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Strategist says

What's all the fuss about? I thought America was a free country.

Do you still believe in santa clause and the easter bunny also?

anonymous says

Call it Crazy says

The Libs/MSM needed a smoke screen to take the heat off of Hillary for a few days...

Who's to say it wasn't someone from within his own party and for what motive ?

CIC and the captain consider everything from hemorrhoids to sunspot flairs liberals plots. No thinking required that way.

Clearly, the man was once a boy, buggered by the Speaker, who went on to put himself in a position to be extorted. He then made millions (somehow) and paid millions to his underage victim(s). When the money got obvious, he tried to hide it in under 10k increments. He also said he was withdrawing so much money because he didn't trust the banking system, lying to the investigators.

Isn't America free? Indeed!

I say, I say... That boy is sharp as a Bowling Ball.
His BRAINS that IS!

anonymous says

Cap'n - if that was meant for me

NO I was quoting Longhorn Foghorn.
If you have to explain it, then you're trying to hard to be subtle.

justme says

Lying to a federal agent is a federal crime (apparently)

It's THE Federal Crime. When they can't get somebody on something, they go to Section 18 USC 1001. It's how they got Martha Stewart, because she actually took a loss on her alleged "Insider Trading" - but she did try to mislead (and did misremember, honestly I believe) Federal Agents.

Rule #1 : Shut up. When encountering Federal Officials, you'll get back with them after you have legal counsel. Even if the questions aren't about your activities directly.

"For fuck's sake. It's Foghorn Leghorn, you pot-addled meathead. Is that too subtle for ya? You manage to fuck up everything. You can't even represent the cartoon characters of your childhood."

Pot shaming!

Call it Crazy says

A Republican who gets "caught" in such a thing, even if it dates long before he or she was in office and is purely-consensual and adult in nature is utterly screwed but when it's a Democrat it literally doesn't matter what the offense is. I point directly at Bill Clinton who was not only accused of he was caught repeatedly diddling various people and was accused of various acts of rape (Juanita Broderick anyone), never mind the more-recent allegations related to Bill Clinton and Epstein. Or shall we talk about Teddy Kennedy and Chappaquiddick for a minute and the fact that there was never any account rendered of exactly what happened that night?

I'm guessing you didn't get far enough in school to understand the not at all subtle difference between accused and indicted. BTW remind me where Bill diddled a minor boy he was in charge of. That does seem to be a republican speciality.

Call it Crazy says

The information we do have strongly implies that the "misconduct" has something to do with Hastert's life and activities before he became Speaker and is probably related to something long in his past.

The misconduct he was indicted for was violating banking laws in the current period. Did you not grasp this somehow? He was speaker of the house, he didn't know the laws?

Call it Crazy says

Bill and Hillary are not the only Democrats who seem to be immune to any sort of allegation of wrongdoing when it comes to the press

Are you saying bill and hillary weren't in the press about their fuckups? What planet were you living on since 1991? The billary twins have sold more news than anyone else in history.

Call it Crazy says

But beyond the fact that there's no reason to believe Hastert didn't earn the money he was withdrawing legally (and thus making it a crime to do whatever, whenever and however he wishes with it is outrageous on its face) the fact remains that this double-standard between Republicans and Democrats is something that nobody wants to take on -- yet we all should and in fact must insist that it dissolves.

Which democrat violated the banking secrecy act and got indicted that we didn't hear about? If hasteret earned the money or not is totally irrelevant. He wasn't withdrawing it legally, he was withdrawing in ways to avoid generating a fincen 112 (was 104) report which is a felony. If that should be a crime is totally irrelevant, it is a crime. He did it, he knew he was doing it, he got caught.

Hastert pissed a lot of people off. Someone found a way to pay him back. Same with spitzer.

Nice job grasping at straws, you are certainly an expert.

bob2356 says

I'm guessing you didn't get far enough in school to understand the not at all subtle difference between accused and indicted. BTW remind me where Bill diddled a minor boy he was in charge of. That does seem to be a republican speciality.

Yeah - no sexual deviants or cheaters in the Democrat party.

- Anthony Weiner
- Eliot Spitzer (total hypocrite as he prosecuted others who engaged in prostitution)
- David Wu
- Kwame Fitzpatrick
- John Edwards
- Bill Clinton
- David Paterson
- Antonio Villaraigosa
- Marc Dann
- Paul Morrison
- Gary Condit
- Tim Mahoney
- Neil Goldschmidt (underage)
- Jim McGreevey
- Mel Reynolds (underage)
- Brock Adams (rape)
- Barney Frank (partner conducting gay prostitution ring in his house)
- Gary Hart
- Gerry Studs (underage dudes)
- Fred Richmond (underage dudes)
- Gavin Newsom
- Sam Adams (affair with 18 year old dude)

socal2 says

bob2356 says

I'm guessing you didn't get far enough in school to understand the not at all subtle difference between accused and indicted. BTW remind me where Bill diddled a minor boy he was in charge of. That does seem to be a republican speciality.

Yeah - no sexual deviants or cheaters in the Democrat party.

Democrats are supposed to be immoral, they are not the party of family values telling everyone else how to live their lives.

bob2356 says

Democrats are supposed to be immoral, they are not the party of family values telling everyone else how to live their lives.

So it is better to vote/support a party that professes to have no morals as opposed to a party that occasionally fails to live up to their high moral standards?

damning evidence in my view... *

socal2 says

bob2356 says

Democrats are supposed to be immoral, they are not the party of family values telling everyone else how to live their lives.

So it is better to vote/support a party that professes to have no morals as opposed to a party that occasionally fails to live up to their high moral standards?

maybe it's just me...but i'd consider a grammatical posting error more egregious than this... *

sbh says

CaptainShuddup says

NO I was quoting Longhorn Foghorn.

For fuck's sake. It's Foghorn Leghorn, you pot-addled meathead. Is that too subtle for ya? You manage to fuck up everything. You can't even represent the cartoon characters of your childhood.

curious2 says

I can't help suspecting that one wrestler might have been the point person collecting for more than one.

Update: "FBI aware of multiple potential victims in Hastert case"

I won't even speculate how many potential victims might come out of the woodwork if Forthood ever gets enough money to make him worth extorting.

curious2 says

The current administration busted Eliot Spitzer for withdrawing $$$ in a way that the FBI suspected might indicate extortion or corruption.

And because he was the wrong guy at the right place at the right time. The last thing Wall St. wanted at the time was a snoopy, egotistical, fearless politician as Governor of NY.

The last time an egotistical NY Governor was in place during a credit crisis, he became dictator who assaulted property rightsPresident, and oversaw decades of prosperity and a 300%+ increase in the median standard of living ...

socal2 says

bob2356 says

Democrats are supposed to be immoral, they are not the party of family values telling everyone else how to live their lives.

So it is better to vote/support a party that professes to have no morals as opposed to a party that occasionally fails to live up to their high moral standards?

Why do conservatives always lack the humour gene?

thunderlips11 says

And because he was the wrong guy at the right place at the right time. The last thing Wall St. wanted at the time was a snoopy, egotistical, fearless politician as Governor of NY.

The last time an egotistical NY Governor was in place during a credit crisis, he became dictator who assaulted property rightsPresident, and oversaw decades of prosperity and a 300%+ increase in the median standard of living ...

Spitzer wasn't that guy, he was a self promoting sham. He had great success trying cases in the press. His record in court sucked. A couple real successes, but as civil court settlements not criminal prosecutions. Many "cases" were just press opportunities that never went anywhere. At least giuliani as a federal attorney kept his mouth shut until he had actual criminal prosecution results to brag about.

socal2 says

So it is better to vote/support a party that professes to have no morals as opposed to a party that occasionally fails to live up to their high moral standards?

The Republicans only TALK about values to sucker people who want to be suckered into voting for them.

Republican voters are attracted to these phony preachers, because they remind them of their own church's phony preacher, who likely is a pervert as well.

Feds confirm Hastert case has more than one victim
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Federal prosecutors for the first time have acknowledged another victim in the bombshell hush-money case against former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert.

Shortly after Hastert’s indictment in May, an unnamed source said federal investigators identified and interviewed at least one other alleged victim. That second victim’s statements were critical to corroborating allegations of past sexual misconduct, the source said.
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Hastert’s plea deal with the feds seemed to leave open the possibility that embarrassing details of sexual misconduct could spill out when Hastert is finally sentenced. U.S. District Judge Thomas M. Durkin agreed Thursday to postpone until April 8 what could be a dark day for Hastert; the postponement is the result of a series of ailments that put Hastert in the hospital in early November.
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U.S. Attorney Zachary Fardon’s office also released a statement in October that promised as part of the sentencing to “provide the court with relevant information about the defendant’s background and the charged offenses.”

"A federal law enforcement official has said that the person paid off was a former male student of Hastert’s who alleged that the former speaker sexually molested him years ago.
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Hastert is scheduled to be sentenced on April 27... The sentencing is likely to be an emotional affair. Another man leveling allegations of sexual misconduct against Hastert emerged last month, and prosecutors said he is mulling whether to testify at the sentencing hearing. Also expected to speak is a Montana woman who has said her brother, too, was abused by Hastert decades ago while he was a student manager on the wrestling team that Hastert coached.
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Hastert’s attorneys also provided extensive details about his failing health, writing that he “needs assistance getting out of bed, toileting, bathing, and dressing himself.”

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

During this time in DC, 'wrestling coach'

Why do you hate the Bar and Buggery move?

Jesus Christ. It never ceases to amaze me the extent of the anti-gay hypocrisy in the republican party. It's just like the Church. If they would just accept gay people, they wouldn't have to run around with fake lives. OTOH, maybe they like the spy lifestyle. I wonder what the republicans would have done if Clinton had done what Denny did instead of receiving a blow job from a completely legal aged intern.

Republican "Dennis Hastert accused of sexual abuse by at least 4
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For months, federal authorities have hinted at the motive behind the hush-money payments former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert has admitted to making: the sexual abuse of a teenage boy when Hastert was still a suburban high school teacher and wrestling coach.

But now, a Tribune investigation has uncovered new details of the case — at least four people have made what law enforcement sources say are credible allegations of sexual abuse against Hastert."

"Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert sexually abused at least four boys when he worked as a wrestling coach in Illinois decades ago, federal prosecutors said.

In documents released Friday, prosecutors detailed stunning allegations against the longest-running Republican speaker of the House.
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An additional one -- a fifth former student -- died years after the abuse, according to the document."

"Dennis Hastert, the once-powerful Republican lawmaker, reported to federal prison today to begin serving a 15-month sentence.
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At his sentencing hearing in April, Hastert admitted molesting boys and said he was "ashamed." U.S. District Judge Thomas Durkin called Hastert a "serial child molester."
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Hastert will be required to turn in his civilian clothes and wear prison garb. He will be allowed a radio (with headphones), five books and two decks of playing cards, but personal computers are not allowed, according to the inmate orientation guide."