say it's time to get kinda ruthless with that sort of drug abuse! Especially since these are a lot of our nation's youth that are dying far too young. Heroin addiction is absolutely rampant, and can ensnare a youth with just one dose.

It's really not funny at all.

And you think throwing users in jail is the way to do it?

100   FortWayne   2017 Jun 17, 3:50pm  

I think publicly executing sellers is a way to do it.

joeyjojojunior says

Quigley says

Considering that over 50,000 people died from opioid overdoses last year, I'd say it's time to get kinda ruthless with that sort of drug abuse! Especially since these are a lot of our nation's youth that are dying far too young. Heroin addiction is absolutely rampant, and can ensnare a youth with just one dose.


It's really not funny at all.

And you think throwing users in jail is the way to do it?

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